This little tidbit has sure got the doomsayers riled-up into a frenzy, lol
I guess some people are going to become incoherent as the SC project nears completion.
The worst possible news for the haterz: Amazon's business team have evaluated CIG and found them to be acceptable business partners, not perpetrators of a giant scam.
A company like Amazon will perform due diligence checks before exposing themselves to potentially high-risk business agreements. If they judged CIG to be dodgy, this deal would never have materialised.
Umm where is it that they are partners? You guys are frigging hilarious. CiG is USING Amazons product, theyre a CUSTOMER, NOT a 'partner'.
Now if you all want to fantasize about all the changes and all the omissions and lies and try and figure out what is true or not trie or figure out what 'version' of CE each company (Amazon and CiG) had or have or what version Lumberyard is derived from go ahead. But its unlikely you will know for sure.
Its a safe bet that whatever version it is they share it and if this si an actual time Chris Roberts is telling the truth then its likely the version Amazon has and that work that has been goin ginto SC (as per Roberts story) for the past 'over a year' was built in direct correlation with the Lumberyard version.
So even though they (CiG) have supposedly been rebuilding it for a year they have also (if THAT story is true) been working on stuff they know (if they follow both those stories) was going to be used in the Lumberyard version.
This isnt some plug and play or cut and paste scenario here. UNLESS the worklCiG has been doing was done to fit the specification of the LY version. People that think if Amazon and CiG were working independently and they both at this point have completely compatible versions are in frigging dream land. Its also laughable to think that Amazon took what CiG did and incorporated into their version.
They spent 50 million for the Cry Engine why would they let Chris Roberts and his merry band of misfits fumblefuck around with it? Amazon bought it for the reasons they said they did. The AWS and the ease a dinosaur like that can be manipulated (ip to a point) a point I still contend is OK for what Amazon REALLY wants to do with it, but quite a shortfall from what CiG wants to do with it.
This little tidbit has sure got the doomsayers riled-up into a frenzy, lol
I guess some people are going to become incoherent as the SC project nears completion.
The worst possible news for the haterz: Amazon's business team have evaluated CIG and found them to be acceptable business partners, not perpetrators of a giant scam.
A company like Amazon will perform due diligence checks before exposing themselves to potentially high-risk business agreements. If they judged CIG to be dodgy, this deal would never have materialised.
Umm where is it that they are partners? You guys are frigging hilarious. CiG is USING Amazons product, theyre a CUSTOMER, NOT a 'partner'.
This is pretty much the truth of the matter. Anyone can use the software. If I use the software, I'm not suddenly "a partner of Amazon". If I buy a Big Mac, I'm not suddenly an investor in McDonald's.
Umm where is it that they are partners? You guys are frigging hilarious. CiG is USING Amazons product, theyre a CUSTOMER, NOT a 'partner'.
“Star Citizen and Squadron 42 are incredibly ambitious projects which
are only possible with great engine technology paired with the
transformative power of the cloud. We love how CIG’s bold vision has
already inspired a massive community, and we’re thrilled to see what
they create with Lumberyard, AWS, and the Twitch community,” said Dan
Winters, head of business development for Amazon Games. “We’re excited
that they’ve chosen Lumberyard and AWS to provide the performance and
scalability they need to bring their games to a massive audience.”
Dan Winters of Amazon sounds pretty happy about it ;-)
This is pretty much the truth of the matter. Anyone can use the software. If I use the software, I'm not suddenly "a partner of Amazon". If I buy a Big Mac, I'm not suddenly an investor in McDonald's.
Go ahead ... let us know what Dan Winters of Amazon says about you using their software.
Umm where is it that they are partners? You guys are frigging hilarious. CiG is USING Amazons product, theyre a CUSTOMER, NOT a 'partner'.
“Star Citizen and Squadron 42 are incredibly ambitious projects which
are only possible with great engine technology paired with the
transformative power of the cloud. We love how CIG’s bold vision has
already inspired a massive community, and we’re thrilled to see what
they create with Lumberyard, AWS, and the Twitch community,” said Dan
Winters, head of business development for Amazon Games. “We’re excited
that they’ve chosen Lumberyard and AWS to provide the performance and
scalability they need to bring their games to a massive audience.”
Dan Winters of Amazon sounds pretty happy about it ;-)
Have fun
He's excited someone is using the product. Being excited and being partners is not the same thing, regardless of how you conflate the two.
Lemme see .. CIG "switched engines" from CryEngine to .... ** drumroll ** CryEngine ....
This is probably the most simplest explanation of what's happened, but of course it can't be that simple to some, there must be a scam, conspiracy, illuminati, aliens behind it all.
I'm not so sure about the use of the term "partner". Having a game with the publicity of Star Citizen as an example of what Dev's can do with their engine is a huge win for Amazon.
It's very possible that they don't view CIG as a customer, but as a way to market their Engine.
It's very possible that they don't view CIG as a customer, but as a way to market their Engine.
And you win a cookie!
It's more a business decision than anything else; SC has a massive focus on tech-development and at least on my opinion it already has impressive tech on it on the way they got it all working together already.
Obviously a successful SC under their name is a massive win for Amazon, so it is on their best interests ofc.
It's very possible that they don't view CIG as a customer, but as a way to market their Engine.
And you win a cookie!
It's more a business decision than anything else; SC has a massive focus on tech-development and at least on my opinion it already has impressive tech on it on the way they got it all working together already.
Obviously a successful SC under their name is a massive win for Amazon, so it is on their best interests ofc.
CIG will be "successful" if they deliver products SQ42 and Star Citizen in the form they were portrayed from the period they started accepting income. Moving that goalpost is a load of horseshit.
It's very possible that they don't view CIG as a customer, but as a way to market their Engine.
And you win a cookie!
It's more a business decision than anything else; SC has a massive focus on tech-development and at least on my opinion it already has impressive tech on it on the way they got it all working together already.
Obviously a successful SC under their name is a massive win for Amazon, so it is on their best interests ofc.
CIG will be "successful" if they deliver products SQ42 and Star Citizen in the form they were portrayed from the period they started accepting income. Moving that goalpost is a load of horseshit.
Don't hold your breath for that one, lol
Besides, they're not moving the goalposts. The old ones were scrapped and replaced with new modern ones !
Umm where is it that they are partners? You guys are frigging hilarious. CiG is USING Amazons product, theyre a CUSTOMER, NOT a 'partner'.
“Star Citizen and Squadron 42 are incredibly ambitious projects which
are only possible with great engine technology paired with the
transformative power of the cloud. We love how CIG’s bold vision has
already inspired a massive community, and we’re thrilled to see what
they create with Lumberyard, AWS, and the Twitch community,” said Dan
Winters, head of business development for Amazon Games. “We’re excited
that they’ve chosen Lumberyard and AWS to provide the performance and
scalability they need to bring their games to a massive audience.”
Dan Winters of Amazon sounds pretty happy about it ;-)
Have fun
LMAO that would be like McDonalds saying theyre happy Joey Chestnut eats at their 'restaurants' and Joey Chestnut (look him up) claiming he was McDonalds partner.
That was a self serving media spin where these guys at Amazon are looking to sucker some of the SC backers into using their pay for play options. Nothing more nothing less. They already know that demographic is easily duped out of their money just by looking at the amount of money this project has (allegedly) raised.
He is basically the father of a Girl Scout who has his daughter troll all the weight watcher meetings and sets up shop right out side with a table full of cookie boxes.
CIG will be "successful" if they deliver products SQ42 and Star Citizen in the form they were portrayed from the period they started accepting income. Moving that goalpost is a load of horseshit.
It's not you who determines the parameters for its success because you are salty about the missed deadlines, it's up to the backers and ofc once released, to the critics.
Let the drama rage on! :chuffed: To next one, and the next one... Up until the game releases and beyond!
Umm where is it that they are partners? You guys are frigging hilarious. CiG is USING Amazons product, theyre a CUSTOMER, NOT a 'partner'.
“Star Citizen and Squadron 42 are incredibly ambitious projects which
are only possible with great engine technology paired with the
transformative power of the cloud. We love how CIG’s bold vision has
already inspired a massive community, and we’re thrilled to see what
they create with Lumberyard, AWS, and the Twitch community,” said Dan
Winters, head of business development for Amazon Games. “We’re excited
that they’ve chosen Lumberyard and AWS to provide the performance and
scalability they need to bring their games to a massive audience.”
Dan Winters of Amazon sounds pretty happy about it ;-)
Have fun
Of course he is happy, he now gets a piece of that 130 million that players keep throwing at Chris. Do you think Amazon is providing this service and hosting for free when the game goes live? LOL
"Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game." - SEANMCAD
I take it CIG are also making use of Amazon's Gamelift for server scaling, update deplyment etc
Wouldn't this be a bit problematical though?
Well assuming by their words they do are rewriting CE's netcode in one hand (meant for 3.0) and working a cloud-based scalability solution (no ETA); I think that would be the right time to get it done no?
Seeing that the whole cloud scalability solution was said to having tests during 2017, that could be exactly their intention to use Amazon's service instead?
I take it CIG are also making use of Amazon's Gamelift for server scaling, update depolyment etc Wouldn't this be a bit problematical though? <snip - Gamelift not supporting PU).
Have to see.
However - presumably - Amazon are going to be using it and they are developing an mmo. Will it have a "PU" though? If it does though I think we can assume that CiG will be able to as well. If not they will have to sort it - which is what they would have to have done anyway.
You really don't know at all. Look at mods of games like skyrim and see if they are compatable with each other. Yes some of them are but the heavily modified ones have to be purposely built to work together. And both of these companies claim to be working with a heavily modified version. Which is why it took CIG a year to get it working.
I have got the t-shirt! This stuff is a potential can of worms which is why there are specialists, processes and - crucially - sophisticated (and expensive) "version control" and "configuration control" software. Absolutely confident that both CiG and Amazon will have been using one of the products on the market. This is the key that will have allowed them to "compare" what they both had and bring it all together. Skyrim modders don't have this luxury (necessity).
I just think there far too many people here that just "have" to be right becuase like one of them admitted, "I will let time prove me right like it always has." lmao
Yup, that didn't well for some "Smart" people didn't it; when judgment is too much clouded by bias, it shall be impossible to have balanced discussions about anything. Again it's not easy to have discussions with people who defend the moon landing was faked; you can already know by that what kind of narrative to expect.
I take it CIG are also making use of Amazon's Gamelift for server scaling, update depolyment etc Wouldn't this be a bit problematical though? <snip - Gamelift not supporting PU).
Have to see.
However - presumably - Amazon are going to be using it and they are developing an mmo. Will it have a "PU" though? If it does though I think we can assume that CiG will be able to as well. If not they will have to sort it - which is what they would have to have done anyway.
Well that was discussed pretty in depth a few months ago and even the guys excited about New World were very cautiously optimistic that the LY engine could run the game and it would still have to be heavily modified.
Thats why I say people should hold their jets when it comes to doing cartwheels in regards to SC.
You really don't know at all. Look at mods of games like skyrim and see if they are compatable with each other. Yes some of them are but the heavily modified ones have to be purposely built to work together. And both of these companies claim to be working with a heavily modified version. Which is why it took CIG a year to get it working.
I have got the t-shirt! This stuff is a potential can of worms which is why there are specialists, processes and - crucially - sophisticated (and expensive) "version control" and "configuration control" software. Absolutely confident that both CiG and Amazon will have been using one of the products on the market. This is the key that will have allowed them to "compare" what they both had and bring it all together. Skyrim modders don't have this luxury (necessity).
The absurdness of your post is just silly. They said it took them a year to convert over. They said that not me.
Lemme see .. CIG "switched engines" from CryEngine to .... ** drumroll ** CryEngine ....
This is probably the most simplest explanation of what's happened, but of course it can't be that simple to some, there must be a scam, conspiracy, illuminati, aliens behind it all.
So You should be able to take any game developed on the Dunia engine and throw it into the warhorse studios engine and it will work just peachy right?
Umm where is it that they are partners? You guys are frigging hilarious. CiG is USING Amazons product, theyre a CUSTOMER, NOT a 'partner'.
“Star Citizen and Squadron 42 are incredibly ambitious projects which
are only possible with great engine technology paired with the
transformative power of the cloud. We love how CIG’s bold vision has
already inspired a massive community, and we’re thrilled to see what
they create with Lumberyard, AWS, and the Twitch community,” said Dan
Winters, head of business development for Amazon Games. “We’re excited
that they’ve chosen Lumberyard and AWS to provide the performance and
scalability they need to bring their games to a massive audience.”
Dan Winters of Amazon sounds pretty happy about it ;-)
Have fun
I'm not reading anywhere in that quote that mentions anything about a partnership. As rodarin stated they are customers, nothing more.
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Or as Obama would say: "The run will rise again tomorrow."
Now if you all want to fantasize about all the changes and all the omissions and lies and try and figure out what is true or not trie or figure out what 'version' of CE each company (Amazon and CiG) had or have or what version Lumberyard is derived from go ahead. But its unlikely you will know for sure.
Its a safe bet that whatever version it is they share it and if this si an actual time Chris Roberts is telling the truth then its likely the version Amazon has and that work that has been goin ginto SC (as per Roberts story) for the past 'over a year' was built in direct correlation with the Lumberyard version.
So even though they (CiG) have supposedly been rebuilding it for a year they have also (if THAT story is true) been working on stuff they know (if they follow both those stories) was going to be used in the Lumberyard version.
This isnt some plug and play or cut and paste scenario here. UNLESS the worklCiG has been doing was done to fit the specification of the LY version. People that think if Amazon and CiG were working independently and they both at this point have completely compatible versions are in frigging dream land. Its also laughable to think that Amazon took what CiG did and incorporated into their version.
They spent 50 million for the Cry Engine why would they let Chris Roberts and his merry band of misfits fumblefuck around with it? Amazon bought it for the reasons they said they did. The AWS and the ease a dinosaur like that can be manipulated (ip to a point) a point I still contend is OK for what Amazon REALLY wants to do with it, but quite a shortfall from what CiG wants to do with it.
Dan Winters of Amazon sounds pretty happy about it ;-)
Have fun
Have fun
It's very possible that they don't view CIG as a customer, but as a way to market their Engine.
It's more a business decision than anything else; SC has a massive focus on tech-development and at least on my opinion it already has impressive tech on it on the way they got it all working together already.
Obviously a successful SC under their name is a massive win for Amazon, so it is on their best interests ofc.
Besides, they're not moving the goalposts. The old ones were scrapped and replaced with new modern ones !
That was a self serving media spin where these guys at Amazon are looking to sucker some of the SC backers into using their pay for play options. Nothing more nothing less. They already know that demographic is easily duped out of their money just by looking at the amount of money this project has (allegedly) raised.
He is basically the father of a Girl Scout who has his daughter troll all the weight watcher meetings and sets up shop right out side with a table full of cookie boxes.
Let the drama rage on! :chuffed: To next one, and the next one... Up until the game releases and beyond!
Wouldn't this be a bit problematical though?
Seeing that the whole cloud scalability solution was said to having tests during 2017, that could be exactly their intention to use Amazon's service instead?
However - presumably - Amazon are going to be using it and they are developing an mmo. Will it have a "PU" though? If it does though I think we can assume that CiG will be able to as well. If not they will have to sort it - which is what they would have to have done anyway.
Also, Derek Smart was right.
Baaaahahahahaha!
Thats why I say people should hold their jets when it comes to doing cartwheels in regards to SC.
So You should be able to take any game developed on the Dunia engine and throw it into the warhorse studios engine and it will work just peachy right?