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MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
I love the Conan world.  Some friends and I are about to start a weekly pen and paper game in the Conan world, Savage Worlds ruleset.  I read Conan comics and have read some of the books.  The 80s movies are the best.  I love Conan.


Should I bite the bullet and buy into Conan Exiles now?  Or will it be another EA flop that burns everyone out before the game even launches?

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  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    I've never played a survival game before.  No idea if I'll like the genre.
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    Dude keep talking about that tea-bagging action and you're really going to get me going!


    I don't know about Ark or Rust.  I take it they suck??
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    DMKano said:
    Xodic said:
    It sounds like you're going to buy it eventually either way. You may as well go ahead and get it. I was waiting for this game also, but from all of the research I have done this game has Ark's game play and Rust's community. I would personally rather coat my balls in sugar and tea-bag an ant bed.

    As an Ark player - Conan in current EA iteration doesn't have the features nor polish.

    If you are just looking for a better survival game for the money *right now* and had to chose between ARK and Conan - ARK without a question.

    Isn't Ark the one that is buttfondling players by charging for an expansion pack while still in early access?
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    edited February 2017
    Conan Exiles might be a really good game 1-2 years from now on, or it might turn out to be crap that's left unfinished and unpolished because developing it further wouldn't make any profit.

    At this point no-one will know how the game eventually turns out to be, and unless you're a fan of the survival genre it's better to wait and see instead of jumping into a early access game that has a lot of problems and lacks content.
     
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    edited February 2017
    DMKano said:
    Xodic said:
    It sounds like you're going to buy it eventually either way. You may as well go ahead and get it. I was waiting for this game also, but from all of the research I have done this game has Ark's game play and Rust's community. I would personally rather coat my balls in sugar and tea-bag an ant bed.

    As an Ark player - Conan in current EA iteration doesn't have the features nor polish.

    If you are just looking for a better survival game for the money *right now* and had to chose between ARK and Conan - ARK without a question.

    Isn't Ark the one that is buttfondling players by charging for an expansion pack while still in early access?
    Yes, but it's still one of the best online surivival games available, especially if you care about graphics. There are other survival games out there, but usually they've either got graphics that are at best equal to Minecraft, or are early access games that are even more unpolished and unfinished that ARK.
     
  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503
    Dunno if it still works but for http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/460698/conan-exiles-now-23-99-get-it-while-you-still-can#latest

    I guess its ok, im just waiting for stable servers and some more improvements. Imo you cant compare it with ark, dinos vs tameables human npcs and conan world is brutal:P



  • DarLorkarDarLorkar Member UncommonPosts: 1,082
    Watch some streams or let's plays of each game from the start of a game.  Still the next best way to see how a game is, other than playing it yourself. 

    Not just 5 minutes though...watch a couple hours ...if you can not stand to watch that long, then that is your answer.
  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092
    I've never played a survival game before.  No idea if I'll like the genre.
    If you like both Conan and (pen-n-paper) RPGs, then a survival game in the Conan world might be just the thing for you. Don't forget that Conan already kinda is a survival setting by itself ;-)

    ...note - didn't play or buy this game, but I'm a great (pen-n-paper) lover myself and like a lot of fantasy survival games...
  • MedflashMedflash Member UncommonPosts: 3
    If you play now, you risk ruining the experience for yourself. I'm having to shelf the game for the time being, it just has too many issues to overlook. It needs a good amount of polish and is missing features as someone above stated. I still feel positive about Conan Exiles, but the game needs lots of improvement before it can really be enjoyed by most people, in my opinion. 
  • Po_ggPo_gg Member EpicPosts: 5,749
    I don't play (too steamy for me and Joel said no chance for a non-steamy release :wink: ) so can't reflect on that part. But since I plan to buy the barbarian edition later ( =when on sale), so for these parts I can:
    Some friends and I are about to start a weekly pen and paper game in the Conan world, Savage Worlds ruleset.  I read Conan comics and have read some of the books.  
    If you like p&p, you can play Conan instead, the barbarian has the core book in pdf (but you can buy it separately, or in print later, http://www.modiphius.com/conan.html ). True, I don't know Savage Worlds, some say it's pretty flexible. Also true, I have only vague knowledge aboud 2d20 as well :lol:  but I admit the videos were quite convincing.

    Comics are fine (barbarian ed. has a few digital prints as well) but you really should read the books. Just sayin' :wink:
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I love the Conan world.  Some friends and I are about to start a weekly pen and paper game in the Conan world, Savage Worlds ruleset.  I read Conan comics and have read some of the books.  The 80s movies are the best.  I love Conan.


    Should I bite the bullet and buy into Conan Exiles now?  Or will it be another EA flop that burns everyone out before the game even launches?
    100% depends on the money/profits and that is why EVERYONE is using the early access tags.
    These devs no longer want to risk a full investment,so they give you the basics and if all goes great,they continue to add-on to the game and make it better.

    IMO right this minute the game is not worth it,but that is me ,i want a full fledged game with lots to do.However i watched a female player doing nothing but build her hut and she was happy as pigs in ....well you know.Point being ,different strokes for different eye pokes :P

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    edited February 2017
    Enjoying the early access. It definitely has a lot of bugs, but for the first few days, it's been a pretty great experience. To compare Ark's feature list to this game isn't really fair at all. Ark's "early access" is coming up on 2 years now. So yes, it has a ton more features.. and even though the games are similar in a lot of ways, the Conan theme is awesome. If dealing with bugs is too frustrating for you, then I'd recommend giving it a few weeks. Funcom is patching like crazy, and will most likely have it ironed out soon.
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    There are other ways to try the game for "free" in single player mode if you want to give it a try before buying.

  • JackMackJackMack Member UncommonPosts: 21
    *disclaimer-I only have played the local solo campaign, I have not tried the co/op servers.

        I swore to never try another EA game again long ago and never regretted it. I tried this for no reason I can express, really, I actually told myself several times, "Nope, not gonna do it"...the hype train started rolling and still "nope. holding strong bruh"  and then the EA game came out for for some damn reason I still cant explain I bought it. $29.99 to beta test a gawd-damn game. Someone shoot me.
        I dont know why...I have resisted hundreds if not thousands of EA games...I got burned twice in early 2013 and said never again, and proudly stuck to it...stupid EA crapfest-tacular titles that never get updated or leave EA...or sell DLC before they leave EA...and yet, for some reason I cant explain I clicked that damnably easy to click buy button and bought this one.  Maybe it was the "Conan", I did love R.E. Howard's pulp classics tales and Arnold...at least the first one, not so much the second or the Jason Mamoa remake...

       Stupid...stupid...stupid... 
    And then...

       I had fun playing it. Again, this is just the local solo, not the messed up cluster-fuck that Multiplayer is currently (Last I read they shut down the official servers due to shitty performance to try and find a new provider...IMHO good on Funcom for trying to fix the issue quickly).  In solo, I found a rather fun sandbox. I had no instruction...no tutorials or hand holding...just a quick voice over (which you have to shoose to find and click, nothing makes you find and click) that says you're cursed, the lands cursed, and it's gonna suck for you, good luck.  I played for about 8 hours just building a string of houses near food and water...never finding any "main quest" stuff... then I re-rolled, and took 1 left turn where there was no reason to take a left turn and so a terribly animated( as in not animated at all) character named "Some random ass name" Wanderer who explained a good deal of lore...there was no reason for me to turn that way, no reason not to...just was luck of the choice to turn right or left...

        Another disclaimer-I loved the atmosphere and questing in The Secret World, but I quit playing it after the 2nd world due to the combat...so far the combat is no better...maybe worse...but it is early access.

    Here are my Cons:
        Horrible combat system and animation. Just hack, strafe, hack, and try not to barf when the terrible animations remind you of Morrowind. And not the awesome feeling of Morrowind, I am referring to the first time you played in 2003 and switched to 3rd person and said, "Ok, so first person it is, cause, damn, just, damn..." This type of uggo animation is why I stopped playing TSW.
         As someone who has been burned by EA before I am left holding a double edged sword- A. Funcom bails on this and what I have now is all I get, or B. Funcom listens to their user-base and provides regular bug fix/updates which wipe my progress...not sure how many times I want to re-roll

         By all accounts the multiplayer is absolutely screwed.  Lag issues, crashes, plus if the maps from solo to multi-player are the same I can see a lot of resource bottle-necks, which could be fun in PVP servers, or a complete nightmare if not balanced out somehow.  And I would hate to see the beach on an official server with a ton of half finished houses from people who started, and then logged out.


    Here are my Pros
       No instruction, no guidance other than a "Word Wall", which says "Stay on the road"  You could miss this all-together very easily, and never know you did. And the road disappears pretty fast, so the Word Wall really aint much help.

       Everything you have and can get is based on what you can make (or have thralls you capture make for you). You literally start off naked crucified on a cross. And depending on the server you choose or your local settings you may well be completely naked altogether to start the game.

       Funcom?-Yeah I know this is the prime reason not to buy for most...but if you look at  the amount of content they pumped out for TSW despite their lack of a substantial player base, you really cant fault their commitment to the game (though you may wish to fault the execution).

    All things considered, I am having fun...so I am happy.   How long this will last, well, we will see.  

    Having full frontal nudity with boob and don physics doesn't hurt, but we gonna need more for this to last.

       
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    edited February 2017
    Most companies treat early-access as not a phase, but an alternate reality. So far the bigger names (Shroud of the Avatar, Landmark, H1Z1, etc.) proved to be worse than the smaller dev teams. So I'm not sure where Funcom would fit in all this.

    If you want to stay on the safe side you should wait for a couple of months at least so we can measure Funcom's dedication to progression and perfection.

    I didn't wait, because I have kind of gotten used to the other side they have even named a planet after me. But I haven't been able to play the game in its current state yet. And now there are no servers. Only if I could join MMORPG.COM server...
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    I want to buy this too but right now I think playing alone would become boring fast but I have no stomach for fighting over resources even on a PvE server. I know that sounds bad like I am loath to take on confrontations but may be the whole survival thing is simply not something I can reasonably enjoy. On the other hand I want to try. Oh the dilemma !

  • JackMackJackMack Member UncommonPosts: 21
    edited February 2017
    kitarad said:
    I want to buy this too but right now I think playing alone would become boring fast but I have no stomach for fighting over resources even on a PvE server. I know that sounds bad like I am loath to take on confrontations but may be the whole survival thing is simply not something I can reasonably enjoy. On the other hand I want to try. Oh the dilemma !
    For what it is worth, I have found solid mob diversity so far compared to other EA games...and the human NPCs seem to be leveled by area so you run into a consistent challenge.  For the record there is an area where the hyena's are stupid dense, but you can pull them 1 by 1 if you are careful...and there are these Moa/Ostrich birds that are straight coked out of their damn minds...I am ok with getting pulled apart by hyena's...that's their job...but getting my ass beat by a damn big bird is somewhat immersion breaking. I mean, I am supposed to be this Hyborean ass kicker, right? Illusion shattered...
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    JackMack said:
    kitarad said:
    I want to buy this too but right now I think playing alone would become boring fast but I have no stomach for fighting over resources even on a PvE server. I know that sounds bad like I am loath to take on confrontations but may be the whole survival thing is simply not something I can reasonably enjoy. On the other hand I want to try. Oh the dilemma !
    For what it is worth, I have found solid mob diversity so far compared to other EA games...and the human NPCs seem to be leveled by area so you run into a consistent challenge.  For the record there is an area where the hyena's are stupid dense, but you can pull them 1 by 1 if you are careful...and there are these Moa/Ostrich birds that are straight coked out of their damn minds...I am ok with getting pulled apart by hyena's...that's their job...but getting my ass beat by a damn big bird is somewhat immersion breaking. I mean, I am supposed to be this Hyborean ass kicker, right? Illusion shattered...
    You make me want to play it even more now....grrr

  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 1,545
    edited February 2017
    JackMack said:
    kitarad said:
    I want to buy this too but right now I think playing alone would become boring fast but I have no stomach for fighting over resources even on a PvE server. I know that sounds bad like I am loath to take on confrontations but may be the whole survival thing is simply not something I can reasonably enjoy. On the other hand I want to try. Oh the dilemma !
    For what it is worth, I have found solid mob diversity so far compared to other EA games...and the human NPCs seem to be leveled by area so you run into a consistent challenge.  For the record there is an area where the hyena's are stupid dense, but you can pull them 1 by 1 if you are careful...and there are these Moa/Ostrich birds that are straight coked out of their damn minds...I am ok with getting pulled apart by hyena's...that's their job...but getting my ass beat by a damn big bird is somewhat immersion breaking. I mean, I am supposed to be this Hyborean ass kicker, right? Illusion shattered...
    Go punch an ostrich in real life.  See how long you live.

    Don't sue me for what happens if you do this.
  • BellomoBellomo Member UncommonPosts: 184
    Just buy it you have nothing better to do with $30 anyways. Don't be so cheap. :)
  • rodarinrodarin Member EpicPosts: 2,611
    Survival is a misnomer anyway. Theyre basically mini RPG games with attrition/decay. "Surviving'' isnt all that difficult in any of them especially after you learn the basics.

    Basically they dont have auto regen (for health anyway or at least not in a way 'traditional' MMOs have it happen). Which is something Conan could have done. Stamina in this game is far more important than health and if they wanted to actually make it a 'survival' game they wouldnt let it regen automatically. Especially not let it regen as fast as it does by simply 'crouching'. 

    Then of course there is swimming that doesnt drain stamina at all and allows you to attack forever. But that is more than likely a bug.
  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    edited February 2017
    I got Conan for $22.  Here's my honest opinion:

    1)  Took way too long to find my guilds server.  WAY to long.  Then bugs between Steam and the game caused all sorts of issues (like "wrong password").  Now that I got it working, it works right every time.

    2)  Dumps you.  I kind of like this, I kind of wish they'd give you a shove in the direction.  For example, some spawns have a water skin.  Others, I can't find the water skin anywhere.

    3)  I haven't noticed a real increase/decrease in danger the further you explore.  I was under the impression that like "Ark" the further afield you went, the more dangerous it got.  Here I could be seeing a baddie that just smashes me early on right from the get go.

    4)  Disappearing items.  I crafted 60 arrows for my bow.  Log back in, and 1 is left.  Meat, if I have a stack of 8, and put a stack of 2 on there, well 4 disappear leaving a stack of 6.  What the heck?  That math is wrong.  Nothing worse than working your butt off to have things go MIA.

    5)  I wish every cave wasn't corruption.  Especially since the "mass" of caves I've found are all in that Hyena breeding ground mentioned above.  Nothing worse than having killed 4 Hyenas only to have a group of 3 respawn and murder you.
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