I have not "made any friends" in MMOs. I've made a lot of acquaintances (people I knew in-game only), but no one I met IRL. City of Heroes was probably the closest with WoW a close second, where I had outside of game contact through e-mails and message boards, but nothing more deep then that.
I have not "made any friends" in MMOs. I've made a lot of acquaintances (people I knew in-game only), but no one I met IRL. City of Heroes was probably the closest with WoW a close second, where I had outside of game contact through e-mails and message boards, but nothing more deep then that.
I had to reread the OP and replies a few times, but I think he meant people you "hang out" with virtually, online. It wasn't altogether clear. I haven't intentionally met or made in-life, real friendships with people from the game I play outside of the context of the game, other than briefly shaking hands with and interviewing the creative director at a trade conference.
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Hmm, I would have to say US Navy Fighters '97. I still talk to a couple of the guys I flew with in that game. As far as true PvP games, then Tribes, where I met over a hundred players and actually RL met about 30 of them. A few of them were friends from USNF, and some followed me to Planetside, where I met even more players!
But the game where I made lots of good friends that I talked to for years, and still talk to a few of them, definitely City of Heroes.
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I have not "made any friends" in MMOs. I've made a lot of acquaintances (people I knew in-game only), but no one I met IRL. City of Heroes was probably the closest with WoW a close second, where I had outside of game contact through e-mails and message boards, but nothing more deep then that.
It's a good distinction and one that some people blur.
for me, when I say I've met friends I actually mean "people I've met in real life/we e-mail each other/follow the facebook pages, etc"
But you are correct for pointing out the distinction as some people think that if they get along with someone online that automatically they are "friends".
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I have not "made any friends" in MMOs. I've made a lot of acquaintances (people I knew in-game only), but no one I met IRL. City of Heroes was probably the closest with WoW a close second, where I had outside of game contact through e-mails and message boards, but nothing more deep then that.
I agree that the term friends is overused these days.
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None, my definition of friend seems to be tighter than most people. Part of it is my personality and part of it is probably a reaction to attending ten schools in five states over twelve grades. Why make friends when you probably wont see them in a couple of years?
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First was Everquest. I played in what was the mad rush to 50, where meditating meant sitting with your spellbook opened listening for those dreaded giant stomps in the Karanas. Being friends and trusting people back then was a matter of in game survival.
There was something nice about logging in and getting almost instant tells about doing this or that because people knew me and knew I was a great cleric. I also knew great people, both great at their class and great to chat with, when those people popped up on LFG i was happy to toss them an invite to whatever it is I was planing or doing. The people you knew had worth and you had worth to them. I still hang out with 3 people I played Everquest with in 1999. I miss the sense of belogning more than the actual game itself. It is something only EVE online has ever manage to duplicate in me.
Secondly comes EVE Online. Constant danger, fear and possible betrayals make everybody you know (and trust) someone important. Played in Black Legion from founding to end and I can honestly say I would have followed them anywhere in game. Hell I am working on making jackets for a former corpmate right now.
The games where I had meaningful interactions with people seem to be the ones that encourage belonging to a group and not just to join a guild for daily bonus XP. Games that bring consequences to your actions (EVE) or that make grouping pleasant necessity (Everquest) really bring out a sense of community.
That must be why I really look forward to Pantheon. Not because of the mechanics or the "old school" difficulty but because it is my best hope for a game where being good and being a fun guy to be around will actually matter. Where I will care who I am with and actually want to group with the same people regularly.
None, my definition of friend seems to be tighter than most people. Part of it is my personality and part of it is probably a reaction to attending ten schools in five states over twelve grades. Why make friends when you probably wont see them in a couple of years?
Why not make a point to see them?
I'm still good friends with all my college friends and that was over 28 years ago. I go to see them and they come to see me.
If you find good people "stay in touch".
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None, my definition of friend seems to be tighter than most people. Part of it is my personality and part of it is probably a reaction to attending ten schools in five states over twelve grades. Why make friends when you probably wont see them in a couple of years?
Why not make a point to see them?
I'm still good friends with all my college friends and that was over 28 years ago. I go to see them and they come to see me.
If you find good people "stay in touch".
In order to answer that I would have to reveal more of my experiences and interpretations growing up than I want to put on the internet.
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I would say DAOC. I can say it started there. Then moved to WOW. Top pvp guild in both. Many wanted our friendship ;-D. But currently have friends in LOTRO and Blizzard Battle.Net. Since I do play alot of hearthstone and hots :-D
I have not "made any friends" in MMOs. I've made a lot of acquaintances (people I knew in-game only), but no one I met IRL. City of Heroes was probably the closest with WoW a close second, where I had outside of game contact through e-mails and message boards, but nothing more deep then that.
I had to reread the OP and replies a few times, but I think he meant people you "hang out" with virtually, online. It wasn't altogether clear. I haven't intentionally met or made in-life, real friendships with people from the game I play outside of the context of the game, other than briefly shaking hands with and interviewing the creative director at a trade conference.
True. Then again, much of society today considers Facebook "friends" as "real friends."
I have not "made any friends" in MMOs. I've made a lot of acquaintances (people I knew in-game only), but no one I met IRL. City of Heroes was probably the closest with WoW a close second, where I had outside of game contact through e-mails and message boards, but nothing more deep then that.
I agree that the term friends is overused these days.
So true. For me, "friend" is someone I call to help move or pick me up for car trouble, and vice versa. Online folks just don't fit in my definition.
That being said, everyone defines "friend" to suit them. Kids these days think their 50+ Facebook followers are "friends."
I think someone once said, "A friend is someone who shows up for your funeral."
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But the game where I made lots of good friends that I talked to for years, and still talk to a few of them, definitely City of Heroes.
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
for me, when I say I've met friends I actually mean "people I've met in real life/we e-mail each other/follow the facebook pages, etc"
But you are correct for pointing out the distinction as some people think that if they get along with someone online that automatically they are "friends".
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I agree that the term friends is overused these days.
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John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
First was Everquest. I played in what was the mad rush to 50, where meditating meant sitting with your spellbook opened listening for those dreaded giant stomps in the Karanas. Being friends and trusting people back then was a matter of in game survival.
There was something nice about logging in and getting almost instant tells about doing this or that because people knew me and knew I was a great cleric. I also knew great people, both great at their class and great to chat with, when those people popped up on LFG i was happy to toss them an invite to whatever it is I was planing or doing. The people you knew had worth and you had worth to them. I still hang out with 3 people I played Everquest with in 1999. I miss the sense of belogning more than the actual game itself. It is something only EVE online has ever manage to duplicate in me.
Secondly comes EVE Online. Constant danger, fear and possible betrayals make everybody you know (and trust) someone important. Played in Black Legion from founding to end and I can honestly say I would have followed them anywhere in game. Hell I am working on making jackets for a former corpmate right now.
The games where I had meaningful interactions with people seem to be the ones that encourage belonging to a group and not just to join a guild for daily bonus XP. Games that bring consequences to your actions (EVE) or that make grouping pleasant necessity (Everquest) really bring out a sense of community.
That must be why I really look forward to Pantheon. Not because of the mechanics or the "old school" difficulty but because it is my best hope for a game where being good and being a fun guy to be around will actually matter. Where I will care who I am with and actually want to group with the same people regularly.
Cheers,
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Nowadays i'm too old and grumpy to socialize and make friends in games.
At my age, you don't make friends but frown upon everyone the same.
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I'm still good friends with all my college friends and that was over 28 years ago. I go to see them and they come to see me.
If you find good people "stay in touch".
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That being said, everyone defines "friend" to suit them. Kids these days think their 50+ Facebook followers are "friends."
I think someone once said, "A friend is someone who shows up for your funeral."
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