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Activision-Blizzard Stocks Soar in Quarter 3 2016 - MMORPG.com News

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited November 2016 in News & Features Discussion

imageActivision-Blizzard Stocks Soar in Quarter 3 2016 - MMORPG.com News

Activision-Blizzard has had a banner quarter with non-GAAP earnings per share up 145% over the same quarter in 2015 and 58% over 2015 in overall non-GAAP revenue. The non-GAAP earnings for Q3 2016 is $1.57B as compared to $990M in 2015.

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Long time Blizzard investor , i bought there Stock @ 8.00 long long ago , has been a very good investment
  • OzzallosOzzallos Runes of Magic CorrespondentMember UncommonPosts: 35
    Well damn. Bought this stock a while ago and it didn't move for the longest time. Finally got tired of it being dead weight on my portfolio and released it back into the wild. Ah well.
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,069
    20 million players in 4 months for Overwatch, with a box price of $59.99...Damn.
  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,141
    Forgrimm said:
    20 million players in 4 months for Overwatch, with a box price of $59.99...Damn.
    I remember reading posts from the free tard supporters about what a terrible idea it was to try and sell overwatch and how it should be free, and needs to be free or it would fail.  Because.........every other game like this is free.
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619

    goboygo said:


    Forgrimm said:

    20 million players in 4 months for Overwatch, with a box price of $59.99...Damn.


    I remember reading posts from the free tard supporters about what a terrible idea it was to try and sell overwatch and how it should be free, and needs to be free or it would fail.  Because.........every other game like this is free.



    The $60 box price keeps the hackers away. Free shooters are breeding grounds for hackers, get caught, just make a new account and start all over. Not many are willing to do that with a $60 price tag everytime they are caught.
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    edited November 2016
    42 millions monthly active players! Damn! That's the size of my country + the neighborhoods! [mod edit]
    Post edited by Vaross on

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    Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!

  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    OW is the best game in it s genre by a LONNNNGGGG!!!!!!! mile.
  • PemminPemmin Member UncommonPosts: 623
    nice to see MLG growing too
  • AsamofAsamof Member UncommonPosts: 824
    blizzard's been picking it up again after the ****show that was D3, SC2, and WoD
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,178
    There is always this joke that people make when people get emotional over the profits that Blizzard makes that "it's not like you're a stockholder". Looks like some of you actually are stockholders .  B)

  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited November 2016
    Clearly OW is doing well etc. etc.

    However what VentureBeat could have pointed out - which would have put the "impressive" rises they list - into perspective is that:

    If a big company buys another big company you would have to be doing something seriously wrong not to report excellent year on year growth and "record" quarterly numbers. Basically you are comparing two companies worth of numbers with only one.

    Prior to King being purchased there were worries that King was "stagnating". And worries that the $5.9 billion price tag (largely debt funded) was excessive. AB's earlier quarterly results this year did not dispel this idea, nor will this set of results as a result of this statement:

    "King’s monthly active users of 394 million were down slightly this quarter." (Have to read the actual results to see more e.g. King: Revenues slightly down Q/Q and Y/Y)
    Post edited by gervaise1 on
  • KahrekKahrek Member UncommonPosts: 68
    trust me, no stockholders read mmorpg.com
    I hold no stock in your opinion sir. All fresh out of stock. Portfolio is full of Gildan stock right now but not stock in your opinion. Maybe I should invest in some but that sounds like a bad deal :(
  • lerwenlerwen Member UncommonPosts: 34
    edited November 2016
    hmmm at 42 after hours    

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  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,772
    Definitely nice to see a company rewarded for making quality games and having good customer service.

    Maybe the smaller companies will get the hint, and we'll get less f2p p2w crap. Probably not, since it's actually very difficult to make quality games and have good customer service, but one can hope.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    42 million active players sounds GREAT!!! However, if we knock off that 20 million for OW, that's 22 million. HotS and Hearthstone have like 100 million users combined..... so I'd say there is a retention issue with those two properties. Especially considering there are 4 other properties which may have millions of users each. 

    Time to start throwing some money at their MOBA!!

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  • josko9josko9 Member RarePosts: 577
    edited November 2016
    Okay to translate that into the real picture:

    - Revenue in 2016 (so far) is 38.7% up compared to 2015.

    - However expenses are also 60.8% up compared to 2015.

    In the end that translates to smaller profit in the first 9 months than in 2015. And that's even with Overwatch releasing + Legion launching in Q3. Activision Blizzard can expect a pretty bad Q4 and much smaller profit than last year.

    So yeah these records are pretty pointless, when it's only half the truth. Activision Blizzard's liabilities are also up to 9.6 billion and will likely exceed 10 billion till the end of the year (more than 3 billion in just a year). I wonder how come nobody is noticing that Activision Blizzard's profit has been going down for a few years now. They literally threw everything this year, and are still going down in profits compared to the previous years. Those "unlimited" marketing campaigns are really starting to show.
  • KabulozoKabulozo Member RarePosts: 932
    60% expenses increase in a year? Was all this just Legion and overwatch development?
  • josko9josko9 Member RarePosts: 577
    edited November 2016

    Kabulozo said:

    60% expenses increase in a year? Was all this just Legion and overwatch development?



    Hard to say, they pretty much spent more on everything:

    - Marketing expenses nearly doubled (830mil - 86.5% increase)

    - Product development (673mil - 48.6% increase)

    - Distribution costs (620mil - 222.9% increase)

    - General and administrative costs (486mil - 63.6% increase)

    Etc.. They are already at 3.6 billion expenses in the first 9 months of 2016. Comparing that to the first 9 months of 2015 - 2.2 billion.
  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203

    josko9 said:



    Kabulozo said:


    60% expenses increase in a year? Was all this just Legion and overwatch development?






    Hard to say, they pretty much spent more on everything:



    - Marketing expenses nearly doubled (830mil - 86.5% increase)



    - Product development (673mil - 48.6% increase)



    - Distribution costs (620mil - 222.9% increase)



    - General and administrative costs (486mil - 63.6% increase)



    Etc..

    They are already at 3.6 billion expenses in the first 9 months of 2016. Comparing that to the first 9 months of 2015 - 2.2 billion.



    Sales and Marketing Expenses ! If you add something, at least do it correctly! Plus, this is for all 3 companies! Activision , Blizzard and King !

    Anyway , what it got my attention is that Blizzard is actually making more money then Activision ! Wasn't the other way around 2-3 years ago ?

    Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
    Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    goboygo said:
    I remember reading posts from the free tard supporters about what a terrible idea it was to try and sell overwatch and how it should be free, and needs to be free or it would fail.  Because.........every other game like this is free.
    It could just as well have failed, there was a lot of things that needed to be perfect for it to become this huge. It needed to be better than all the free games for one thing so it wasn't certainly a safe bet but rather risky. Risky bets do pay out more then safe bets though, when Blizzard started on Wow no-one thought it would be much larger tehn EQ either.

    And even Blizz don't always turn the risky projects into great successes, Heroes of the storm did not perform that good.

    But yeah, Overwatch did indeed perform better then anyone including Blizzard even dreamed about. Heck, if anyone say they guessed 20M copies sold in this time I wont believe them.

    Still, good games sell and the Overwatch team did an amazing job, anything with Blizz name sells some of the name and I think they would have sold 1-2M even if the game would have been terrible but this is beyond words. 
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    I figured Overwatch would do well for their numbers. That game's madly popular.

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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Am I the only person who doesn't like overwatch?
    I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Am I the only person who doesn't like overwatch?
    Nah. I haven't even tried it. That's mostly because shooters aren't my thing though, so it'd be a waste of money in all likelihood.

    If you do like FPS games however... then yes, you probably are. :pleased:

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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    IceAge said:

    josko9 said:
    Kabulozo said:
    60% expenses increase in a year? Was all this just Legion and overwatch development?
    Hard to say, they pretty much spent more on everything:
    - Marketing expenses nearly doubled (830mil - 86.5% increase)
    - Product development (673mil - 48.6% increase)
    - Distribution costs (620mil - 222.9% increase)
    - General and administrative costs (486mil - 63.6% increase)
    Etc..

    They are already at 3.6 billion expenses in the first 9 months of 2016. Comparing that to the first 9 months of 2015 - 2.2 billion.

    Sales and Marketing Expenses ! If you add something, at least do it correctly! Plus, this is for all 3 companies! Activision , Blizzard and King !
    Anyway , what it got my attention is that Blizzard is actually making more money then Activision ! Wasn't the other way around 2-3 years ago ?
    Has been for a while now - although it was narrowing (Destiny launch, WoW decline etc.).

    King also made more money than Activision as well - this was not a small purchase. And the addition of King is the agent of change in all the overall numbers. 

    As you say - and as I said above - these comparisons are between old Activision-Blizzard and the new Activision-Blizzard+King. Revenue numbers, user engagement numbers, cost numbers. And no surprise that in their results AB focused on the sales type numbers!

    And borrowing to fund the $5.9 billion purchase of King has increased "interest" costs. It is all structured though with some debt pushed out to the future of course.

    And reducing the debt going forward is what will matter. Will the extra revenue from King over time be more than the extra interest charges over time. Remember interest paid can be reduced by extending the loan hence its the long term picture that matters.

    Now if King's performs "as expected" - i.e. grows - going forward then price paid will look less expensive; if it shrinks the reverse is true. 
  • jbladderjbladder Member UncommonPosts: 36




    trust me, no stockholders read mmorpg.com



    Uh, I'm pretty sure Scorchien holds stock in the company. The dude never misses an opportunity to talk about it. If he's making that shit up, it's one convincing facade.



    Really?

    I am not saying he doesn't but really?

    How hard is it just to boldly make up lies and lay them on the internet like a nice warm blanket?

    Anyone can say anything, without material proof words are just air.


    I would be more interested to hear about HOW MUCH stock he has. 10 shares is good for fun and games but worth nothing. Now if the guys has 50 lots or something and got lucky enough to buy in low he does indeed have a winner winner here even then its meaningless other than to be a greedy bragging asshole. then again I would also want proof or feel compelled just to dismiss it as more internet lies manifested from a greedy need to be noticed all the time.
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