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Life's Distractions - Journey to Tamriel a Columns at MMORPG.com

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited November 2016 in News & Features Discussion

imageLife's Distractions - Journey to Tamriel a Columns at MMORPG.com

I’ve felt a little lost this weekend. I don’t know whether it’s my age, the fact my children occupy most of my time or that my tastes are simply changing, but many games I have are failing to capture my attention. Several times on Saturday I attempted to play Guild Wars 2 only to login, stare at my character, and wonder what it is that I could actually do that would hold my attention for more than five minutes.

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  • JaimlJaiml Member UncommonPosts: 130
    I hear ya

    In the last few years I have become a "game hopper." I seem to be much more interested in how the game works than the actual game. Once I learn the mechanics and understand how the world is built, ie itemazation, skill rotations, earning cash, see the regions and vistas... after that I get bored and move on. I have no desire to invest hours and hours to get anywhere. I just smell the flowers and then look for new ones.

    Is it me? I think so. Or maybe it is the current state of game design as you hint at.
  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503
    edited November 2016
    Atm just playing Mario games with the kids (dolphin emu, on the pc) switching with wife, she's just into gaming and likes zelda (twillight princess gc)

    Most of the time we play and they just say daddy, mommy go there, or lemme get that.

    Oldest son, does the mario jump all the time when we are outside and run like crazy and say I got the star daddy.

  • jonrd463jonrd463 Member UncommonPosts: 607
    Man, this article spoke directly to me, as I'm in the same boat. I haven't touched an MMO in over a year, and I'm trying to figure out if I should get back in. For the last, oh, two years or so, my gaming has been utterly consumed with a non MMO -- Kerbal Space Program. But now, I believe I've burned out on it and I'm facing a frustrating bit of gaming ennui. NOTHING seems to spark, draw, or hold my interest. One of the main reasons why I gave up on MMOs is that I don't really have time to commit to them. The last year or so that I played them, I was strictly solo, and that's not really a sustainable way to play.

    I've been an Elder Scrolls fan since the old school Daggerfall days, and while I have ESO, I didn't play much before all MMOs went off the table for me. Thinking of maybe getting back into it for a bit.

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  • samurai225samurai225 Member UncommonPosts: 51
    I can't play any MMO's anymore that can keep my attention for more than 5mins. My first MMO was EVE and that pretty much spoiled me in liking what it gives out with its one sever and player market. I play it once in awhile when its cheap but just can't afford the sub.

    Can't wait to try new EVE clone state and ESO.
  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
    I think jumping into ESO is a great choice. If you enjoy PvE questing with good strong stories, and a ton of content, you will have a great time. It is a very immersive game.

    With One Tamriel you can go anywhere, but I recommend finding a single zone with a good story and playing through that zone. One Tamriel is great because you can always play with your friends, but there is so much content in the game, if you get too spread out you can get a little lost.

    Since there is an Orsinium Event going on right now, I would recommend that. Great zone, great story, etc. If you haven't done so already, also focus on the main quest line, fighter's guild quest line, and mages guild quest line. Getting these done along with the zone you are working on will take some time and they all have good benefits.

  • KniknaxKniknax Member UncommonPosts: 576
    Started playing ESO about 6 months ago, and have been hooked since. I can't speak post-beta early days comparison, but what I play these reminds me of games like EQ2 - not that it plays like them so much, more the feeling I have when I log in, with a huge world to explore.
    Since the One Tamriel patch I have had a chance to leave my own factions area and explore freely, and am constantly amazed by the size and variety of the maps, and the sheer number of quests and places to explore.
    As I get higher level (I am 250CP now) I am discovering the myriad ways I can customise my character, and its become more and more addictive. I admit I mostly PVE, as I did in EQ2, but they have created a wonderfully deep world to get lost in (imho)

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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    I just got back to ESO myself and loving it!   I can quest and wander wherever I want.  Feels great. 
  • GiongaGionga Member CommonPosts: 1
    Just play Riders of Icarus. To tame the next companion, transform him in to pet or mount is motivation enough :)
  • MasoodVoonMasoodVoon Member UncommonPosts: 50
    Haha I thought you were in love with BDO? I would suggest you find 1 really good and active PVE guild, 2 active PVP guilds, and the rest whatever trade guilds as guild activity is key to enjoying this game (as long as you enjoy the questing/crafting systems).
  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908
    Community is key. Game hopping is a downward spiral in MMORPGs... The more you jump around, the less invested in the community of each game, which leads to less connection with the game, which leads to more game hopping. These games shine when played with others, but are kinda sucky as solo experiences in long bursts. They always have been.

    I don't game hop as much these days, though I do try other titles now and again just out of curiosity, because I realise that people are as important as anything else to the enjoyment in MMORPGs. There are a ton of games better suited to extended solo play, after all.

    Jumping into a bunch of games for 1-3 hours a week just to solo around the world before moving to the next game... The thought makes me shudder. I would just rather play Civ or whatever.
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    Vesavius said:
    Community is key. Game hopping is a downward spiral in MMORPGs... The more you jump around, the less invested in the community of each game, which leads to less connection with the game, which leads to more game hopping. These games shine when played with others, but are kinda sucky as solo experiences in long bursts. They always have been.

    I don't game hop as much these days, though I do try other titles now and again just out of curiosity, because I realise that people are as important as anything else to the enjoyment in MMORPGs. There are a ton of games better suited to extended solo play, after all.

    Jumping into a bunch of games for 1-3 hours a week just to solo around the world before moving to the next game... The thought makes me shudder. I would just rather play Civ or whatever.
    Depends on if you're in a multi-game guild. GSCH really helps each game feel like a home.

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  • mikunimanmikuniman Member UncommonPosts: 375
    edited November 2016
    Sorry to hear that. One of the reasons why I don't just devote myself to one game, not to say you do. BDO works the best for me when I'm home with rl things to do. I like the idea of getting some things done in game while doing chores at home. I can run my workers, cook, fish or even just auto path my chars for breath, strength, or horse training and just check in now and then.

    Best thing you don't get disconnected in BDO for being afk. Nothing bothers me more than some of my sub games booting me few min while afk when I pay for my game time. Wish more of my titles had these features.
  • AlomarAlomar Member RarePosts: 1,299
    edited November 2016
    A constant state of mmo flux that many other people find themselves in, myself included at times. As someone whose played ESO since one of the earliest beta tests to now, with very few and short breaks, it depends on your playstyle whether or not ESO will be good enough to become your new "home" mmo. Disclaimer, all of this is based off PC NA and not based on opinion, simply been there and seen it happen over time.

    Since you haven't played it before the whole new feeling and similarities to single player ES titles will be exciting for a while. Yet, eventually that wears off as ESO is a very different game in terms of being heavily instanced. The story is less linear with 1T sure, but it will make very little sense unless you pay close attention to it since you can hop around anywhere now, and such a key feature like factions are almost meaningless.

    It comes down to if your a casual pver'er or roleplayer there is a large chance you will thoroughly enjoy the game for quite some time. If you're a hardcore pve'er you will enjoy it for a bit, mainly since it's knew, after a while though a lack of appealing mechanics/systems/updates will become apparent for a hardcore player. If you're a hardcore pvper, seeing as you were playing GW2 you might be, the game's current pvp is the worst since launch with a few brief exceptions in minor areas.

    There's a reason the pvp community is so small and you can count hardcore guilds left per faction on one hand. If you're a casual pvp'er the current state of the game's pvp is easier/more casual oriented than it was 1-1.5 years ago. Yet, it still has a steep learning curve, broken mechanics, lag, imbalance, lack of content, and such a small community. I'd recommend starting with the non-vet pvp campaign, then the champion point free campaign, and then champion point campaigns at 300+. Unfortunately, really only one champion point campaign has a significant population left, due to issues stated above, but best of luck.
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  • mikunimanmikuniman Member UncommonPosts: 375

    Vesavius said:

    Community is key. Game hopping is a downward spiral in MMORPGs... The more you jump around, the less invested in the community of each game, which leads to less connection with the game, which leads to more game hopping. These games shine when played with others, but are kinda sucky as solo experiences in long bursts. They always have been.



    I don't game hop as much these days, though I do try other titles now and again just out of curiosity, because I realise that people are as important as anything else to the enjoyment in MMORPGs. There are a ton of games better suited to extended solo play, after all.



    Jumping into a bunch of games for 1-3 hours a week just to solo around the world before moving to the next game... The thought makes me shudder. I would just rather play Civ or whatever.



    The lure of guilds have faded for me because of that. I'm busy in rl my game time is valuable being a slave to one game and or one guild is out weighed by being able to come and go as I please. I enjoyed many years of Battlefield, Mech Warrior clans and my many WoW guilds but it was extremely time consuming, sometimes viral.

    Games run their course people move on, game friends fleeting. LFG, soloing or grabbing a rl friend now and then my game time feels much more entertaining if that makes any sense.
  • PersistentWorldPersistentWorld Member UncommonPosts: 26


    Haha I thought you were in love with BDO? I would suggest you find 1 really good and active PVE guild, 2 active PVP guilds, and the rest whatever trade guilds as guild activity is key to enjoying this game (as long as you enjoy the questing/crafting systems).



    The grind and pop-up has had its day with me.
  • KalebGraysonKalebGrayson Member RarePosts: 430
    edited November 2016
    I started ESO a few weeks ago.  Never played it before.  I definitely got that overwhelmed feeling at the start.  You know, they feeling you get when you start a new MMO, have no idea where to go, not familiar with game mechanics, no idea what gear to use, etc.  I'm REALLY enjoying it so far.  I'm level 12 as of last night.  I've gone through two smaller island areas (Stros M'kai and Betnikh) and seem to be in a larger area now called (Glenumbra).  I'm just wandering around, doing quests, exploring, and having a great time.  I'm positive my build is garbage.  I don't care.  I'm playing my Templar, only dying to these damn fish in deep water, and enjoying that brand new, new car smell from the game.  I'm not part of any guild.  All my gaming community is still addicted/playing WoW, and I chat with them in discord from time to time, but it's just me exploring and having a good time in ESO.  My only complaint is lack of bag space...lol, and that's not really a complaint.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    edited November 2016
    For who ever may be interested:
    The Elder Scrolls Online's Orsinium expansion arrived one year ago this month. To celebrate, Bethesda is launching a promotion where you can get the DLC for 75 percent off and enjoy double loot, among other bonuses.

    Originally launched on November 2, 2015, Orsinium added a new zone that boasts a reported 20 hours of story content, as well as new dungeons. The expansion normally sells for 3,000 Crowns ($25), but with the 75 percent off discount, you can get it for around $6.25. Orsinium is included with Elder Scrolls Online Plus membership, which goes for $15/month. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/elder-scrolls-online-orsinium-expansion-is-75-off-/1100-6445184/

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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,045
    Fired up ESO again for the Orsinium event. Wandered around a bit, did some quests. Was having a good time, I wondered why I stopped playing.

    Then I got into a random Heroic Dungeon group. They complained that my DPS was too low after the first boss and kicked me from the group.

    Oh, yeah, thats why I stopped playing. The horrible community.

    Uninstalled for good this time.
  • MasoodVoonMasoodVoon Member UncommonPosts: 50
    edited November 2016
    Xiaoki said:
    Fired up ESO again for the Orsinium event. Wandered around a bit, did some quests. Was having a good time, I wondered why I stopped playing.

    Then I got into a random Heroic Dungeon group. They complained that my DPS was too low after the first boss and kicked me from the group.

    Oh, yeah, thats why I stopped playing. The horrible community.

    Uninstalled for good this time.
    I actually had the opposite experience for most of the game. People willing to help out and group all the time. I rank this community up there with Eve and Rift as best I've played with and most mature but maybe  I was just lucky (played since beta on PC for a year and then came back a bit for Orsinium).

    When grouping I found there are three things:

    1) Join friendly PVE/PVP guilds for your timezone. This is probably intuitive but if you solo and/or don't join an active & large enough guild you will miss out in raids & fun PVP in Cyrodil.

    2) Learn about the PVE a little before hand so you don't upset people's expectations who invite you into the group. You don't have to be the best build but you should have a coherent playstyle that you can explain to the group leader as well as communicating your gear defiencies. Most leaders will give you a shot as long as you listen to them regardless of playstyle and equipment.

    3) Don't expect to faceroll PVP unless you have all the tricks and best build and cohesive and large groups. You should enjoy the little things in PVP such as good castle attacks/defenses, the PVP play in general, and teamwork. It's normal for one faction to have long runs at domination at certain hours at least so enjoy the small fights and don't get stressed out holding onto a small portion of the map at times. The map is large enough where you can find fun if one fight isn't getting anywhere. Joining multiple PVP guilds is worth it to get into one when the other isn't active (in my opinion).
  • SteveaxemanSteveaxeman Member UncommonPosts: 1
    You diffidently want to do the brotherhood dlc as soon as you can, the blade of woe is a lot of fun
  • aCi11i3saCi11i3s Member UncommonPosts: 54
    ESO is great for anyone that hasn't played it yet. But for those, like me, that invested crazy time in it and maxed out a character, there is simply nothing left to do other than repeat. Sad, cuz Tamriel is such a huge world that is only unlocked small bits at a time with subpar dlc's. WoW unfortunately is the only mmo atm that has tons to offer. Happy hunting
  • MikePaladinMikePaladin Member UncommonPosts: 592
    edited November 2016
    ESO is a decent mmo but recently EU server where I play were kinda low pop. especially Pvp ....I love to play as a heal in big scale battles but for last 3 day there were very little people ..[mod edit]
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  • GolelornGolelorn Member RarePosts: 1,395
    I've actually found solace in Mobile games now. They are just as shallow as MMOs, so I'm really not losing out on anything. ESO's combat is atrocious. I've tried multiple times to force myself to like it.

    I may try BDO one day. But I'm afraid its just like Archeage.
  • RogueJDRogueJD Member UncommonPosts: 32
    This article seems to have hit home with a lot of us, myself included.

    I find myself jumping around from game to game. Are our tastes just a little more refined? Is it that we're potentially a little "better off" than we were when we first started gaming, and can now afford any "AAA" title as soon as it comes out? Is it that the market is relatively saturated with quantity over quality?

    It truly is a downward spiral, as someone has mentioned before. As I distribute my time amongst more and more titles, I fall behind the curve in each.
  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908
    Vesavius said:
    Community is key. Game hopping is a downward spiral in MMORPGs... The more you jump around, the less invested in the community of each game, which leads to less connection with the game, which leads to more game hopping. These games shine when played with others, but are kinda sucky as solo experiences in long bursts. They always have been.

    I don't game hop as much these days, though I do try other titles now and again just out of curiosity, because I realise that people are as important as anything else to the enjoyment in MMORPGs. There are a ton of games better suited to extended solo play, after all.

    Jumping into a bunch of games for 1-3 hours a week just to solo around the world before moving to the next game... The thought makes me shudder. I would just rather play Civ or whatever.
    Depends on if you're in a multi-game guild. GSCH really helps each game feel like a home.

    Disagree. If a game felt like home, you won't be hopping. The illusion of 'home' isn't the same as the real thing.
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