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CIG - The Challenges Of Making Game Demos
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"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
People are entitled to their opinions. You don't have to like them. Therein lies the rub.
Saying that "I invite it", "I provoke" etc, just because I happened to write a series of blogs about a project that's evolved into a full blown scam, is the height of hypocrisy. And these guys do it to everyone. Including media, ALL forums etc. Right now - as I type this - they have TWO threads going on in /r/DS complaining that we're "saying bad stuff about Star Citizen" on the ED forums. I mean, seriously. Just because when they go there, they start their nonsense - then get promptly banned - they're salty because we get to talk about the game without insulting and/or attacking others there. That's the thing with bullies; they're always the first to cry foul.
And they simply can't move an inch into the fray without bringing me into it. Yet they wonder how it is that since July 2015 when I wrote that first blog, they've inexplicably tied me to Star Citizen forever. They claim I'm not important, inconsequential, a failed gamedev, I'm jealous etc - but yet still, wherever you go, they keep bringing me up, accusing others of being my alts etc. The irony is as hilarious as it is eye-opening.
Then, they have an entire hate-Red dedicated to harassing one single person, yet they wonder why others look at them funny, call them crazy harassers, stalkers etc. Because you know, all that's perfectly normal. Imagine if there was a Chris Roberts sub-Reddit which was of the same vein.
Here's the thing, this is all noise. My opinions remain as they were originally written. As I said in my latest blog from last week, Shattered Dreams, the project has evolved into a scam. There's no getting around that. And I describe (at the end) precisely what I mean by that. That's MY personal opinion and belief; and there is no changing it.
Finally, anyone who watched that "Road To CitizenCon" video and thought "yeah, this is great and these guys are really capable of shipping the games promised", should continue to fund them. Who are we to judge what people do with their money?
I come here once in awhile, to read, and leave. When GoogleAlerts pops up and the Usual Suspects are - again - trying to resolve their angst in my name, posts like this happen. Stop it.
That is all.
- DS
Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living.
If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.
Yeh fully agreed there, too much at once and SQ42 could have overtaken PG because that was already shown to some extent at GC.
I did not know who Derek Smart was until this Star Citizen cluster bomb.
Now I'm apart of Goons (don't know who they are really either) and DS is making special appearances in my SC memes.
Will this all be over before 2020? Stay tuned!
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recycling your scrum graphics ?
AGAIN ?!
Have fun
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Wheres the "Space Crafting" Why can't I have space housing where I can build my own station from harvested materials, and grow my own plants, food and water to trade with others, where is the eco system, why can my people not die from no oxygen if my station gets hit by a meteor?
I mean after all the game only has over 40 Million Dollars, its not going to really come up with nothing new or groundbreaking );....
October last year they show the morrow tour, as for January a few blockers and crucial systems were added to the game together with the mass surge in employees. I deduced that all systems were merge and it was all about adding content for SQ 42 missions..
But by the looks of it the tech was not integrated on SQ 42 and they seem to have not even one mission 100% complete.
So merging all that tech 2 weeks away from gamescon looks extremely, naive, a bad practice and it seems it was more a tech demo to show the potential of SQ 42 than actually part of SQ 42.
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Also, how was the Morrow tour a show of potential? There was no gameplay.
I miss demos
was the best part of buying gaming magazines
The CitizenCon one was the most glaring.
The worm was a scripted animation sequence (which you saw glitch as it replayed again). No AI.
The guys on the bikes are single entities in which there is a character mode on a bike that is scripted along a path. No AI.
The guys firing at the rover are scripted character entities firing with LoS only. No AI.
The guy shot on the destroyed ship scripted to walk a path (not the same as AI pathfinding) and play the death animation when killed. Notice how in the revised video they uploaded, that they added the rag doll based death animation.
None of that crap is ever coming to the game. And the terrain tech (a $20 million stretch goal) is still several versions away; and I don't expect to see it in 3.0.
Anyone who saw the GamesCom slides back in Aug, which touted 3.0 (with all these features) as coming by year end, and thought that was accurate, is a fool. And he did it again in Oct at CitizenCon. Notice how 2.6 isn't even in Evocati testing yet. But somehow, spending all that time on TWO CitizenCon demos was a good use of time and resources.
Like all other demos before it, these are all designed to "show progress" while stringing backers along, even as they continue to raise money in a desperate fight for survival; because not only is the money gone, and they're now M2M (anything less than $3m per month means they're operating at a loss. which is hilarious when you think about it) but they're clearly out of time. I mean he has now pushed Star Citizen all the way to the END of 2017 for crissakes! Which really means 2018 and beyond.
In fact, here is Ben Lesnick in a recent interview (20:29) claiming that they need these ship sales to continue raising money. For a game that Roberts claimed was already fully funded, and that if the funding stopped, they had money in reserves to finish the game. Clearly he lied.
Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living.
If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.
Such things NEVER happen during game presentations ! *** gasp ***
Pssstt ... let me tell you a secret .... even CIG says the worm was scripted. You are a bit late, but HEY ... so are your games ....
Have fun
Issue here is that, just like Roberts' Oct 2015 diatribe to myself and The Escapist, which he thought was a really good (hint: it wasn't; it hurt them more than it helped) idea, he thought that putting out this "Road To CitizenCon" video was somehow a good idea. It was purely damage control because they knew they had messed up. That's why this is the first time they've ever done that. All it shows is a project out of scope, a leader out of his depths and out of control, hard-working devs completely frazzled and frustrated, and a damaging look at why this project (as reported by sources, seen in the schedules etc) is a train-wreck that's completely out of control.
In the end, it did more harm than good.
Yet there are those touting it as "open development" (the new rubbish), even though there is nothing "open" about the development when in fact backers have to show outrage (e.g. the CitizenCon fiasco) in order to get a video like this which gives a glimpse into the clusterfrack that went into creating tech-demos designed only to raise money.
It's open development, but somehow backers have
i) no idea the current state of the project
ii) no idea how the money is being spent; though they were promised financial accountability right from the start. even as they continue to raising money and asking backers to believe that it's not being wasted
Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living.
If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.
Especially not in your case.
Have fun
Have fun
The whole point of making new things is to do it, not to make excuses and create a self fulfilling prophecy. It takes a leader to make an effort like that successful, and the interview really showed that Chris Roberts has what it takes.
Lots of confidence this will ship and be good.
Ambition is overall risky, if you play safe you just take the usual shortcuts to avoid push on tech, ends up cheaper and faster. So here is by trial and error pretty much, until they get it right.
Who says it impossible is who doesn't want to take the risks to make it happen.
If they don't do that, here's the people throwing rocks at them screaming "It's outdated!".
Hence why they continue pushing it.
Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living.
If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.