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Is WoW too old to pick up?

furion1025furion1025 Member UncommonPosts: 45
Folks,

I've been itching to give WoW Legion a go. Been on a break from MMOs, and now looking to try and settle on a game (once again).

WoW has... well, we all know that WoW has loads of content and its own charm and what not.

But as a completely new player: is it too old for me? Is it worth starting now?

Sure there are many games coming up, but 2016 told us how that's usually turning out.

Cheers,
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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited January 2017
    Do the trial first I suggest. Then as DMKano says short answer no.
  • furion1025furion1025 Member UncommonPosts: 45
    I've tried trial. Looks alright, and I know that Legion comes with a lvl100 boost, so I can jump straight into action.
  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    In terms of age and being outdated, it's probably the single most modern MMO of all the "ancient" ones.

    That said, it's also a very specific design - and you really have to enjoy the whole themepark-loot-treadmill cycle to get the best out of it.
  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,526
    If you just want to jump straight into legion then I would say go ahead.  The game is very simplistic to learn now.  Most classes only have a couple skills in rotations now compared to the way it once was.  Very solo friendly for questing, but you will want to find a decent guild at some point.
  • furion1025furion1025 Member UncommonPosts: 45
    Hm... I used to play pre-f2p and a bit post f2p RIFT religiously, it was the perfect MMO for me. I hear RIFT is WoW rip-off (wow, don't we hear THAT a lot?). Can someone comment on that?
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Yes
  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Hm... I used to play pre-f2p and a bit post f2p RIFT religiously, it was the perfect MMO for me. I hear RIFT is WoW rip-off (wow, don't we hear THAT a lot?). Can someone comment on that?
    Yes, Rift is extremely close to WoW in a lot of ways. I consider WoW vastly superior in terms of craftsmanship and execution.
  • btdtbtdt Member RarePosts: 523
    Be forewarned...

    Legion is probably one of the worst expansions put out to date.  There is excessive RNG and gating tied into everything and not in a good way.  You may be able to push a button and be an instant 100, but you still have a ton of grinding ahead of you.

    I rate the game as: Not Recommended
  • laxielaxie Member RarePosts: 1,122
    edited January 2017
    Hm... I used to play pre-f2p and a bit post f2p RIFT religiously, it was the perfect MMO for me. I hear RIFT is WoW rip-off (wow, don't we hear THAT a lot?). Can someone comment on that?
    Ultima Online was released in 1997, being one of the oldest globally successful MMOs. It had tens of thousands of players on one server, which was unprecedented back then. It had very open gameplay - no instances and no traditional quests as you know them today. More of a medieval playground.

    In 1999, they released Everquest 1. Unlike Ultima Online, the game had a lot more focus on dungeons and quests. It was about structured group play, where you put groups of players together to clear areas for loot, while following quests at the same time. This was also a huge success, having an active player base to this date. Other similar games, like Asheron's Call, came out in 1999. These games have put down the foundation for WoW.

    WoW came out in 2004. It was likely modelled after Everquest 1, except the whole experience was more streamlined. WoW clearly directed you from quest to quest, making it easier for people to get into. Everquest 2 was released the very same month, also being very similar to EQ1. As a result, EQ2 and WoW very strikingly similar in many aspects. Their directions seemed to be different though. WoW was all about streamlining the experience, making it as clear as possible. EQ2 was about adding additional systems, giving players different options in terms of content (crafting, housing, combat).

    WoW exploded in popularity. It crossed 3 million subscribers within the first year. This was unheard of back then, remember, having 100.000 players in other games was incredible. Other developers saw this and thought WoW is clearly doing something right. You had two things happen. First, many of the already released games completely changed their design to fit WoW. Star Wars Galaxies is an example, they completely overhauled the combat, introduced quests, etc. This did not really work, as people who wanted to play WoW simply played that.

    The other thing was new studios making games to replicate the success of WoW. The reasoning was very simple. "If WoW has 5 million subscribers, all we have to do is get 10% of them to come to us. We will have 500.000 players and a very successful game." You had literally hundreds, if not thousands of WoW-like games released in the following years. Lord of the Rings Online in 2007, Warhammer in 2008.

    The logic was obviously flawed, as many of the developers found out. If 1000 companies try to get 10% of WoW's playerbase, it won't work. You will end up with an over-saturated market, where nothing will really sell as long as it is following the same formula. Star Wars: The Old Republic came out in 2011, as did RIFT. By 2011, you had companies realise they need to shake it up a little. For SWTOR, this meant adding a heavy story element to the game, trying to combine their single-player game experience with the popularity of WoW. For RIFT, they tried to put emphasis on randomly triggered world events (rifts).

    Many people will call RIFT a WoW clone. It's a fair label in the sense that all of these games are trying to replicate the success of WoW. It's misleading in the sense that WoW did not invent many of their systems, they were simply the ones to bring them to the masses.

    Farmville released in 2009. The same thing happened. It was incredibly popular, causing other companies to try and grab a piece of the pie. Even the Farmville publisher, Zynga, themselves started releasing Farmville clones. Because it's easier to make Farmville than WoW, it was particularly bad there. You had tens of thousands of Farmville-styled games. Zynga expanded greatly by 2011, only to collapse completely by 2013.

    A lot of research went into Farmville though. Companies developed bulletproof strategies of capturing new players, getting their money and retaining the big spenders. That is why you saw a lot of MMOs converting to free-to-play in the 2011-2016 period. It was a lifesaving move for many - games like SWTOR and RIFT are mainly surviving because of their free-to-play models.
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  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    You are not a true MMORPG player until you played WoW.
    Go and give it a try.

  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    I don't think so but you won't experience the proper levelling experience you should because I doubt people quest and play through the lower levels. In this regard what you will experience is a stunted game and the dungeon experience will also be severely limited by people sporting heirlooms and rushing through the dungeons. Personally it would not be too enjoyable.

    Since you indicated that you will skip to 100 then it should not be an issue the lack of an actual levelling and learning experience as you play your class

  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    edited January 2017
    I think WoW has aged well.  Also you probably can't find another MMO that has such current active development.  Of course there are many reasons for that, to include the size of Blizzard and the amount of resources they have to put towards any given project.  If you do get into it I would recommend not using the 100 lvl boost until after you max at least one character.  Given how fast one can level in WoW these days it shouldn't take long but then you will get a chance to see the bulk of the content. 
    Post edited by rodingo on

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  • furion1025furion1025 Member UncommonPosts: 45
    Thanks for the replies, folks!
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    btdt said:
    Be forewarned...

    Legion is probably one of the worst expansions put out to date.  There is excessive RNG and gating tied into everything and not in a good way.  You may be able to push a button and be an instant 100, but you still have a ton of grinding ahead of you.

    I rate the game as: Not Recommended
    Be forewarned...

    Every poll out there shows Legion to be in the top two best WoW expansions.  I understand "you" may not have liked it but the vast majority of WoW players did.

    OP, my kids and I loved it and had a lot of fun.  We only played it for 3 months because we suffer from "give me new shiny" syndrome.  The fact we stayed with it for 3 months says a lot since we dont usually stay in a game more then one or two months.
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    edited January 2017
    Dude, Legion is awesome if you are at all into themepark MMO's. You don't really start to feel the "grind" until you are deep into it and you force it on yourself, by then you already had tons of fun anyway. I came back at release and have never had this much enjoyment in WoW. It does help that it is "easier" now. While the hardcore players dislike the pruning of abilities, I think it was needed. It went from a rotation including dozens of abilities with 6 action bars needed to about 10-15 or so per class, thankfully two action bars is plenty now to maximize use of your toon. It was out of hand before.

    I said I would never go back, the hype got me curious enough to try it and I am thankful I did. 
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  • AeliousAelious Member RarePosts: 3,521
    If you've never played it and you like/don't mind tab target, linear-ish questing (Legion is a bit better about this), and mostly solo content with a smaller amount of instanced group content go for it. WoW is a really solid and fun product if the items above aren't deal breakers. With the cross realm tech Blizz has you don't have to wait for dungeon queues if you roll a tank or healer. Great story of course.

    The one issue may be needing to buy all the content up to Legion. Not sure what that cost is though.
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    No, if you haven't played it you will probably love Legion.

    Only problem is, quite a few old timers have quit, and many of the best players due to WoD & Legion.
    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
  • ApexTKMApexTKM Member UncommonPosts: 334
    edited January 2017
    I finally gave it another shot last year and bought it all because I want another option in my game collection but I don't care for it enough to play consistently. And just like Loke said below my post, its based on your subjective taste of whether or not you really care about the graphics of a mmo game.
    Aelious said:

    The one issue may be needing to buy all the content up to Legion. Not sure what that cost is though.
    well from what I remember the WoW copy has everything except legion which is 10-20 bucks(do the trial first for 50 percent off) and legion is like 60-80 bucks I think.
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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    It is really up to you.

    Certainly does even the update graphics looks rather old compared to games like ESO and GW2 and that is a problem for some.

    Also, MMOs tend to be a bit bumpy when they reach 5 expansions or so. There will be dead zones with close to zero players, way too many levels and the balance can get weird so it is usually better to start earlier but that does not mean you can't have fun with it.

    My advice is that you try the free trial and see for yourself, otherwise you might miss something you really enjoy. It of course might be far too late for your taste as well but the only way to know that is to try.

    Start with looking on 20 minutes or so youtube footage and judge if you can live with the somewhat dated graphics, if that is fine it is time to do the trial. If it then just get it and start playing. :)

    Good luck in any case.
  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    While WoW isn't too old, Blizzard is.
    You can tell by their decisions that they are suffering on dementia and general confusion.

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  • aRtFuLThinGaRtFuLThinG Member UncommonPosts: 1,387
    Old engine is good. It usually means it is stable and will run at great performance... usually.

    Well WoW's engine has always been pretty stable and runs pretty good anyways.
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    No way, WoW is still a lot of fun for both PvE and PvP.  You get a free boost to 100 with the new expansion purchase.  Good place to jump on.
  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Some things are not as fun as in the original game. But you can still enjoy it. I do. 

    EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    edited January 2017
    Do it. 

    Create your own opinion, just know that it is actually OK to both enjoy and not enjoy WoW. (despite what what dire hardcores of each camp say) 


    Amathe said:
    Some things are not as fun as in the original game. But you can still enjoy it. I do. 
    It is not like he can play the original game now is it... So that matters how...? (No... emulated servers do not count... They are simulacra, not the actual thing.)

    This have been a good conversation

  • dreamsfadedreamsfade Member UncommonPosts: 339
    Folks,

    I've been itching to give WoW Legion a go. Been on a break from MMOs, and now looking to try and settle on a game (once again).

    WoW has... well, we all know that WoW has loads of content and its own charm and what not.

    But as a completely new player: is it too old for me? Is it worth starting now?

    Sure there are many games coming up, but 2016 told us how that's usually turning out.

    Cheers,
    A simple answer: Not too old, can start anytime even a new account. Easy to pick up and level. 

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