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Rumor Squashed: Daniel Loehr On Paternity Leave, Not Fired

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited June 2016 in News & Features Discussion

imageRumor Squashed: Daniel Loehr On Paternity Leave, Not Fired

To anyone who might have heard a rumor that Black Desert Online Project Manager Daniel Loehr had been fired, please consider yourself disabused of the notion. We reached out to Daum EU's Rick van Beem about the rumor and were told that Daniel is a proud new father currently on paternity leave for a couple of months. While Daniel is away, an associate project manager has been appointed to keep things shipshape.

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  • UrncallerUrncaller Member UncommonPosts: 167
    Always good to see things like this cleared up.....people always so fast to rush to judgement.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    i thought only women would get "months" off work for maternity leave since, you know, they are the ones giving birth. Good to know it's equal opportunity lol.




  • CaeruleiCaerulei Member UncommonPosts: 33

    rojoArcueid said:

    i thought only women would get "months" off work for maternity leave since, you know, they are the ones giving birth. Good to know it's equal opportunity lol.



    Paternity leave is pretty standard in Western Europe.
  • winghaven1winghaven1 Member RarePosts: 745
    edited June 2016

    Caerulei said:



    rojoArcueid said:


    i thought only women would get "months" off work for maternity leave since, you know, they are the ones giving birth. Good to know it's equal opportunity lol.






    Paternity leave is pretty standard in Western Europe.



    In some countries it's enforced. It's paid of course. Family time is important.
  • Dreamo84Dreamo84 Member UncommonPosts: 3,713
    Sometimes it's also just a matter of what your employer offers as a benefit.

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  • bound4hadesbound4hades Member UncommonPosts: 83
    DMKano said:










    Doesn't exist in US - especially 2 months - that's extremely rare.
    That's not true. While it's certainly not the norm, it has been gaining traction over the years.
  • MyriaMyria Member UncommonPosts: 699
    MisterZebub said:
    Well grats to him for the new addition to his family. ... Oh wait that's something nice, not being a fan of BDO makes me a hater so I'm apparently not allowed to be nice. Uhm let's see ........ Ah! CURSES!! FOILED AGAIN!!!!! ... there that should do it.
    Might I suggest "And I would have gotten away with it, too, if not for his meddling kid!"?
  • winghaven1winghaven1 Member RarePosts: 745
    DMKano said:

    winghaven1 said:



    Caerulei said:





    rojoArcueid said:



    i thought only women would get "months" off work for maternity leave since, you know, they are the ones giving birth. Good to know it's equal opportunity lol.









    Paternity leave is pretty standard in Western Europe.






    In some countries it's enforced. It's paid of course. Family time is important.




    Doesn't exist in US - especially 2 months - that's extremely rare.

    Yes. A lot of things that are common in the EU (Daum is from the netherlands) is not always also common in the US. 
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    edited June 2016
    DMKano said:



    DMKano said:

















    Doesn't exist in US - especially 2 months - that's extremely rare.


    That's not true. While it's certainly not the norm, it has been gaining traction over the years.



    2 month paternity leave is not extremely rare in US?
    Its extremely rare and only the mother can do something like that.  Then again it all depends on the job and company you are working for.  The father doesn't get as much time maybe a week or two at best is the norm.  But having other people raise your own children is normal nowadays in US.  So spit out that baby and give it to daycare and get back to work.

    I better explain that before i get in trouble.  That seems to be the mentality from US.  That is not what I would desire for anyone.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • sedatedkarmasedatedkarma Member UncommonPosts: 181

    filmoret said:


    DMKano said:







    DMKano said:
























    Doesn't exist in US - especially 2 months - that's extremely rare.




    That's not true. While it's certainly not the norm, it has been gaining traction over the years.






    2 month paternity leave is not extremely rare in US?


    Its extremely rare and only the mother can do something like that.  Then again it all depends on the job and company you are working for.  The father doesn't get as much time maybe a week or two at best is the norm.  But having other people raise your own children is normal nowadays in US.  So spit out that baby and give it to daycare and get back to work.

    I better explain that before i get in trouble.  That seems to be the mentality from US.  That is not what I would desire for anyone.



    It absolutely is the mentality of the family court system in the US. Unfortunately I've heard too many sad stories about this as of recent. Daycare wins to family care because it keeps the economy moving.
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  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Canada gets paternal leave but the mother takes the first 17 weeks and the remaining 35 weeks can be split amongst both parents if they wish. Only get 55% of what you made last year but some employers have been known to top it up to 100%.

    Not many men take the option though.
  • Dagon13Dagon13 Member UncommonPosts: 566
    Can someone explain to me how a fired PM would have been relevant anyway?  Did people actually think the PM was fired because of game development/management issues?  Do people actually think a PM is calling the shots in any meaningful way?  
  • JinhJinh Member UncommonPosts: 12
    The very reason we have so many people from US in our company. All the vacation and leave time we have in Norway XD
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,955
    edited June 2016
    DMKano said:


    US is way - i mean WAY behind Europe as far as time off work goes. 

    The total time off in US is 10 days + 6 holidays - that is what the vast majority of people working in US get.

    It's pathetic.
    I'm so lucky to be working for a UK company. I have 5 weeks off not including holidays.

    They also have Paternity leave but can't remember how long they offer.
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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    edited June 2016
    So they made the Community Manager the temp Game Project Manager for the next few months ?

    That probably explains the shenanigans of this last week, lol...
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    They're actually a very small team, it seems.

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  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,503
    edited June 2016
    DMKano said:










    Doesn't exist in US - especially 2 months - that's extremely rare.
    That's not true. While it's certainly not the norm, it has been gaining traction over the years.
    Indeed.  Even the military gives time off to both fathers and mothers. Anyone that works in corporate America has heard of this if not had it implemented in their company.  Those that actually work in a corporation that is, and not just mis-represent themselves.

    References:

    Read

    or

    As stated, not uncommon.  Not mainstream but getting there.

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  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    edited June 2016
    They're actually a very small team, it seems.
    "Who needs dedicated support and technical team when you can hire bunch of slobs and let them talk nonsense on forums while morons spend thousands in your game thinking this the greatest game in the history of gaming?"

    Seems like Daum EU motto.

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