Brand new servers only available to new accounts sounds fine to me, so everyone can start in an even play field. Patch 3.0 sounds awesome, hope that these changes will give new life to Archeage, since most people agree (I assume) that Archeage is one of the finest mmo´s out there, that was mishandled by XLGames/Trion.
i don't see why this is supposed to give a "new life" to archeage. game is still awfully p2w and heavy rng-based which are why people stopped playing. New races won't make them return or do anything to game.
After the mess that was AA I've vowed never to support Trion again in the future. This update, especially the new servers, does sound interesting though. I just don't think I'd ever be willing to give Trion a second chance. Perhaps, just perhaps if CU or Crowfall aren't out by then I may consider jumping back in for a month or two just to get my money's worth out of my Founder's Pack.
Neverending circle eh?
You get fucked by developers and said:"never again", but as soon as new promises is on the horizon, you're back with wallet wide open.
The temptation to get "new shiny" always wins!
There has got to be a better way to make money on this game and attract a larger playerbase than the method they are using right now. This game could have been huge, the alpha was such a success. Someone at XL or Trion needs to go back to business school.
Now Playing: Bless / Summoners War Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
The mistakes they made before, they will make again.
Trion is just one of the publishers of the game. It is not their game and they do not set the monetization methods. XL Games does. People need to stop with blaming one of 6 publishers for a game none of them own or control.
Trion is guilty by association , they knew exactly what the monetization methods of XL games were , When they climbed in the bed of a Ho, You lay down with a HO and you are just another HO...
They bought into , support and encourage this approach , so yes they are to blame as equally as XL
Accept they aren't
Trion has fought hard to improve the monetization method since release and has done a great job in turning ArcheAge into a far better game here in the West. Just as the Lager Network Publisher has done in other regions. Or Mail.Ru in the Russian Region. All of this is very well documented and covered over and over again yet sheeple continue to parrot the same thing over and over again even though the facts are clearly available and are ignored.
FAr better than what Blue ... its still a terrible P2W tragedy , so Trion as given us a turd that doesnt smell quite as bad as a russian turd.. BFD .. i say ... All of there terrible decisions are also well documented and still the schillples still parrot the same thing over and over even tho the facts are clearly avaible and ignored .. ... See how that works
You obviously have not played ArcheAge in awhile. So you are basing your assumptions on the current state of the game on past experiences. Are there still issues? Yes. Yet even WOW has P2W elements don't they?
umm have played and have 2 max levels , as nearlyy as hmm 4 months ago , and Wow has nothing like the P2W that Trion has in its Cash shop bad comaparison Blue
Then you know that ArcheAge is a world better than it was just a year ago in the way it is monetized and a universe better than it was after launch. So that proves that Trion has helped improve the game. Point made.
So since that one is put to bed...I consider what WOW has done to be worse. Why? Because they charge you a box price. Then they charge a sub. Then have a cash shop. Then they allowed tokens into the game which can be sold in game. Then allowed Champion's Honor to be sold so people can buy top tier PvP gear. To me all that is worse.
No pint made at all .. Not gonna argue back and forth its a matter of perspective .. from terrible to not so terrible isnt an improvement .. imo ...
AT max lvl the game is still who swipes the hardest wins ................./end
So it is all about the end game and not the journey now? ah I see. Well I have subbed for a couple of months and then did not again. Leveled 2 characters to cap and had a great time. Never felt the need to buy anything. So yeah, point made. You can have a great time in the game without paying to win it. Perspective
The entire game is built around the end game , the journey is ok here, but it is just a long drug out tutorial , The end game is all about whales and there guilds , And honestly if you didnt particapte in any of the end game , you basically skipped 70% of the game , you learn the other 30% on the journey ..
lol ok agree to disagree. Many many people are enjoying the game without paying out the rear to do so. It is not for you, fair enough.
He is mad because pople are enjoying the game , he thought it would crashed and burned by now.
Poor dodums.
It did crash and burn and has been on life support since 6 months after release. Just because you and a few friends are playing it does not mean it was some glowing success.
Really! Can you show me Trions finaces on this game, dont tell me what you think you know show Trions finances.
No more running your gob lets see your inside information you have?
If you cant go do one and stop running your mouth and guessing what you think you know from your experiance.
Game was fine, the publisher and monetizing tools were not. In other words, didn't even read, don't care.
Yet you posted in this thread.
Should I give you an "Awesome"?
I care I hate greedy publishers with shitty monetization systems ruining good games.
I don't care About whatever the greedy publishers continue to work on. Which is why the title is all I read. And the title happened to be very telling.
p.s. Forums are for posting and expressing thoughts, especially when it comes to pointing out at shady business.
Game was fine, the publisher and monetizing tools were not. In other words, didn't even read, don't care.
Yet you posted in this thread.
Should I give you an "Awesome"?
Do it. You won't.
See it yourself, Dad. I did it.
On topic: Saying this expansion is like new game maybe too exaggerating for me. I (this including me and myself) will see AA on a different perspective not when they add more contents (be it PVE or PVP), but when they revised their business model.
kthxbai.
When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
Unless it's doing something about the Pay 2 Win and the 100% worst feature ever / worst use of RNG in a game ever, then it's not a whole new game, its just a shit pile with some new flies buzzing around it.
I actually loved this game upto the point where the P2W became noticeable, after that it just left a sour taste, I really hopped they would sort out their well known issues, but I guess their to focused on getting the green backs in from their users to care about the broken mechanics.
Never could get land. I didnt enjoy the pve questing and the game is tab target combat. Other than that it wasnt bad. I still dont I would be able to get land and I wont try again.
The mistakes they made before, they will make again.
Trion is just one of the publishers of the game. It is not their game and they do not set the monetization methods. XL Games does. People need to stop with blaming one of 6 publishers for a game none of them own or control.
Trion is guilty by association , they knew exactly what the monetization methods of XL games were , When they climbed in the bed of a Ho, You lay down with a HO and you are just another HO...
They bought into , support and encourage this approach , so yes they are to blame as equally as XL
Accept they aren't
Trion has fought hard to improve the monetization method since release and has done a great job in turning ArcheAge into a far better game here in the West. Just as the Lager Network Publisher has done in other regions. Or Mail.Ru in the Russian Region. All of this is very well documented and covered over and over again yet sheeple continue to parrot the same thing over and over again even though the facts are clearly available and are ignored.
"Sheeple" are those who disagree with you.....yet you who keep blabbing this same nonsense are not "sheeple" for Trion? Does your uncle work there or something? Where is your proof of this? Show us these so called "facts". Let me guess....they told you so? rofl.
Where is my proof on what? That Trion has work hard to improve the monetization model for the Western audience? I have linked it two times in other threads. It is from Scott Hartsman himself in an interview on this very site
Also sheeple are those that just go along with what the masses say based off of hearsay or outdated assumptions. Not on current and personal experience. Many people disagree with me on many things on here and they are not sheeple. Yet this Trion thing is just a pile on
Scott Hartsman is a WELL DOCUMENTED AND COMMONLY KNOWN TO BE liar and a fraud. Point invalidated.
Fool me once...
I could care less about bots, PTW, lies and XL games - I left because of personal experience with TRION's greed and BS and will never spend another dime on anything they touch. They are scum in my book.
Clean servers = new way to fleece whales who want to re-whale against new players and people dense enough to think it's going to be a "fair start". Good luck with that one.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
Scott Hartsman is a WELL DOCUMENTED AND COMMONLY KNOWN TO BE liar and a fraud. Point invalidated.
Fool me once...
Wow that is a pretty malicious thing to accuse someone of that you do not know. You have links to those commonly said lies?
I bought in to Alpha as soon as you could. I was along for the whole ride. Witnessed it all first hand.
Also so in regards to your other comment about us not knowing how MMOs work. I understand who develops and who publishes. I understand that Scott Hartsman, working for Trion Worlds, as well as Scapes, speaking on his behalf, sold me one thing and delivered another. I know exactly who my beef is with.
Brand new servers only available to new accounts sounds fine to me, so everyone can start in an even play field. Patch 3.0 sounds awesome, hope that these changes will give new life to Archeage, since most people agree (I assume) that Archeage is one of the finest mmo´s out there, that was mishandled by XLGames/Trion.
You are absolutely right. Thats why i think they have something up their sleeve, like lvl 50 boosters in cash shop, more p2w and you know.. stuff trion pulls.Anyway "Equal footing" is just a dream ,if someone buys 10++Apex he is already in the top 1% ,and theres a high chance you will never reach him.
You could play the carebear role, no pvp at all, but youll miss alot. And when you step out into wilds p2w players will rince you away
I've played for 1.5years 8h/day and im still not nearly as close as being competetive as top 5%
So ,yeah, its same if you start on old or new servers, trust me on that, if you dont swipe, your screwed either-way.
My advice is ,you have few hundred $ to burn, Archeage is your heaven, you can become a god in that game with money, and if you're poor, stick to the pve, housing, trading, and peace zones, you might have fun too, least for a time.
The mistakes they made before, they will make again.
Trion is just one of the publishers of the game. It is not their game and they do not set the monetization methods. XL Games does. People need to stop with blaming one of 6 publishers for a game none of them own or control.
Trion is guilty by association , they knew exactly what the monetization methods of XL games were , When they climbed in the bed of a Ho, You lay down with a HO and you are just another HO...
They bought into , support and encourage this approach , so yes they are to blame as equally as XL
Accept they aren't
Trion has fought hard to improve the monetization method since release and has done a great job in turning ArcheAge into a far better game here in the West. Just as the Lager Network Publisher has done in other regions. Or Mail.Ru in the Russian Region. All of this is very well documented and covered over and over again yet sheeple continue to parrot the same thing over and over again even though the facts are clearly available and are ignored.
FAr better than what Blue ... its still a terrible P2W tragedy , so Trion as given us a turd that doesnt smell quite as bad as a russian turd.. BFD .. i say ... All of there terrible decisions are also well documented and still the schillples still parrot the same thing over and over even tho the facts are clearly avaible and ignored .. ... See how that works
You obviously have not played ArcheAge in awhile. So you are basing your assumptions on the current state of the game on past experiences. Are there still issues? Yes. Yet even WOW has P2W elements don't they?
umm have played and have 2 max levels , as nearlyy as hmm 4 months ago , and Wow has nothing like the P2W that Trion has in its Cash shop bad comaparison Blue
Then you know that ArcheAge is a world better than it was just a year ago in the way it is monetized and a universe better than it was after launch. So that proves that Trion has helped improve the game. Point made.
So since that one is put to bed...I consider what WOW has done to be worse. Why? Because they charge you a box price. Then they charge a sub. Then have a cash shop. Then they allowed tokens into the game which can be sold in game. Then allowed Champion's Honor to be sold so people can buy top tier PvP gear. To me all that is worse.
No pint made at all .. Not gonna argue back and forth its a matter of perspective .. from terrible to not so terrible isnt an improvement .. imo ...
AT max lvl the game is still who swipes the hardest wins ................./end
So it is all about the end game and not the journey now? ah I see. Well I have subbed for a couple of months and then did not again. Leveled 2 characters to cap and had a great time. Never felt the need to buy anything. So yeah, point made. You can have a great time in the game without paying to win it. Perspective
The entire game is built around the end game , the journey is ok here, but it is just a long drug out tutorial , The end game is all about whales and there guilds , And honestly if you didnt particapte in any of the end game , you basically skipped 70% of the game , you learn the other 30% on the journey ..
lol ok agree to disagree. Many many people are enjoying the game without paying out the rear to do so. It is not for you, fair enough.
ill add this and ive said it before ... If Xl games let Trion open a sub-server with cosmetic shop only it would get flooded , bloated to the point of needing to add another quickly , the other servers would become ghost towns , some of them already are .. I know i tried to transfer off my dead server last year and the server i wanted to got to still wasnt accepting transfers .. sucked
XL/Trion will never wise-up to realise that.They want easy way out.
The mistakes they made before, they will make again.
Trion is just one of the publishers of the game. It is not their game and they do not set the monetization methods. XL Games does. People need to stop with blaming one of 6 publishers for a game none of them own or control.
Trion is guilty by association , they knew exactly what the monetization methods of XL games were , When they climbed in the bed of a Ho, You lay down with a HO and you are just another HO...
They bought into , support and encourage this approach , so yes they are to blame as equally as XL
Accept they aren't
Trion has fought hard to improve the monetization method since release and has done a great job in turning ArcheAge into a far better game here in the West. Just as the Lager Network Publisher has done in other regions. Or Mail.Ru in the Russian Region. All of this is very well documented and covered over and over again yet sheeple continue to parrot the same thing over and over again even though the facts are clearly available and are ignored.
FAr better than what Blue ... its still a terrible P2W tragedy , so Trion as given us a turd that doesnt smell quite as bad as a russian turd.. BFD .. i say ... All of there terrible decisions are also well documented and still the schillples still parrot the same thing over and over even tho the facts are clearly avaible and ignored .. ... See how that works
You obviously have not played ArcheAge in awhile. So you are basing your assumptions on the current state of the game on past experiences. Are there still issues? Yes. Yet even WOW has P2W elements don't they?
umm have played and have 2 max levels , as nearlyy as hmm 4 months ago , and Wow has nothing like the P2W that Trion has in its Cash shop bad comaparison Blue
Then you know that ArcheAge is a world better than it was just a year ago in the way it is monetized and a universe better than it was after launch. So that proves that Trion has helped improve the game. Point made.
So since that one is put to bed...I consider what WOW has done to be worse. Why? Because they charge you a box price. Then they charge a sub. Then have a cash shop. Then they allowed tokens into the game which can be sold in game. Then allowed Champion's Honor to be sold so people can buy top tier PvP gear. To me all that is worse.
No pint made at all .. Not gonna argue back and forth its a matter of perspective .. from terrible to not so terrible isnt an improvement .. imo ...
AT max lvl the game is still who swipes the hardest wins ................./end
So it is all about the end game and not the journey now? ah I see. Well I have subbed for a couple of months and then did not again. Leveled 2 characters to cap and had a great time. Never felt the need to buy anything. So yeah, point made. You can have a great time in the game without paying to win it. Perspective
The entire game is built around the end game , the journey is ok here, but it is just a long drug out tutorial , The end game is all about whales and there guilds , And honestly if you didnt particapte in any of the end game , you basically skipped 70% of the game , you learn the other 30% on the journey ..
lol ok agree to disagree. Many many people are enjoying the game without paying out the rear to do so. It is not for you, fair enough.
"Many Many people are enjoying the game" LOL @ that, i have archeage installed and i can say with certainty all EU servers are dead, 1 in the process of dying, and NA with Kyrios is the only one actually being a server worthy of mention, with maybe 1 more half-empty ,like in EU.
So , stahp lying. I dont say you cant play the game with 50 people on 100 square mile map, but its sure is underpopulated.
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i don't see why this is supposed to give a "new life" to archeage. game is still awfully p2w and heavy rng-based which are why people stopped playing. New races won't make them return or do anything to game.
Neverending circle eh?
You get fucked by developers and said:"never again", but as soon as new promises is on the horizon, you're back with wallet wide open.
The temptation to get "new shiny" always wins!
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
Should I give you an "Awesome"?
When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
Really! Can you show me Trions finaces on this game, dont tell me what you think you know show Trions finances.
No more running your gob lets see your inside information you have?
If you cant go do one and stop running your mouth and guessing what you think you know from your experiance.
I hate greedy publishers with shitty monetization systems ruining good games.
I don't care
About whatever the greedy publishers continue to work on. Which is why the title is all I read. And the title happened to be very telling.
p.s. Forums are for posting and expressing thoughts, especially when it comes to pointing out at shady business.
On topic:
Saying this expansion is like new game maybe too exaggerating for me. I (this including me and myself) will see AA on a different perspective not when they add more contents (be it PVE or PVP), but when they revised their business model.
kthxbai.
When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
I actually loved this game upto the point where the P2W became noticeable, after that it just left a sour taste, I really hopped they would sort out their well known issues, but I guess their to focused on getting the green backs in from their users to care about the broken mechanics.
Okay.
Scott Hartsman is a WELL DOCUMENTED AND COMMONLY KNOWN TO BE liar and a fraud. Point invalidated. Fool me once...
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Also so in regards to your other comment about us not knowing how MMOs work. I understand who develops and who publishes. I understand that Scott Hartsman, working for Trion Worlds, as well as Scapes, speaking on his behalf, sold me one thing and delivered another. I know exactly who my beef is with.
You are absolutely right. Thats why i think they have something up their sleeve, like lvl 50 boosters in cash shop, more p2w and you know.. stuff trion pulls.Anyway "Equal footing" is just a dream ,if someone buys 10++Apex he is already in the top 1% ,and theres a high chance you will never reach him.
You could play the carebear role, no pvp at all, but youll miss alot. And when you step out into wilds p2w players will rince you away
I've played for 1.5years 8h/day and im still not nearly as close as being competetive as top 5%
So ,yeah, its same if you start on old or new servers, trust me on that, if you dont swipe, your screwed either-way. My advice is ,you have few hundred $ to burn, Archeage is your heaven, you can become a god in that game with money, and if you're poor, stick to the pve, housing, trading, and peace zones, you might have fun too, least for a time.
XL/Trion will never wise-up to realise that.They want easy way out.
"Many Many people are enjoying the game" LOL @ that, i have archeage installed and i can say with certainty all EU servers are dead, 1 in the process of dying, and NA with Kyrios is the only one actually being a server worthy of mention, with maybe 1 more half-empty ,like in EU.
So , stahp lying. I dont say you cant play the game with 50 people on 100 square mile map, but its sure is underpopulated.
not to derail but how did they break trove? I only played at launch and i think i gave them $20 or so.
Devilian is sure a mess, they never should have even licensed that game