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Seriously, how dumber can the dev's get?

BahkBahk Member Posts: 259

I was recently looking at some of their excuses etc for downtime.. what a load of SHIT. Our servers are currently being hacked by hundreds of people, we have been having power problems within our office areas for the past 5 days, that will be in next month, the release date IS IN APRIL thats ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW, BETA WILL BE BACK.

they are fools and DNL sucks nuff said, their mmorpg has shit the bed in everyway and come release the fanboys will cry.

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  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529


    Originally posted by Bahk

    I was recently looking at some of their excuses etc for downtime.. what a load of SHIT. Our servers are currently being hacked by hundreds of people, we have been having power problems within our office areas for the past 5 days, that will be in next month, the release date IS IN APRIL thats ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW, BETA WILL BE BACK.
    they are fools and DNL sucks nuff said, their mmorpg has shit the bed in everyway and come release the fanboys will cry.


    the fanboys all think that people are itching to get their hands on DnL

    They don't understand that anyone who hasn't already purchased DnL won't touch the game with a 30 foot pole without some reputable game review

  • MaldachMaldach Member Posts: 399
    Dumb and Dumberer?
  • tsr57tsr57 Member Posts: 187
    They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiot here?
  • tsr57tsr57 Member Posts: 187
    They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiots here?
  • tsr57tsr57 Member Posts: 187
    They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiots here?
  • PhifePhife Member Posts: 229


    Originally posted by tsr57
    They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiots here?

    That depends if you bought a copy or not.  Me?  No, I did not as I have > 2 brain cells..

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  • qotsaqotsa Member UncommonPosts: 835


    Originally posted by tsr57
    They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiots here?

    Was that before they had to give all those refunds out? Meh, I was kinda excited for this game. But I've seen too many bad things happen with it the past however lng I've followed it. As a person that has at least tried the majority of these games, I can honestly say I will never touch the game. I'm not going to slam the game as I've never played it. But it will have to be out a bit and have very good reviews before I spend money there. My personal prediction is it won't release...or if it does it will flop.

    Some people think there is going to be a completely different game come release. But I seriously don't see that happeneing. Why would a company with resources that limited piss around with a far inferior version of their own game? All the while getting bad press about it. Makes no sense to me. If it really is part of the evil plan they should fire their marketing department, because they've scared too many people away.
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321


    Originally posted by tsr57
    They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiots here?

    Anyone that bought one.

    I miss DAoC



  • Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by tsr57
    They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiots here?
    Anyone that bought one.

    hmmm, to me, its a toss-up. A tie. sure, ppl bought it, i did and still have it but how many refunded and caused refund charges that farlan had to pay? when you use a third party processor, there are charges for every single transaction, including a refund charge, So not only did thousands refund, they had to pay each of those thousands of refund charges to c&b.  They still made a little money, but hardly anything to cover and keep them going. so they came back with a $40 pkg. People still refunding tho.....
  • AlouisiousAlouisious Member Posts: 201
    Aye and the refund is still valid if the game does not release, or the game is unplayable in industry standards, meaning 99.9% uptime and able to log in , and able to log into a character you have created, able to actually move around and play as intended, etc. etc. According to the credit card companies, I have up to two years to request a refund, so even if Farlan keeps saying "at a later date", to get past what some are saying is a probationary period (which doesnt exist in US purchases) of 90 days , I could, altho LOL obviously i wouldnt, but I could still request and receive a refund.
  • JelloB2000JelloB2000 Member CommonPosts: 1,848

    Originally posted by Alouisious
    (...)Farlan keeps saying "at a later date", to get past what some are saying is a probationary period (which doesnt exist in US purchases) of 90 days , I could, altho LOL obviously i wouldnt, but I could still request and receive a refund.
    Farlas words on restricted refunds are just fantasies, law is always above written contracts & that means the major card companys (VISA/Mastercard/e.t.c) will give a refund/reverse charges.

    Does anyone know where Farlan is registered?
    (Because if its a country in the EU they will get into trouble because the limitation/refusal on refunds is against EU-law).

  • LOL apparently their is NO bottom line to thier own stupidity! They have even sent SOG screenshots for the mmorpg.com DNL screenshot review!!!!

    but but but .....SOG is NOT DNL!

    DNL is completely different than SOG!

    DNL is better than SOG, what? are you all that stupid? Why do you insist on saying that SOG=DNL?

    We send you SOG screenshots for the DNL screenshot review because,...because...because SOG is NOT DNL!!!

  • FraekFraek Member Posts: 249


    Originally posted by LilBoPeep

    LOL apparently their is NO bottom line to thier own stupidity! They have even sent SOG screenshots for the mmorpg.com DNL screenshot review!!!!
    but but but .....SOG is NOT DNL!
    DNL is completely different than SOG!
    DNL is better than SOG, what? are you all that stupid? Why do you insist on saying that SOG=DNL?
    We send you SOG screenshots for the DNL screenshot review because,...because...because SOG is NOT DNL!!!


    Exactly.  Settlers of Ganareth runs on a completely different engine than Dark and Light.  The code for Settlers of Ganareth was written by a million monkeys with 600,000 typewriters (it's stupid to give each monkey its own typewriter - it's not like they can type 24-7 without ever gtting naps or banana breaks), and it's really nothing more than a "fun" mini-game.
    The myth that Dark and Light has been developed by twenty frenchmen since 1999 is false.  It started that way, but since then it has been bought up by some Origin-refugees backed up by 200 Japanese coders, fifty German professors in cognition in charge of AI five lorewriters working together with five concept artists.  They are coupled as follows:
    Gary Gygax is teamed up with John Bauer, Dan Brown is teamed up with John Langdon, John Robert Reuel Tolkien will be working with John Blanche, Herman Melville will be working on quests along with artist John Davis and Siddharta Gautama will design a pantheon with illustrations by John the Baptist.
    There is support for Bino and Cool's VR-cube, but Ken Kutaragi has also implemented support for TrackIR, head-mounted monitors, control gloves and force feedback vests, so get ready for the VR-experience of a lifetime!
  • ohhhhhh yummy cant wait!!!!

    still think the thread with this video shows what the DNL team is all about:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7521044027821122670

  • AphexAphex Member Posts: 194

    Originally posted by tsr57

    They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiot here?
    Farlan, since a 5+ year long software project with a decent sized will run in the millions on costs.
  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045


    Originally posted by Aphex

    Originally posted by tsr57 They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiot here?
    Farlan, since a 5+ year long software project with a decent sized will run in the millions on costs.


    Actually it's a 3.5 going onto 4 year project, started in mid 02

    But I agree that Farlan must be real idiots to just stop at 0.5 million, if all they intended was to make a lot of money.

  • ZippyZippy Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,412

    Originally posted by Aphex

    Originally posted by tsr57 They managed to sell 9,000 copies at $60 each. Who are the real idiot here?
    Farlan, since a 5+ year long software project with a decent sized will run in the millions on costs.

    Farlan formed and announced the game in the summer of 2002.  We can only speculate when development started.  Most games start their development 1-2 years prior to announcing the game and forming a development company.  Given that the first official release date was scheduled for December of 2002 its most like development was strated in 1999 or 2000. 

    Most likely it has been in development 6-7 years despite what the fanboys might say.  But regardless of how long the game has been in development what is most remarkable is the utter lack of work that has been done.  This game is no closer to a stable release with limited content now than it was when Beta started 3 years ago. 

  • it was all they needed to get the backing in a much more confident frame of mind.the chinese dont give a rats patootie what happens in the western world as they have their rights to the game as it will be in china. I would say it turned out to be a small number much to thier benefit as the reverse charges having to be anted up by Farlan must have cost a hunk of change in the refunds alone.
  • AlouisiousAlouisious Member Posts: 201
    heh Dream Team there Freak lol. I would imagine also that if the release is a total failure, the team as-is wont be putting all these years experience on thier resumes. Hard to imagine anyone claiming they were a part of it if they wish to continue successfully in the biz. Its a small world out in developer country.
  • HAH! Can you imagine lookin for an experienced game developer only to have one of their resumes come across your desk??????LOL
  • does seem kinda strange that that many hackers hack something and you never hear anything about it at all , even in the local papers over there! WOW Nor was there any news forthcoming about the most recent power outtages they claim to have had there. One of the posters here lives near there and tried to find out anything and was told there was nothing like that going on.
  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    Wellll lesseee, how much dumber??

    One week till release and still no info whatsoever.

    One week till release and no confirmation of closing SOG and opening of DNL.

    One week till release and no confirmation of exactly who (pioneers and preebies) gets the 2 day jump (like THATS gonna happen LOL)

    One week and still no class skills as promised weeks ago

    One week and man alive, I hope my bulk popcorn and sodas get here in time.

  • IKShadowIKShadow Member UncommonPosts: 783

    Cant get as dumb as people who dont even care about it and still regulary check out offical page for info and moreover troll about it on other forums.

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • JelloB2000JelloB2000 Member CommonPosts: 1,848


    Originally posted by IKShadow
    words
    Well the moderators on mmorpg.com apparently agree that is not the case (since not many posts have been moderated/deleted). Although I have seen lots of your posts getting deleted in this very forum sub-section, what does that tell us?
  • ZippyZippy Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,412


    Originally posted by IKShadow

    Cant get as dumb as people who dont even care about it and still regulary check out offical page for info and moreover troll about it on other forums.


    I think we have quite a different opinion of the word troll.  NPC Farlan and your definition seems to be ayone that talks negatively about DnL is a troll.  Most peoples definition is someone who posts without substance, reasoning, logic or who engages in personal attacks.  Like most fanboys your last post comes under the generally accepted definition of trolling.

    The fanboys here and on the official forums are the only ones who are trolls.  They do not want to discuss the game as they cannot make any substantive or logical arguments to support thier opinion that the game is any good.  Rather they just resort to insults, name calling, blind faith and telling fans to love it or leave it.  The critics here are the only ones that engage in discussion.  They are the only ones that support conclusions, with facts, citations, analysis, logic and comparisons to other games.  The critics here have continously recorded and documented Farlans lies and failures.  They have accurately predicted all of DnL's failures despite all the juvenile and repetitive insults, name calling and pesonal attacks by fanboys.  They do this without the need to personally attack or insult others which seems to be a prerequisite to being a fanboy. 

    The sad thing is the critics are for the most part are fans of what DnL could have been.  Like myself most of the critics or realists have been following DnL for 2-4 years generally much longer than the fanboys.  Because they disagree with your opinions they should get lost and they should not be allowed to post?  Only positive glowing if not unrealstic posts should be allowed?  Only people who are wise enough to share your opinion should be allowed to post? In fact these people should not even be allowed to check the official web site or even follow the game at all anymore? That appears to be what your saying. 

    I don't mean anything personal.  I have noticed that for the most part you have posted here in a somewhat neutral tone for a fanboy. But your recent posts seem to have displed a lot of hostility or maybe you have somehow been effected by the anger and hatred the fanboys show to disbelievers on the official forum. 

    In conclusion your comment above added nothing to the discussion and continued your recent trend of  attacking and insulting other posters here.  In other words your post falls within the generally accepted defintion of trolling.

    Edit:  I just read through your recent 5 or so post spree.  Where you have called other people trolls, attacked the forums, attacked other members here and you have said you intend to change your posting style to be more belligerent and attacking.  I can only assume that since you have nothing you can add to the discussion or have no way to support any arguments you make that DnL is good that you have changed your intentions to derail every thread so there is no discussion.  You are attemtping to flame bait every thread to muddy up the forums so people will not be able to read the truth about DnL prior to release.  Farlan couldn't ask for any greater dedication and effort from one of its servants.


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