My first thought was they're writing drivers in Pascal now?
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Ok I guess I will link it because you don't believe me. Yes crossfire is being used on the 480's. But anything newer it is gone and not coming back. Why you think nvidia is shitting themselves trying to stop what AMD is about to do.
"PCI Express 3.0 lanes provide to up to 17.5 times higher bandwidth (15.754 GB/s for a ×16 slot) when compared to current external bridges (900 MB/s), rendering the use of a CrossFire bridge unnecessary. "
I do want to say this. The 480 isnt even a top end card. Its an entry level card. Which is why AMD is sitting back smiling and nvidia is running around acting crazy right now.
Ok I guess I will link it because you don't believe me. Yes crossfire is being used on the 480's. But anything newer it is gone and not coming back. Why you think nvidia is shitting themselves trying to stop what AMD is about to do.
"PCI Express 3.0 lanes provide to up to 17.5 times higher bandwidth (15.754 GB/s for a ×16 slot) when compared to current external bridges (900 MB/s), rendering the use of a CrossFire bridge unnecessary. "
Also that is not what that is saying. It is not saying Crossfire is no longer a thing it is saying the need to use a Crossfire BRIDGE is not necessary with PCI 3.0 They returned to a bridge-less era for multi-GPU functionality with their R9 290X The BRIDGE is not being used anymore as it is not required. Crossfire is and will be used.
What you think crossfire is? Its the bridge. Oh yes its probably the name of software they use for the connection and might remain the name of the updated software name. But the actual crossfire bridge is now obsolete. Not to mention that windows 10 is suppose to do the connecting now and the crossfire software shouldn't be necessary. Not sure how close that is to fruition but its coming.
Ok I guess I will link it because you don't believe me. Yes crossfire is being used on the 480's. But anything newer it is gone and not coming back. Why you think nvidia is shitting themselves trying to stop what AMD is about to do.
"PCI Express 3.0 lanes provide to up to 17.5 times higher bandwidth (15.754 GB/s for a ×16 slot) when compared to current external bridges (900 MB/s), rendering the use of a CrossFire bridge unnecessary. "
Crossfire as in multi-GPU technology from AMD isn't at all the same thing as the Crossfire bridge.
Yes, AMD did away with the bridge a long time ago.
No, AMD has not killed multi-GPU technology. In fact, they seem to be pushing it even harder than they have in the past since they don't have a top-tier card to compete with right now, and it's got potential to make a big leap forward with tech like DX12 Explicit Multi-Adapter.
nVidia is silently killing 3x and 4x multi-GPU, because it was used by hardly anyone - both consumers and developers. And they are killing SLI in their lower end cards - not because of any tech-related reason, but just because they want the people who are SLIing to buy more expensive cards.
But there's been no indication that either vendor is interested in killing off multi-GPU entirely.
Ok I guess I will link it because you don't believe me. Yes crossfire is being used on the 480's. But anything newer it is gone and not coming back. Why you think nvidia is shitting themselves trying to stop what AMD is about to do.
"PCI Express 3.0 lanes provide to up to 17.5 times higher bandwidth (15.754 GB/s for a ×16 slot) when compared to current external bridges (900 MB/s), rendering the use of a CrossFire bridge unnecessary. "
Also that is not what that is saying. It is not saying Crossfire is no longer a thing it is saying the need to use a Crossfire BRIDGE is not necessary with PCI 3.0 They returned to a bridge-less era for multi-GPU functionality with their R9 290X The BRIDGE is not being used anymore as it is not required. Crossfire is and will be used.
What you think crossfire is? Its the bridge. Oh yes its probably the name of software they use for the connection and might remain the name of the updated software name. But the actual crossfire bridge is now obsolete. Not to mention that windows 10 is suppose to do the connecting now and the crossfire software shouldn't be necessary. Not sure how close that is to fruition but its coming.
AMD is still calling it Crossfire. That is just the marketing name for their Multi GPU usage. We have all known about the piece of hardware not being required since the 290X yet it is still called Crossfire. This is all that Wiki link was talking about. It is still Crossfire it just does not need that stupid piece anymore.
It was named crossfire because of the bridge. Now the bridge is gone but they kept the name because of popularity. So when people are talking about crossfire its the new version and completely different then the old stuff. BTW that old stuff is only 6 months old. Since AMD only has 2 cards out right now that isn't using the crossfire bridge. This entire discussion was started because someone claimed knowledge of crossfire.
Fact is the new crossfire without using the bridge is 100% faster unlike the oldschool which was lucky to see a 50% increase.
Ok I guess I will link it because you don't believe me. Yes crossfire is being used on the 480's. But anything newer it is gone and not coming back. Why you think nvidia is shitting themselves trying to stop what AMD is about to do.
"PCI Express 3.0 lanes provide to up to 17.5 times higher bandwidth (15.754 GB/s for a ×16 slot) when compared to current external bridges (900 MB/s), rendering the use of a CrossFire bridge unnecessary. "
Also that is not what that is saying. It is not saying Crossfire is no longer a thing it is saying the need to use a Crossfire BRIDGE is not necessary with PCI 3.0 They returned to a bridge-less era for multi-GPU functionality with their R9 290X The BRIDGE is not being used anymore as it is not required. Crossfire is and will be used.
What you think crossfire is? Its the bridge. Oh yes its probably the name of software they use for the connection and might remain the name of the updated software name. But the actual crossfire bridge is now obsolete. Not to mention that windows 10 is suppose to do the connecting now and the crossfire software shouldn't be necessary. Not sure how close that is to fruition but its coming.
AMD is still calling it Crossfire. That is just the marketing name for their Multi GPU usage. We have all known about the piece of hardware not being required since the 290X yet it is still called Crossfire. This is all that Wiki link was talking about. It is still Crossfire it just does not need that stupid piece anymore.
It was named crossfire because of the bridge. Now the bridge is gone but they kept the name because of popularity. So when people are talking about crossfire its the new version and completely different then the old stuff. BTW that old stuff is only 6 months old. Since AMD only has 2 cards out right now that isn't using the crossfire bridge. This entire discussion was started because someone claimed knowledge of crossfire.
Fact is the new crossfire without using the bridge is 100% faster unlike the oldschool which was lucky to see a 50% increase.
Yes, you were very much wrong about Crossfire being gone - and you're delusional if you think 2xR9 is remotely close to Titan X Pascal in reality. They might get close under ideal conditions where XF actually works, and in 4K resolution - but that's not the reality gamers are facing.
The discussion started because you claimed you could outperform Titan X Pascal with XF and save 1000$. I wonder what card would actually get you that kind of performance at 1000$ less than a Titan X Pascal.
What cards did you have in mind?
If you're really informed, which I think we all know you're not - then you're simply a liar.
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http://videocardz.com/62766/first-gaming-benchmarks-of-nvidia-titan-x-are-here
Notice you can get 2 AMD R9's and beat the poop out of the titan x. And save 1000$.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_CrossFireX
"PCI Express 3.0 lanes provide to up to 17.5 times higher bandwidth (15.754 GB/s for a ×16 slot) when compared to current external bridges (900 MB/s), rendering the use of a CrossFire bridge unnecessary. "
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Yes, AMD did away with the bridge a long time ago.
No, AMD has not killed multi-GPU technology. In fact, they seem to be pushing it even harder than they have in the past since they don't have a top-tier card to compete with right now, and it's got potential to make a big leap forward with tech like DX12 Explicit Multi-Adapter.
nVidia is silently killing 3x and 4x multi-GPU, because it was used by hardly anyone - both consumers and developers. And they are killing SLI in their lower end cards - not because of any tech-related reason, but just because they want the people who are SLIing to buy more expensive cards.
But there's been no indication that either vendor is interested in killing off multi-GPU entirely.
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Fact is the new crossfire without using the bridge is 100% faster unlike the oldschool which was lucky to see a 50% increase.
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The discussion started because you claimed you could outperform Titan X Pascal with XF and save 1000$. I wonder what card would actually get you that kind of performance at 1000$ less than a Titan X Pascal.
What cards did you have in mind?
If you're really informed, which I think we all know you're not - then you're simply a liar.
Take your pick.
For that, there are dedicated, specialized devices that do it much better, quite a reason why Nvidia over the years ditched computation support.
Now when I think about it, could it be that you mistake GeForce(Titan) with Tesla...?