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Vonclifton
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As of all of know I support SWG as it is now. I still enjoy playing it and i will support it till the day gets cancelled. Which i hope it doesnt happen.
But i have heard people bring up ideas of a new SWG game but set at a time more around the time of the Mandolorian wars.
This think this would be a rather good idea! It would allow there to still be two side to fight on. The Mandolorian or the sith or fight with the jedi but not having to be a jedi if you dont want to. and of course doing a privetter type of thing.
It would also solve the issue with there being alot of jedi, and if the was a bounty hunter class and you could have real bountys on real players and jedi it would encurrage people to play other classes that jedi.
I know other poeple have posted this idea before, but i just wanted to say that i also think it is a good idea and i wanted to throw my idea in there as well
please feel free to post your ideas or comments as well
Please no bashing!
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Now, on to this post. It's very difficult to discuss something like this topic without a common frame of reference. Many of the "new" ideas you may mention could easily be things that we had in the original SWG, things that were taken away. As some others have said, know your audience. Know what you're getting into before opening your mouth. I read these forums for awhile before I ever created a login. Then I posted very little as I gauged responses to my early posts. Now I can't shut up since I have an idea of what the community here is like. I know what to say and how to say it without pissing off almost everyone. There's a good life lesson in there somewhere.
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Hi,
1st let me say that I'm a 2 and half year Vet till the NGE [which I did try and hated].
2nd I to like the idea of having an additional option for a SWG game set in another time period like the Sith wars or KOTOR time period. So you and I agree on that, as long as it's not based on the NGE system.
3rd I know your looking for fellow gamers who share your like for the current game and your right in the fact that you should be able to come here a find some, and it's good that you found a game you like. But with that being said keep in mind that many here had a game that they truely liked taken away and as such many are hanging in hoping for the real SWG to come back, while others are wanting revenge and hope that SOE falls to the waste side. There are some here who also simply want to make others aware of how SOE treats their customers so that they want get screwed by SOE like many of us did, which in turn is a way of hoping to SOE fall [see SOE promised a lot of stuff {fixes, content, and profession fixes but in the end we were all lied too and this isn't an exaggeration or opinon].
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Tauceti
Bounty Hunter vs. Jedi construct is one that was created by SWG. Bounty Hunters are mercenaries, doing dirty work for money. As such, in the era of Mandalorian wars, this is completely redundant. There would be a more important enemy to fight.
The number of Jedi has always been an issue. The conflict it caused came from two opposing beliefs: one was that jedi should be rare, the other was Jedi should be free-for-all. The obvious problem (as shown by NGE) is that Jedi is played by 70%+ of population. As such, Jedi became completely devalued, a dime-a-dozen class. This goes against the core principle of Jedi as presented in the SW universe. No matter which timeline, they never ever represented majority of population.
There is no fair solution to the Jedi problem. The people that played pre-cu accepted the class for what it was. "Hard" to obtain, "rare" and "powerful". All of these are subject to discussion, but it is generally agreed that this was the case. SWG cannot and will not go back to this state, because the playerbase would not accept it.
Another problem is, it's not starwarsy. Mandalorians, sith, these are all the topics that only SW fans understand. Star Wars (in its present form) is defined by Episodes 1-3. Average (the target of SWG) player knows the following facts about SWG: jedi, lightsabers, tie figher, storm trooper, bounty hunters, gungans, empire, rebels, Luke, Leia, Amidala, Vader, emperor, Anakin, Jabba, Luke, Chewie, r2-d2, c-3po, wookie, Tatooine, Naboo, Death Star. This is what the game must have, to apeal to population. And all these things must look like they did in the movies.
SWG is now a mass market product, and must use greatest common denominator. Any and all ties to the fan-supported Star Wars universe are merely coincidental.
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a couple of thoughts on time period.
To even think the game galaxies is fixed to a time period is a dream, even from the start there was many, many non-cannon (eu or otherwise) features. Some of the nastiest flame wars through out the games life span is cannon peopel and the game players.
If a game is going to be advertised as having playable Jedi, then the time period would have to be either somwhere in post movie era, or before the movies.
No matter what time period you select someone is goign to scream/cry/whine about something. the problem with a set IP like star wars is that you get some really fanatical devotees of it and DEMAND that you follow the IP down to the last nuna .
The game mechanics are debatable, while some of you still like the NGE, others want a more complex and there fore more engaging game play. To be prefectly honest, my dream would be for you all that enjoy NGE to keep it. Let SoE rumble along the train tracks that they have built. then let another company develope a very complex star wars product. do the things that SoE never did for the original game. market the thing, have a tutoral for those that need or want it, have CONTENT that is a framework to build on by the players. I honestly think that there is enough player money out here that two Star wars online games could be successful. Maybe not WoW successful but that is whole different kettle of fish.
Tto be honest though, with how SoE has handled such things that are critical to me like customer service, and perceived value of the customer, i can safely say if they were to be the ones to make the complex version I would not pay for it.
(sorry for the ramble)
i have no idea what you just said?
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(insert a clever flame)
seems clear enough to me, you asked about the time line and i answered
the time line that suggest was around during the sith wars
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Hi,
I just wanted to reply to this, with the following point.
Side note on the existence of Jedi in this time period. So keep this in mind when you try and say Jedi should not be in the game.
1. Star Wars ROTS [EP3] hints at the possibility that Jedi may have survived.
2. The EU indicates that Jedi have survived during this time period.
3. Star Wars EP 4-6 is just one focus of whats going on in the galaxy at the time, so this doesn't mean that there are not Jedi doing their part but more secretly.
4. Keep in mind that the upcoming TV series is to take place between EP3 and EP4 and will have a jedi in it [last I heard].
5. Force Sensitives are still being born every day in this time period, as well as after EP3, and sense Jedi started with FS it is possible that some could become a jedi. Also consider that durning this time there is the possibly plenty of references for FS to know about Jedi which gives them the advantage in learning the ways of the force. So probably the best thing the DEVs could have done for becoming a Jedi was to make it more quest based involving use of both mind and body.
6. Finally, remember Jedi was just a name given to a group of organized force sensitives that gained a high level of status. So it is quite that there are other more formal and organized force sensitive out there with their own name; example you could have a
organization called Force Knight, or how about one from the game and the EU .....NIGHT SISTERS!!!!!!
Any how that's my two cents.
Tauceti
Hi,
I just wanted to reply to this, with the following point.
Side note on the existence of Jedi in this time period. So keep this in mind when you try and say Jedi should not be in the game.
1. Star Wars ROTS [EP3] hints at the possibility that Jedi may have survived.
2. The EU indicates that Jedi have survived during this time period.
3. Star Wars EP 4-6 is just one focus of whats going on in the galaxy at the time, so this doesn't mean that there are not Jedi doing their part but more secretly.
4. Keep in mind that the upcoming TV series is to take place between EP3 and EP4 and will have a jedi in it [last I heard].
5. Force Sensitives are still being born every day in this time period, as well as after EP3, and sense Jedi started with FS it is possible that some could become a jedi. Also consider that durning this time there is the possibly plenty of references for FS to know about Jedi which gives them the advantage in learning the ways of the force. So probably the best thing the DEVs could have done for becoming a Jedi was to make it more quest based involving use of both mind and body.
6. Finally, remember Jedi was just a name given to a group of organized force sensitives that gained a high level of status. So it is quite that there are other more formal and organized force sensitive out there with their own name; example you could have a
organization called Force Knight, or how about one from the game and the EU .....NIGHT SISTERS!!!!!!
Any how that's my two cents.
Tauceti
honestly i was thinking the very same thing. know one said obi-wan and yoda were the only jedi left. just maybe the only jedi masters that were apart of the jedi cousil that were left. then comes luke force sensitive gets trianed by another jedi. same thing could happen to other people. from lesser jedi that are in hiding.
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