Review in Progress, Part 1

SBFord · August 2016

Review in Progress, Part 1

With the recent Update of Shroud of the Avatar also the final wipe was conducted. From now on, everything the players are achieving in the game will persist. This is the perfect time for us to dip our toes into the game and share our first impressions with you and more will follow in the next weeks.According to the developers, despite the final wipe, Shroud of the Avatar is far from being released but then again, you can buy the game and your progress persists.

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Mikeha · August 2016

I watched RipperX's play through. The game looks good to me.

Spiider · August 2016

You are beeing too nice. This is a game 10 years too late. And even 10 years ago it would have been just another mmo without any innovation.

Slapshot1188 · August 2016

Don't know if I agree or not as I haven't loaded the game in a long time. I do appreciate a critical view though. We need more skepticism and less hope and potential in our reviews.

Thanks

Sovrath · August 2016

I've actually enjoyed my small bit in the game. Hadn't really been in the game for about a year (like the writer of the article) but played the starter area and had fun exploring. I think some players would have just left that area to go on to the game world but I was happy to discover a sort of hidden cave with zombies as well as some usable items in the houses that dot the area.

I think Pantheon will be more my speed but I'm enjoying the old school feel of the game. It is "clunky" in that one can start running and your character will slide a bit until the running animation begins.

Additionally, not showing any weapons/shield on your character only to pull them out of thin air is a bit sloppy. I hope they fix this.

Lheiah · August 2016

Probably will give it a go when two things happen:
1) Garriot sales it.
2) They remove the card combat simulator.

Figure both will happen about the same time.

unbeatin · August 2016

Check out Shards Online, thats where UO 2 is.

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postlarval · August 2016

Seems like a fair review. Of course you'll get roasted by the blithering, rabid, Garriott groupies, but fair just the same.

Slapshot1188 · August 2016

I've got a Shards acct too. Haven't played that once since I ganked Supreem during his live kickstart stream.

Love the concept so I'll check it out again at some point. Right now too busy with Grim Dawn

Slapshot1188 · August 2016

postlarval said:

Seems like a fair review. Of course you'll get roasted by the blithering, rabid, Garriott groupies, but fair just the same.

I'm a fan of Garriott and a backer of the game. Why would anyone complain about this review?

It is what it is. Maybe fun and maybe not. The only way we are going to get better product is by having honestly critical reviews.

Personally I have had enough of "reviews" that talk about how things could "potentially" be in the future. That's not a review that's a preview.

LeFantome · August 2016

Why would you make a review on an unfinish game? Are you going to review the next Ford Mustang 2020? Of course not.. you're going to wait for release..

That being said, the game as we know it , right now..is outdated. In every way.

Slapshot1188 · August 2016

black777 said:

Why would you make a review on an unfinish game? Are you going to review the next Ford Mustang 2020? Of course not.. you're going to wait for release..

Because they are charging for the game and will not wipe progress. That's released no matter how someone wants to wordsmith it.

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Iselin · August 2016

That glyph deck system has the smell of "different just to be different."

Thoemse · August 2016

I am a KS backer and checked it out last week. Yep it is as bad as the OP writes about. Sad but true.

Rawyn · August 2016

nice review u hit it out of the park. the game is just bad bad bad. gotta wonder who ok'd that piece of crap combat system to begin with? man brutal but honest review keep up the good work

Ozmodan · August 2016

"Shroud of the Avatar is far from being released but then again, you can buy the game and your progress persists"

If you can purchase it and progress persists that is "released" to most of your readers. Why not just call it what it is and stop echoing developer gibberish.

I have not played this in a while. Might go back and try it again sometime in the future. It definitely was not anything like UO though. Like someone said, having too much fun playing Grim Dawn at the moment.

Aron_Swordmaster · August 2016

One thing this review doesn't touch upon is the horrendous funding model which not only locks off huge swathes of items in multiplayer behind $1000 plus Add On Store charges, but that the Dev's have since admitted the remaining Whales aren't bring in enough fundraising from the store alone, so now they've added a Premium P2W currency on top of the purchase price and the Add Ons as well.

As a consequence it will be a miracle if they ever get to Episode 2, let alone the 5 promised in the Kickstarter rewards. Unless they get a huge swathe of new players who actually stay and spend, the game even if massively polished from where it is, just isn't going to ever be finished. Remember it's already 2 years behind the projected launch date.

And it's such a heart breaking shame to see the clunky, greedy, complete mess of avarice and bad programming that has driven the game into at best mediocrity, and at worst a complete offence against the personal histories and beliefs of true Ultima fans. Maybe, MAYBE in time it'll turn around, but you'd be a fool to buy in right now.

Sovrath · August 2016

Ozmodan said:

"Shroud of the Avatar is far from being released but then again, you can buy the game and your progress persists"

If you can purchase it and progress persists that is "released" to most of your readers. Why not just call it what it is and stop echoing developer gibberish.

I have not played this in a while. Might go back and try it again sometime in the future. It definitely was not anything like UO though. Like someone said, having too much fun playing Grim Dawn at the moment.

because mmorpg.com isn't the "voice of the gamer" standing up to the evil developers. They want to have developers give them keys, give them interviews, and they aren't going to want to work with that a site that tries to undermine them.

My thought is that they take the news, report it and it's up to the players to use their common sense when reading it.

oh sigh, I nearly laughed up my coffee when writing that sentence ...

Volgore · August 2016

Great review and for once telling it as it is.
I expected it the other way around and i'm glad that i was wrong.

To make this a successful game, Mr. Garriott would have to sacrifice his blood to the devil of gamehell -just selling it to the fans won't be enough here.

TheHiveLeader · August 2016

Sovrath said:

because mmorpg.com isn't the "voice of the gamer" standing up to the evil developers. They want to have developers give them keys, give them interviews, and they aren't going to want to work with that a site that tries to undermine them.

My thought is that they take the news, report it and it's up to the players to use their common sense when reading it.

oh sigh, I nearly laughed up my coffee when writing that sentence ...

**snicker**

Iselin · August 2016

TheHiveLeader said:

Sovrath said:

because mmorpg.com isn't the "voice of the gamer" standing up to the evil developers. They want to have developers give them keys, give them interviews, and they aren't going to want to work with that a site that tries to undermine them.

My thought is that they take the news, report it and it's up to the players to use their common sense when reading it.

oh sigh, I nearly laughed up my coffee when writing that sentence ...

**snicker**

I picture that as an evil snicker.

Redsalt · August 2016

"There is a certain “clunkyness” that runs like a common thread through several aspects of the game."

Agree with this statement. I played it a while back and that was the first word that came to my mind. The combat needed work, as well as the mentioned ui issues.

postlarval · August 2016

Slapshot1188 said:

postlarval said:

Seems like a fair review. Of course you'll get roasted by the blithering, rabid, Garriott groupies, but fair just the same.

I'm a fan of Garriott and a backer of the game. Why would anyone complain about this review?

You don't know SotA Garriott groupies...

https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/mmorpg-sota-review-in-progress-part-1.57983/

First response in the thread:

Review?
Tells me the Author didn't do his Job.

I rest my case.

MarkusRohringer · August 2016

Ozmodan said:

"Shroud of the Avatar is far from being released but then again, you can buy the game and your progress persists"

If you can purchase it and progress persists that is "released" to most of your readers. Why not just call it what it is and stop echoing developer gibberish.

I have not played this in a while. Might go back and try it again sometime in the future. It definitely was not anything like UO though. Like someone said, having too much fun playing Grim Dawn at the moment.

Why are you deliberately leaving out parts of the quote? The original quote says: "We are well aware that according to the developers, despite the final wipe, Shroud of the Avatar is far from being officially released." And that is a fact. The developers did not give it an official "released" tag. They are even actively stating how it is not released. But the fact alone that we are doing the review, besides that it's also explained in the article why we are doing it, should make it pretty clear that these tags nowadays don't mean too much anymore.

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