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So you think you have experienced pvp and claim to be pvp'er but never actually tried darkfall?
Copperfield
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This topic / thread is open for debat for anyone who thinks they experienced it all ( pvp wise ) and having a hard time to enjoy a pvp game.
Before reading my post you need to be absolute 200% certain, you wanne leave behind all others, because if you played darkfall every other pvp mmo is bacisly VERY boring ( so be aware )
- forget about visuals and get used to the dark theme open world in darkfall.. after playing couple of days, you will notice the underground feeling of this mmorpg.
- free aim, yes there are some aoe spells.. but everything in this game you need to aim manually
- friendly fire, even people in your own clan take dmg
- server side projectiles calculations
- 500v500 battles.. pretty easy handled by server
- city building( static locations tho.. but this might change with housing only)
- open world, not 1 instance in this game
- shipbuilding
- housing in open world
- naval warfare
- player made clans/politics/alliance you name it everything is controlled by the players
- player controlled economics..( no central hub/ no auction house), you do have your own local vendor if you own a house
- full loot ofcourse
This is not a commercial/marketing post. This is a reach out to people who are fcking tired of all the same genertic pvp mmo's out here.
Darkfall aint a game for everyone thats 100% certain, but then again neither are all other games on the market.
What kinda mindset players do play this game you ask? since its very nichy? good question!!
- players who like a game that is focussed on pvp ( obvious ofcourse )
- players who are willing to improve themselves regarding skills( if you play csgo for example.. you will get better after more practise, this counts for darkfall aswell)
- players who rage? yes but also that do not give up easily
- players who enjoy playing in group/clan ( multy options availible, since some poeple enjoy playing it solo )
- a feeling of accomplishment.. yes this is correct place
- some play this game as a crafter/trader/pirate; tbh its a viable option.. but i dont have experience with it myself
Little personal information about myself:
I am a very heavy pvp player, i can enjoy pve games too in mmorpg but after max level in a normal mmo.. im done with it.(story follower basicly)
Games like csgo,battlerite sometimes planetside 2 i also play..( still doing bdo because of the story and visuals, this game is not for me regarding pvp FYI)
Tried alot of pvp mmorpg during the downtime of server of darkfall. Games like eso/gw2/blade and soul.. even swapped to other countries to play there..it simply didnt work out..
Now regarding the internet rep that darkfall has over the internet.. ahh yes ofcourse the statement GANKFEST is very common, because of the ffa pvp.. well all i can say its a pvp game afterall..there are many friendly players that actually raize you when they kill you, but there are also people who will finish you off for the loot..( these are simple facts you need to accept) but every mmo has this.
The game is currently on sales and its pretty cheap.....
I am willing to answer any questions you may have..
Darkfall was already a "complete game" in 2012. Currently BPG is giving it very much love to make the game more enjoyable and removing it flaws.
My name is David Copperfield, if you toss me a coin ill do a magic trick!?
Cu in agon!!
p.s. if i forgot something...(it might be possible) feel free to add comments.
edit: i forgot something.. if you made the decision to try out.. feel free to msg me either here or on the forums roa.
Before reading my post you need to be absolute 200% certain, you wanne leave behind all others, because if you played darkfall every other pvp mmo is bacisly VERY boring ( so be aware )
- forget about visuals and get used to the dark theme open world in darkfall.. after playing couple of days, you will notice the underground feeling of this mmorpg.
- free aim, yes there are some aoe spells.. but everything in this game you need to aim manually
- friendly fire, even people in your own clan take dmg
- server side projectiles calculations
- 500v500 battles.. pretty easy handled by server
- city building( static locations tho.. but this might change with housing only)
- open world, not 1 instance in this game
- shipbuilding
- housing in open world
- naval warfare
- player made clans/politics/alliance you name it everything is controlled by the players
- player controlled economics..( no central hub/ no auction house), you do have your own local vendor if you own a house
- full loot ofcourse
This is not a commercial/marketing post. This is a reach out to people who are fcking tired of all the same genertic pvp mmo's out here.
Darkfall aint a game for everyone thats 100% certain, but then again neither are all other games on the market.
What kinda mindset players do play this game you ask? since its very nichy? good question!!
- players who like a game that is focussed on pvp ( obvious ofcourse )
- players who are willing to improve themselves regarding skills( if you play csgo for example.. you will get better after more practise, this counts for darkfall aswell)
- players who rage? yes but also that do not give up easily
- players who enjoy playing in group/clan ( multy options availible, since some poeple enjoy playing it solo )
- a feeling of accomplishment.. yes this is correct place
- some play this game as a crafter/trader/pirate; tbh its a viable option.. but i dont have experience with it myself
Little personal information about myself:
I am a very heavy pvp player, i can enjoy pve games too in mmorpg but after max level in a normal mmo.. im done with it.(story follower basicly)
Games like csgo,battlerite sometimes planetside 2 i also play..( still doing bdo because of the story and visuals, this game is not for me regarding pvp FYI)
Tried alot of pvp mmorpg during the downtime of server of darkfall. Games like eso/gw2/blade and soul.. even swapped to other countries to play there..it simply didnt work out..
Now regarding the internet rep that darkfall has over the internet.. ahh yes ofcourse the statement GANKFEST is very common, because of the ffa pvp.. well all i can say its a pvp game afterall..there are many friendly players that actually raize you when they kill you, but there are also people who will finish you off for the loot..( these are simple facts you need to accept) but every mmo has this.
The game is currently on sales and its pretty cheap.....
I am willing to answer any questions you may have..
Darkfall was already a "complete game" in 2012. Currently BPG is giving it very much love to make the game more enjoyable and removing it flaws.
My name is David Copperfield, if you toss me a coin ill do a magic trick!?
Cu in agon!!
p.s. if i forgot something...(it might be possible) feel free to add comments.
edit: i forgot something.. if you made the decision to try out.. feel free to msg me either here or on the forums roa.
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Real PvP'ers don't take MMORPG's seriously. Play league of legends or CS:GO.
PVP in MMORPGs especially in titles such as this are more like fighting in real life war.
Almost never balanced or fair because the stakes are higher and victory by any means is all that matters. (while remaining within the rules if the game of course)
Most people eschew war, hence this style of PVP is not enjoyed by quite so many.
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this isn't the only PvP game out there.
and for the record, ofc i tried darkfall, i simply didn't like it's engine.
uh and just sayin'.... "real pvpers" don't even play mmos.
they play quake.
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Why not say hearthstone is pvp as well?
Just saying it sounds strange to me is all.
Remember, PVP stands for player-versus-player and by that definition chess is as much of a PVP as Dota or Hearthstone and what not.
Now if we're talking about mmorpgquestgrindtomaxthendailiespvp then yeah.
Obvious provoking to lure people on a game is obvious.
he will start promoting darkfall when it launches in q2
as for the balance part... no classes so.. every fight relies on choices/aiming/stats mangement/positioning and alot of other factors
but yes its not pixel aiming as in csgo
I am just tired of reading the forum here over over again about people that are bored with pvp mmos in general..
this is pretty response..
Darkfall is balanced in meta part of the game.. if everyone has a max char the game is balanced.
But i guess people wanne have easy mode in mmorpg which means
Time invested into gear --> win a pvp battle
This is simply not the case in darkfall..
You can have the best gear wearing in darkfall and still get killed by people in robes, if they are much better then you
if equally skilled players are fighting eachother.. then you feel the difference in gear is..
In the past the griefers were actually kind of bad at the game.... but took advantage of certain elements of the past. Any determined player, whether bad or not, will succeed in this game. Just can't be stupid and know that murphys law always applies first before taking risks.
If you took a minute to ask for help or just kept at it, you will recover from whatever loss no matter how bad you are at the game. The world is huge and has a lot to offer every type of player.
Its not like theres FFA PVP only in small areas with baddies always waiting for you... nope..... the world is the biggest non-instanced world that I know of and there are plenty of places to safely farm or do your own thing. Many clans and group are happy to take along cool people even if they are new or lack FPS l33t skills.
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People will have excuses as why to not try it: Bad graphics, full loot, no easy mode, skill based, but many of those people that have played it in the past liked it, but we all admit Aventurine really killed the game and factors like no skill cap and lacking non pvp features hurt alot.
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Except in Darkfall there is only so far you can go before your character is maxed, and even before that you're viable for endgame pvp. The only difference between MOBAs and FPS Arenas, is the instance and ranking system, which I keep telling these people they need.
Your right in the sense that as long as zergs can remain a thing, they will remain a thing, but hasn't stopped us from hosting tournaments with prizes to see who actually is the best. An Arena + ELO system would take Darkfall is the only difference here, the rest Darkfall has.
BPG is overhauling A LOT of these systems btw. Aventurine did NOTHING. Most recent changes included adding in Champion Spawns similar to UO system, creating a raid type encounter.
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Yes i have also played Darkfall.
I cannot give an honest opinion to which MMO pvp is the best because i do not like pvp in a mmo setting,it is not a purest type pvp nor will a MMO ever offer the maximum skilled pvp i want.
Overwatch is closer to the pvp i want and i won't even play that game,so imagine how i feel about where Darkfall lies in the scale of 1-10 quality of pvp.
I believe what happened to cloud most minds in ALL genres,is they joined gaming when it became super diluted.I truly believe i got to play the BEST design for most genres FIRST,then that gave me a better understanding of what developers are doing.I know a LOT of people like to say things like "oh so and so might copy but they do it better",although that is possible,i have seen very little "doing it better" in latter designs.
I should also point out that DF is a bit too easy to cheat and tough to notice it.In pvp games i have played,i have a really good idea when someone is cheating.Why does this matter,well because the players can leave that server and go to a better server,where as in MMOS you are pretty much locked into the server no matter what.It also matters a lot because in general wide gaming,there is VERY little if any GM proactive work,however on private servers,the GM's are usually active and clamp down on cheating.
I only scratched the surface a very small bit as to why i am not interested in Darkfall pvp.
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In other words, I think its pretty safe to presume that any pvper worth their merit has already tried Darkfall. Not unlike EVE, Darkfall has its niche. Though any attempts to promote the game need not be begrudged, there is no need to delude oneself into thinking that five years later any additional promotional attempts will make any type of substantial difference in its player base. Darkfall is what it is. It has a small loyal niche player base and that niche crowd is all it will ever have. That is the predictable fate for any OWPvP game of its kind.