lets wait until we are able to play before coming to conclusions
I think that would require being reasonable. Have you read any of the other threads this guy starts, because reasonable is not a word I would use even remotely to describe them.
Its pretty reasonable. It is in fact unreasonable to be hyped about a game purposely hiding info.
"Hm, I'm going to buy a house. Its still being made, will need work once bought. I see this house, but there is only a few pictures, not much else to show. A tiny trailer showing the yard of the lawn and a second or two of footage inside the house."
vs
"Well, like the previous house it will need work once bought. But, they've shown massive amounts of pictures, showed the entire interior, the good, the bad, the ugly. They invite people to see the house. They show the entire yard and backyard"
How is the second one not more reasonable? The first one is actually the unreasonable one.
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lets wait until we are able to play before coming to conclusions
I think that would require being reasonable. Have you read any of the other threads this guy starts, because reasonable is not a word I would use even remotely to describe them.
Its pretty reasonable. It is in fact unreasonable to be hyped about a game purposely hiding info.
"Hm, I'm going to buy a house. Its still being made, will need work once bought. I see this house, but there is only a few pictures, not much else to show. A tiny trailer showing the yard of the lawn and a second or two of footage inside the house."
vs
"Well, like the previous house it will need work once bought. But, they've shown massive amounts of pictures, showed the entire interior, the good, the bad, the ugly. They invite people to see the house. They show the entire yard and backyard"
How is the second one not more reasonable? The first one is actually the unreasonable one.
OR... you could wait and see once you actually play the games.
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You sort of seem to miss the point that dnl also has a PvE server and most of it is based on magic, plus you can build your own towns and tame mounts, so it's more geared towards MMORPG players than the survival game players. Two totally different games with different game mechanics and target audiences. If hardcore PvP is your thing and just hardcore PvP and survival, then yeah, Conan will be better for you. But if you are more of a social MMO player and like to build houses and towns and tame creatures than dnl will suit you better. They will both be good in my opinion.
lets wait until we are able to play before coming to conclusions
I think that would require being reasonable. Have you read any of the other threads this guy starts, because reasonable is not a word I would use even remotely to describe them.
Its pretty reasonable. It is in fact unreasonable to be hyped about a game purposely hiding info.
"Hm, I'm going to buy a house. Its still being made, will need work once bought. I see this house, but there is only a few pictures, not much else to show. A tiny trailer showing the yard of the lawn and a second or two of footage inside the house."
vs
"Well, like the previous house it will need work once bought. But, they've shown massive amounts of pictures, showed the entire interior, the good, the bad, the ugly. They invite people to see the house. They show the entire yard and backyard"
How is the second one not more reasonable? The first one is actually the unreasonable one.
OR... you could wait and see once you actually play the games.
Except, Funcom has shown lots of the game. The only thing not really shown is "endgame", and that DOES get boring in every survival game. I played Ark for over 100 hours, got all the dinosaurs had an awesome base in the center...and just got bored as nothing else to do, kinda beat the game. Not like an MMO where you keep playing
But dark and light is acting very suspicious, showing so little gameplay footage. And short tiny videos that don't actually show anything. At least funcom is actually showing the game off.
In any case, that is where dark and light MIGHT win out is the "endgame" part. If conan exiles is like a reskinned Ark, it'll get boring after 100+ hours.
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They posted a reason for not showing too much gameplay footage. No man's sky made them paranoid about showing footage of a game beforehand where the creatures and assets were subject to change before early access. They said that they did not, for instance want to show a guy fighting a creature, then said creature doesn't make it into release and they get backlash for it. Same goes for any spell effects that might change also. So basically no man's sky seemed to at least open someone's eyes when it came to advertising your games assets. Doesn't mean it's shady business, just cautious business. If you have questions, horsejoke is in Thier discord and answers stuff all the time. I just wish they would release something playable soon seeing as they pushed it back already. But they seem to understand that even if you flat out say the game is alpha and full of bugs, the MMO community will still cry foul when they come across them. If you don't believe me than read what people say about how buggy project genom i, even tho they have an obvious disclaimer saying it's buggy in the main page.
Remember when everyone thought the same thing with Age of Conan when they showed bits and pieces of the first 20 levels?...So people bought the game then realized at level 20 when they stepped out of TOrtage that the game was crap from then on.....Ilike Anarchy Online but Im very leery of some of the other stuff Funcom has done.....They made alot of big promises with both AoC and TSW and fell miserably short on both of them at release.
They posted a reason for not showing too much gameplay footage. No man's sky made them paranoid about showing footage of a game beforehand where the creatures and assets were subject to change before early access. They said that they did not, for instance want to show a guy fighting a creature, then said creature doesn't make it into release and they get backlash for it. Same goes for any spell effects that might change also. So basically no man's sky seemed to at least open someone's eyes when it came to advertising your games assets. Doesn't mean it's shady business, just cautious business. If you have questions, horsejoke is in Thier discord and answers stuff all the time. I just wish they would release something playable soon seeing as they pushed it back already. But they seem to understand that even if you flat out say the game is alpha and full of bugs, the MMO community will still cry foul when they come across them. If you don't believe me than read what people say about how buggy project genom i, even tho they have an obvious disclaimer saying it's buggy in the main page.
Just randomly click a few threads on this forum, and see how many posts there are from people who dont read the OP or insist on educating everyone about a game they dont know anything about.
Okay so I haven't posted here in years - but I can't help myself. Can someone please explain to me something....is this the same Dark And Light that was a scam years ago? I paid for that game and it never delivered. The game simply wasn't what it was hyped up to be. HUGE let down. Then the game closed as far as I know and my money was wasted. I see the logo and it looks the same....could it be that they are trying again? (stupid question) but I suppose my original purchase will not mean anything to this relaunch?
I feel the need to warn people who weren't around back then about this...unless it's something totally different.
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Errr after doing some reading this does appear to be a resurrection from the previous distributor of the game. I don't know why on earth they would buy a title that burned this many people. I remember playing in the massive EMPTY lands and almost never running into people... That wasn't the only issue with the game but the memories that I've buried deep down are surfacing up again... Good luck with this one..I hope they can deliver something for those who weren't there back in the day.
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Errr after doing some reading this does appear to be a resurrection from the previous distributor of the game. I don't know why on earth they would buy a title that burned this many people. I remember playing in the massive EMPTY lands and almost never running into people... That wasn't the only issue with the game but the memories that I've buried deep down are surfacing up again... Good luck with this one..I hope they can deliver something for those who weren't there back in the day.
Only thing the same about it is the name at this point.
Look at what we saw prior to AGE OF CONAN launch......and what we got. Be patient.....let the pioneers take the arrows. You will have a better chance to choose wisely.
Look at what we saw prior to AGE OF CONAN launch......and what we got. Be patient.....let the pioneers take the arrows. You will have a better chance to choose wisely.
I agree. Best post in the thread.
No need to rush to buy the game, but to see if the game lives up to what they said it would, while still considering alpha is alpha.
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Funcom, putting the FU in fun since Anarchy Online.
I dunno. Outside the horrible launch of AO, it was for many years, the best sci-fi MMO to come out...that wasn't another space game. There is still no sci-fi game like AO out right now. Only 1000s of space MMOs, probably cause they are easier to make than a world like anarchy online.
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Errr after doing some reading this does appear to be a resurrection from the previous distributor of the game. I don't know why on earth they would buy a title that burned this many people. I remember playing in the massive EMPTY lands and almost never running into people... That wasn't the only issue with the game but the memories that I've buried deep down are surfacing up again... Good luck with this one..I hope they can deliver something for those who weren't there back in the day.
Only thing the same about it is the name at this point.
This is why I think they should have just named it something else. If a company wants to use an old game's name for advertising, either the game is originally good (automatic excitement) or they do a final fantasy 14 thing ("We are going to fix this guys!") and be very forthcoming with massive amounts of information and content.
To just re-use a name of a failed product (in my opinion) and then tease something cool just seems weird to me. But it will work for those who don't remember the dark times. Never forget!
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I will most likely play both. Why not? 2 very different games. The fact that I can co-op in both games & there is 3rd person in both game....2017 brings exciting games. Let the FUN begin!
I was wrong everyone. I'm posting, because when one is wrong, you have to admit your mistake.
After watching livestreams of Conan Exiles, and the recent two MMORPG.com videos on DnL
Conan Exiles looks like I'd get bored super fast. Honestly, looks like Ark but nothing THAT unique. I stopped watching videos, just cause I was getting kinda bored of it. For me, I know a game is good when I watch multiple videos and get more and more excited to play.
100% when someone does videos on something of whatever game and I start falling asleep, I've always regretted that purchase of game in question. Out of 19 games I bought after getting very bored of watching videos (but wanted to give it a chance), I played 30 min to 3 hours and never played again, often just getting a refund lol.
Out of 8 games that the videos were amazing all the way through and no boredom of the game, 100% success rate.
DnL looks like I'd stick with for a long time. No surprise cause its made by Ark guys, and I played Ark Survival for 819 hours for only 5 euro (whatever that converted to USD at the time of purchase, used a non-steam store to buy it cheap)
Though the first part from MMORPG.com, DnL was kinda MEH. But then the 2nd video with magic, monsters, wyvern...so amazing. That be something I'd play for a long time. And I like medieval/fantasy more than pre-historic with sci-fi (which is what Ark was obviously).
So turns out DnL is going to be more amazing than I thought it was. Complete 360 degrees from my previous opinion that Conan Exiles was actually going to be the good one.
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Just the fact that Dark and Light offers both PvP and PvE servers makes it interesting. Still waiting for a good sandboxish game with PvE servers.
Conan Exiles has pve and pvp servers as well.
Doesn't look like a "true" MMORPG though. And it's Funcom and their heavily zoned engine... unless they changed ?
I'll be watching both anyway
EDIT: I've just read "seamless world", so I stand corrected. I was so disappointed by the Age of Conan MMORPG and Funcom's behavior that I was honestly not watching that new Conan closely enough.
D&L isn't a true mmorpg either, it's a small server survival game.
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"Hm, I'm going to buy a house. Its still being made, will need work once bought. I see this house, but there is only a few pictures, not much else to show. A tiny trailer showing the yard of the lawn and a second or two of footage inside the house."
vs
"Well, like the previous house it will need work once bought. But, they've shown massive amounts of pictures, showed the entire interior, the good, the bad, the ugly. They invite people to see the house. They show the entire yard and backyard"
How is the second one not more reasonable? The first one is actually the unreasonable one.
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/But dark and light is acting very suspicious, showing so little gameplay footage. And short tiny videos that don't actually show anything. At least funcom is actually showing the game off.
In any case, that is where dark and light MIGHT win out is the "endgame" part. If conan exiles is like a reskinned Ark, it'll get boring after 100+ hours.
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That's why I have the most disapointment in playing their games. If only the actual game is as good as their demos...
I feel the need to warn people who weren't around back then about this...unless it's something totally different.
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Be patient.....let the pioneers take the arrows. You will have a better chance to choose wisely.
No need to rush to buy the game, but to see if the game lives up to what they said it would, while still considering alpha is alpha.
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To just re-use a name of a failed product (in my opinion) and then tease something cool just seems weird to me. But it will work for those who don't remember the dark times. Never forget!
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After watching livestreams of Conan Exiles, and the recent two MMORPG.com videos on DnL
Conan Exiles looks like I'd get bored super fast. Honestly, looks like Ark but nothing THAT unique. I stopped watching videos, just cause I was getting kinda bored of it. For me, I know a game is good when I watch multiple videos and get more and more excited to play.
100% when someone does videos on something of whatever game and I start falling asleep, I've always regretted that purchase of game in question. Out of 19 games I bought after getting very bored of watching videos (but wanted to give it a chance), I played 30 min to 3 hours and never played again, often just getting a refund lol.
Out of 8 games that the videos were amazing all the way through and no boredom of the game, 100% success rate.
DnL looks like I'd stick with for a long time. No surprise cause its made by Ark guys, and I played Ark Survival for 819 hours for only 5 euro (whatever that converted to USD at the time of purchase, used a non-steam store to buy it cheap)
Though the first part from MMORPG.com, DnL was kinda MEH. But then the 2nd video with magic, monsters, wyvern...so amazing. That be something I'd play for a long time. And I like medieval/fantasy more than pre-historic with sci-fi (which is what Ark was obviously).
So turns out DnL is going to be more amazing than I thought it was. Complete 360 degrees from my previous opinion that Conan Exiles was actually going to be the good one.
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