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Beta 3 within THREE weeks
bhug
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06.04.02
posted 30 March by Aradune in http://vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45826
"We've not let anyone in beta for several months now as we optimize and react to the feedback we've recieved on how to make our combat system and other spheres more compeling. Within the next 2-3 weeks, however, we will be bringing in thousands of people -- like 5-10k -- and I am bullish that the changes we have made, the more polished content, the additional density of content in Thestra that we needed ... "
Now, if the devs would smile more we users & soon to be beta testers will share the happines
estimated system req: Wxp, +128MB shader3 capable gpu, +2GHz Athlon, +3GHz Pentium, 2GB system ram, +20GB free hard drive, 56k dial-up, DX9c compatable sound card, (soon Agiea ppu, [implies preference for GF7900gtx, while x1900xtx is reported beter in gaming,]) pci express motherboard and sata hard drive(s.)
DX10 will not be avail till spring 2007 with vista retail. So Saga will have to stick with the DX9, and put off the UE3 and DX10 for their first or second expansion.
Comments
Do you think they want to exchange their current engine with UE3?
Their version of UE2 looks perfectly fine to me.
But the Beta 3 news are nice
Well Brad said Vanguard will be out late this year on MMORPG.COM podcast.
No annoying animated GIF here!
considering beta3 has already started
For the love of god
1) Beta 3 has NOT started
2) There are NO indications that the extra invites are a push towards beta 3 (As that would be announced on the official forums before anywhere else)
[quote=Brad]We've been making a lot of tweaks to combat, advancement, soloability, and also just made a major change over to fileplanet. We are also, like I have posted elsewhere, despite technically being in beta 2.5, relative to EQ 1 more like in beta 1. In other words, we have a lot of work to do and in many ways the game is raw[/quote]
This from a few days ago.
[quote]Originally posted by Droigan
[b]For the love of god
1) Beta 3 has NOT started
2) There are NO indications that the extra invites are a push towards beta 3 (As that would be announced on the official forums before anywhere else)
[quote=Brad]We've been making a lot of tweaks to combat, advancement, soloability, and also just made a major change over to fileplanet. We are also, like I have posted elsewhere, despite technically being in beta 2.5, relative to EQ 1 more like in beta 1. In other words, we have a lot of work to do and in many ways the game is raw[/quote]
This from a few days ago.[/b][/quote]
i understand what you are saying but brad has said that when beta 3 starts they will be inviting numbers like that. but yeah why do people keep saying beta 3 has started? it really doesn't matter if it has because they still haven't invited any more people.
i mean the difference between beta 2 and beta 3 is mainly the amount of people they have testing it, am i wrong? so it really makes no difference if it has or hasn't started, people haven't been invited and they have officially said beta3 hasn't started so I'm going to believe that it hasn't.
so yeah, considering they have only 100 people playing at peak periods (allegedly) I'm sure those people will get invited, but weather or not it is the beginning of beta 3 is yet to be seen, i think it is a good possibility that it is but nothing is for sure.
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
Put it this way
Beta 2 was started in december. Just recently (within last week or so) there was talk of entering beta 2.5 and now 2.5 having started.
2-2.5 takes 3 months and 2.5-3 only 2 weeks? no. Expect Beta 3 to come in after E3
Beta 3 is different in that it will most likely involve large scale testing of most of the game. So far, only one continent is in for live beta outside of dev testing. They have stated that they hopefully would have most of the continents up in beta 2, which they are not yet. Beta 3 will also be the longest testing period apparently. So expect a Q4 release at best.
i agree but like i said the numbers brad said will get invites in 2-3 weeks is about the same as what they said will be inviting to beta 3. and they said every beta phase they invite more people than the phase before it, alot more.
you could be right though, it certainly makes sense to me......maybe they are inviting these people in 2-3 weeks then inviting 4-5k more when beta3 starts? maybe they changed their mind with the amount of people they need for beta? who knows....
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
The only numbers they have released as hinting towards filling beta that I've seen are that "EQ 1 had 25k users, and Vanguard is bigger" hence, I guessing that 25k at least at some point in time will be invited.
Inviting more at Beta 3 will most certainly happen, but there is no saying that inviting more than their 4-5k currently in beta means that it is the Beta 3 push invite.
Don't get me wrong, be nice if it was. But really doubt it.
I'd prefer if they take their time anyways. They don't really have the luxury of releasing a "bad" game only to make it better 6 months after release. It needs to be a AAA title at launch in order to stick Sigil as a "good game company" name for future games such as their X-360 marvel mmorpg.
"(The) Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude." - George W Bush.
Oh. My. God.
Been checking email every morning now hoping to see that Beta invite.
~ Ancient Membership ~
hmmm i could have sword i read somewhere they gave a round about numbers at each phase that they will be inviting, oh well you are probably right. and again i agree i don't care how long it takes them as long as its a polished game at release...
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
hmmm i could have sword i read somewhere they gave a round about numbers at each phase that they will be inviting, oh well you are probably right. and again i agree i don't care how long it takes them as long as its a polished game at release...
No, they
never gave an indication on how many people will be per phase.
As droigan said, Beta 3 has not started and will not begin soon, Sigil will
tell us when.
Sigil is inviting more people to fill their continents, as far as we know
thestra is online, and maybe Qalia. Before entering beta 3 they need to have
the continents online, and im sure that they need a lot of people if they want
to test them.
Brad has said that during the last couple of months they haven't invited anyone.
Probably they are inviting the same number of people that they may have invited
during that period.
They are
inviting people to beta because they moved to a new phase, beta 2.5. Beta 2.5
is still not beta 3.
Beta 2.5 is closer to beta 3 than beta 2 was. But still is not beta 3, if
someone has a proof please share it.
Its no wonder the ammount of active players on a certain beta server doesnt go above 90 at primetime when there are thousands that are part of the said beta.
I trully hope the next phase is such an enormous improvement, because if not, this is not going anywhere.
All ur Mountain Dew is belong to me.
Beta 2.5 has been active for all of 1-2 weeks. So, the "hearsay" is mostly coming from the NDA violators such as the ones on the FoH forum, which go on and on about
"Bugs" (in beta, what a shocker).
It's 90 now?
At first it was 180
Then it was 100
Now it is 90
The one mistake Sigil has made in part of their Beta shedule is to lable them 2 and such, when they have said that it is in fact more like what EQ was in beta 1. People with little clue as to what is going on are going to make assumptions without taking into account that assumption is the mother of all f ups.
EVERY negative NDA violation that I have thus far seen has been rather bad. Not as in it makes the game look bad, but bad as in their critizism tend to be founded on things which are "duh" to encounter in a beta not progressed further than they have. The latest that stirred up a mess at the FoH boards was a joke.
It's progressing. But are they where they wish they would be? Not likely.
Fingers crossed and new system inbound!
Now I’m wondering if the Logitech G15 keyboard will be
allowed for use?
http://www.massivelyonlinegamer.com iTunes
06.04.04
"Make sure your computer system profile is uptodate (use your beta invite ID and password to login.)
Also in these earliest beta phases Sigil needed those with valid high-end systems to find core problems, hence why so many bogus system users in beta2.5 can not even log-in. Those with mid level systems (Athlon xp 3200 - A64 3800 or P4 2.4-3.0GHz; ) (R9800pro - x850 [no x300, x600, <pro x1300 ] or GF5800gt - 7600gt [no 5700, 6200, 7300;]) may stand a chance in the last short open phase beta4. The "DX9c compliant sound card" is a tricky one. Saga will really push in game sound, music and voice chat so the sound card vs mobo integrated sound will be seriously looked into over the next two beta phases.
DX9c is a sticking point since DX10 is supposed to be W64 (vista) only and as most know it has been pushed back early 2007 (ie. spring 2q07 latest.) So Saga is centering around DX9c and looking forward to pixel/vertex Shader 3 (AIW 2006, x1300 & GF6200 on type gpu.) But since MS is backing Saga look for the Wxp OS minimum requirement, they do NOT want w98.2 people playing instead incentive to finally pony up and buy Wxp ($130 ish.)" opinion
06.04.05
Sigil wants higher/est end computers so they can guage the extent taxing and demanding performance effects game play and users with max systems are more likely not be hampered by inability to help. It was mentioned that as the beta phases progress they will lower the system requirements to help stress the server with #s of users, and in retail they will have even lower system requirements (increasing the # of potential subscribers) than what was mandated in beta. But look forward to shader 2 (3 prefered) gpu and DX9c sound card.
And Saga looks like it will not retail till 4q06, with beta3 upcoming, the longest beta period; and beta2 has already been ongoing over 3 months... April + 4 = August unrealistically, and Oct-Nov likely for retail.
I would definately not buy a computer now. Wait till the game is almost ready to launch and then decide what to buy. I would at least wait for the new INTELs or AMDs they introduced during the CEBIT this year.
I'm sure looking at the Quad NVidias too.
I upgrade my computer every 6-12 months - usually end up giving my old comp to someone who needs it and buy a new one. Since there are a lot of tech junkies out there they sure will have their comps ready for this one.
06.07.09
We began Beta 0 Friends and Family testing with a very small group of people in August 2005.
In August 2005 we began Phase 1 of Beta, and as of October 2005 we have been in Phase 2 of beta. Phase 3 will start in July, 2006. We plan on having a total of 6 phases. Our general goals for our beta phases have been and are as follows:
Phase 0: Work out technical issues -- how do we get the code up there, testing issues, patching, etc. Basic infrastructure stuff. Then stability -- get the code at least stable enough that beta testers will not be overly frustrated. Start with a small portion of the world and slowly turn additional regions on over time.
Phase 1: Start testing gameplay. Begin with the basics, then move on to the systems that make Vanguard more unique. Also study how both world size and the world being seamless affects the game.
Phase 2: Continue testing, but with a lot more people. Focus on the mid to higher level game, as well as continue on with crafting, diplomacy, and the other more Vanguard-specific systems. End the phase by filling up the continent Thestra with testers such that critical mass in terms of population has been achieved.
Phase 3: Fill up both Thestra and Qalia. Continue to monitor how fast people are advancing, plus everything else that was in phase 1 and 2. This probably should be the longest phase. Test even more high level areas, but probably not the highest level areas, unless with specific, hand chosen focus groups. The primary focus, however, will be on finalizing levels 1-35.
Phase 4: Determine the target number of people in a single shard, preferably arriving with a number in between over populated and too sparsely populated. Add Kojan, completing the world. Finalize itemization, character advancemet rates, tweaks to Crafting, Harvesting & Diplomacy.
Phase 5: The shortest phase. Bring in a LOT of people (I think EQ had 25,000+). Have multiple shards online and make sure there are no issues there. Test billing, login, etc. Do everything we can to make sure nothing catastrophic happens when we turn on the game for real. Perhaps open some of the high end content briefly, but still being careful to keep mystery in the game.
paraphrased silkyvenom4.9
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Beta for Vanguard will likely be 5 phases, not 4 as originally planned
Source: Aradune Mithara May 3, 2006
Phase 3 will start in July 2006: Updated FAQ
I need to update that part -- I missed it when updating the FAQ recently. When we added a phase, it messed that part up. It will likely be that phase 3 & phase 4 together are the longest, whereas when we were going to have one less phase, 3 would have been the longest. Aradune Mithara
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"Yep, Jan-March" (2007) "is pretty close although no promises -- as always, we are comitted to launching when the game is ready and won't be rushed." retail
While we have internal target dates for all of our milestones, including launching the game, it's far too early to announce or publicly commit to a release date at this time. We are, however, anticipating release sometime in Winter 2006/2007. V:SoH faq 2.4
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beta info
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faq
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We will bring people in from our message boards and through some promotional methods. Additionally, starting in Beta 3, we will allow testers to bring in friends and even entire guilds in order to build community. V:SoH faq 2.3.3
NDA: For phases 0 thru 4, for sure. The NDA will probably be removed in beta phase 5 (V:SoH faq 2.3.4)