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I payed for this game 15 years ago, will I have to pay again in order to play?

StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
in Dark and Light
As per title.

Maybe give it a wave if you were a scammed settler yourself o/
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  • NephethNepheth Member RarePosts: 473
    This game has nothing to do with the old Dark and Light besides the name. Everything is different including the genre and the company behind it. So yes you have pay again.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    edited December 2016
    You might have paid for an old game but this game may take it's name but is not connected to the old game now. Even if you might track the purchase of the IP it has significantly changed so I doubt they will accept that payment .

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    StarI said:
    As per title.

    Maybe give it a wave if you were a scammed settler yourself o/
    I wasn't a scammed settler because the game looked like a pile of crap at the time, so I didn't fell for it.
    I also tried to warn others.....but some people just don't listen.

    Of course you have to pay again because this is a new company.
    They bought the IP and made another game, why should be held responsible for other companies failures?

  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Instead of asking what "you" get for free or what you are entitled to, you should be asking why these guys would use a name that is associated with so much disappointment and resentment.  Why have there been no actual gameplay videos released yet when this game is so close to being available on steam?
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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    This is a completely different game, with the same name. So yes, you have to pay. I get that it was created from the failed title that launched ages ago, but don't expect free things when it's basically a complete reboot of the IP and a completely remade game on a new engine. That's just asinine.

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  • BestinnaBestinna Member UncommonPosts: 190
    Talonsin said:
    Why have there been no actual gameplay videos released yet when this game is so close to being available on steam?
    It's going to be released as early access too and we all already know how many scams are involved with that. The fact there are no gameplay videos sort of just reinforces the idea that it will be a scam.

    I just heard of this game and watched a youtube video. I started out actually really interested in the game and what they wanted to implement but very quickly started thinking to myself ''those are a lot of things... too many things'', then I realized they were using Unreal Engine, then I found out there were almost zero videos on the gameplay, then I remembered he said it was coming to early access, then I found out the company has been known to make games Pay-to-Win, then I found out it was a 12 year old game, only to lastly find out it's actually 15 years old or more!

    I really don't believe these people will deliver on anything at all. I mean, I know they won't.
  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    Hey!

    I bought a candy 15 years ago. Now they will release a brand new candy. Would I have to pay for the candy again to..taste it ? I hated the candy back then! Maybe I am entitled to get one for free now?!

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  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    Wait, there was another game named dark and light 15 years ago?  From what I'm gathering in this post, it failed to launch after people bought it?
  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    Finally found something after 10 minutes of digging online.  It's amazing how the newer title has buried the older game in the search engine results.

    According to Wikipedia:  

    MMORPG.com gave the game a 4 out of 10, saying that it "offers a degree of freedom that is rare in online games" but "the game in its current state is broken, full of bugs and does not have half of what was promised"



  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    I was Settler 2637 , played for the 2 years the game was up , was alotta fun thru the technical and  internal legal battles the Devs fought thru to the end , Hoping Snail has captured the Spirit of D&L has they have said over and over , and dont muck it up with an invasive CAshShop..
     
     And the original name was DArk and Light , , when Snail got it they renamed in 06 to Savage Horizon , then back to D&L, last year ..
  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    DMKano said:
    H0urg1ass said:
    Wait, there was another game named dark and light 15 years ago?  From what I'm gathering in this post, it failed to launch after people bought it?
    Originally it was called Savage Horizon, then renamed to Dark and Light. It promised amazing stuff, failed to deliver - was going to be the best sandbox mmorpg ever. fast forward to today, now its a Survival game
    You know nothing JohnDMKano and you didn't actually answered to his question!

    The game didn't failed to launch! The game launched. Bugged, very bugged actually, yes! But it did launch. About the Savage Horizon , @Scorchien gave you the answer to that !

    Cheers John!

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  • health001health001 Member UncommonPosts: 58
    People cry to just cry
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    Just wait for it to go to f2p and then joila you dont have to pay!
  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
    ste2000 said:
    StarI said:
    As per title.

    Maybe give it a wave if you were a scammed settler yourself o/
    I wasn't a scammed settler because the game looked like a pile of crap at the time, so I didn't fell for it.
    I also tried to warn others.....but some people just don't listen.

    Of course you have to pay again because this is a new company.
    They bought the IP and made another game, why should be held responsible for other companies failures?
    When I payed there wasn't anything to look at. I don't remember Youtube at that point, there was no Twitch for sure. I never requested money back, because when I did purchase I knew the risk. However that doesn't change the fact I got scammed. A smart new owner could spin that perfectly to score points with their new fan base.

    Maybe half the price and a small dragon? No rush, DnL thought me well. I use modern tools and always let a mass of nerds test games for me, before I decide if it's worth the purchase.
  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
    IceAge said:
    Hey!

    I bought a candy 15 years ago. Now they will release a brand new candy. Would I have to pay for the candy again to..taste it ? I hated the candy back then! Maybe I am entitled to get one for free now?!

    There's a slight flaw to your analogy.
    I was promised this 


    But all I got was this



    While the vendor fled with my money never to be seen again.
  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Talonsin said:
    Instead of asking what "you" get for free or what you are entitled to, you should be asking why these guys would use a name that is associated with so much disappointment and resentment.  Why have there been no actual gameplay videos released yet when this game is so close to being available on steam?
    I'm glad to see I'm not the only one wondering that. :) 
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  • carotidcarotid Member UncommonPosts: 425
    StarI said:
    IceAge said:
    Hey!

    I bought a candy 15 years ago. Now they will release a brand new candy. Would I have to pay for the candy again to..taste it ? I hated the candy back then! Maybe I am entitled to get one for free now?!

    There's a slight flaw to your analogy.
    I was promised this 


    But all I got was this



    While the vendor fled with my money never to be seen again.
    You have a skewed perception of reality.
  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
    carotid said:
    StarI said:

    You have a skewed perception of reality.
    What do you mean, I literally only stated facts. Just used another's man analogy and enhanced it with some pictures.
  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    H0urg1ass said:
    Finally found something after 10 minutes of digging online.  It's amazing how the newer title has buried the older game in the search engine results.

    According to Wikipedia:  

    MMORPG.com gave the game a 4 out of 10, saying that it "offers a degree of freedom that is rare in online games" but "the game in its current state is broken, full of bugs and does not have half of what was promised"



    The only reason there is that much about it is because the MMORPG.com guys are some of the few that showed up for the press invites. IceAge said:
    DMKano said:
    H0urg1ass said:
    Wait, there was another game named dark and light 15 years ago?  From what I'm gathering in this post, it failed to launch after people bought it?
    Originally it was called Savage Horizon, then renamed to Dark and Light. It promised amazing stuff, failed to deliver - was going to be the best sandbox mmorpg ever. fast forward to today, now its a Survival game
    You know nothing DMKano and you didn't actually answered to his question!

    The game didn't failed to launch! The game launched. Bugged, very bugged actually, yes! But it did launch. About the Savage Horizon , @Scorchien gave you the answer to that !

    Cheers!

    The launch of Dark and Light was after people long since gave up on it. The devs could barely get press to show up for the free walkthroughs, and the ones that press did show up for were riddled with bugs. I think the server crashed several times during the walkthrough I attended. 

    At the time DDO, LOTRO, Rappelz, BBO/VCO, PotBS, and Auto Assault - for reasons of interest, ad dollars, or fanbase - had the attention of most MMO gamers. The original DnL wasn't going anywhere. I'm guessing that this team is banking on most people not knowing about the previous abomination. 
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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    LynxJSA said:


    ... I'm guessing that this team is banking on most people not knowing about the previous abomination. 
    I'm absolutely sure they're betting on nobody remembering the original clusterf*ck. I don't think the original launched in China, so very few gamers there would know about it.
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,039
    StarI said:
    IceAge said:
    Hey!

    I bought a candy 15 years ago. Now they will release a brand new candy. Would I have to pay for the candy again to..taste it ? I hated the candy back then! Maybe I am entitled to get one for free now?!

    There's a slight flaw to your analogy.
    I was promised this 


    But all I got was this



    While the vendor fled with my money never to be seen again.
    Except they are too completely different stores and owners.  So not sure what you're point is.
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  • LuidenLuiden Member RarePosts: 337
    Scorchien said:
    I was Settler 2637 , played for the 2 years the game was up , was alotta fun thru the technical and  internal legal battles the Devs fought thru to the end , Hoping Snail has captured the Spirit of D&L has they have said over and over , and dont muck it up with an invasive CAshShop..
     
     And the original name was DArk and Light , , when Snail got it they renamed in 06 to Savage Horizon , then back to D&L, last year ..
    The real question I have is how did you play this for 2 years?  This game was so bad it was lucky if somebody lasted 10 minutes.  With all the other innovative games out at that time (DAOC, EQ1, EQ2 coming, WoW coming etc) how could you have possibly played this for 2 years?
  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    StarI said:
    IceAge said:
    Hey!

    I bought a candy 15 years ago. Now they will release a brand new candy. Would I have to pay for the candy again to..taste it ? I hated the candy back then! Maybe I am entitled to get one for free now?!

    There's a slight flaw to your analogy.
    I was promised this 


    But all I got was this



    While the vendor fled with my money never to be seen again.
    " I hated the candy back then " 

    So yeah! There you go! 

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  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    StarI said:
    As per title.

    Maybe give it a wave if you were a scammed settler yourself o/


    You didn't play any mmo called Dark And Light 15 years ago. 




  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
    Not even a tiny dwagon? :(

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