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Upgrade time! best bang for buck?

B14cKs0LB14cKs0L Member UncommonPosts: 152
Current sys:

Intel Core i5 3470

Memory Type            DDR3
Memory Size            8 GBytes
Channels            Dual
Memory Frequency        800.7 MHz (1:6)
CAS# latency (CL)        9.0

Motherboard: GA-Z77X-D3H

Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 OC
Memory size        4 GB
Memory type        GDDR5

Where should I spend my Money?

Thanks!





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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    If you don't already have an SSD, then you should get one.  Depending on your monitor configuration, an additional monitor or a better one might be a worthy upgrade.

    The hardware you list could still be the base of a capable gaming rig.  I don't see any need to upgrade your CPU, GPU, or memory unless you've run into situations where what you have just isn't good enough anymore.  And in that case, what to do depends tremendously on your budget.
  • B14cKs0LB14cKs0L Member UncommonPosts: 152
    Also I have a liquid cooling system but never OC my cpu. Is that a option Vs a new cpu?
  • B14cKs0LB14cKs0L Member UncommonPosts: 152
    Quizzical said:
    If you don't already have an SSD, then you should get one.  Depending on your monitor configuration, an additional monitor or a better one might be a worthy upgrade.

    The hardware you list could still be the base of a capable gaming rig.  I don't see any need to upgrade your CPU, GPU, or memory unless you've run into situations where what you have just isn't good enough anymore.  And in that case, what to do depends tremendously on your budget.


    I do have a 500gig SSD main drive I run my OS and current games I play. I have a 2t back up drive I install all BS programs on and use for storage.

    Budget is 600ish CAD funds.

    Just feel like my RAM is slow.
    CPU I could OC
    Video card? 980?

    Was it your system where would you spend the cash?
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    I don't see any reason to get a new CPU unless the one you have now isn't fast enough.  Are there games where you struggle for lack of CPU performance?

    If you do want a new CPU, you should wait for AMD Ryzen, which is coming in early March.  I'm not saying that you should definitely get Ryzen, as you'd obviously want to see just how good it is before making a decision, but it should make the market more competitive than it has been in years.
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    B14cKs0L said:
    Also I have a liquid cooling system but never OC my cpu. Is that a option Vs a new cpu?
    You have a locked processor, there may be ways around it, but typically, it won't overclock too well.

    That being said, the new CPUs aren't all that much faster, so not really any bang for the buck upgrading the CPU.

    SSD, like Quiz said. 

    You can get faster GPUs, but if your gaming at 1080p already, it won't be a huge jump. 

    Going up to 16G of RAM won't hurt, but I doubt you'd notice the difference terribly much.

    Honestly, SSD is easily the best bang for the buck for any system that doesn't already have one. Past that your rig is in a good spot - it may be a good time to look at monitor or audio upgrades. A monitor upgrade may want a new video card if you up the monitor to 2k or 144Hz or better, but if your at 1080p, the 960 you have now is capable. It won't max max every title, but you'd be really hard pressed to find something it can't play well.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    B14cKs0L said:
    Quizzical said:
    If you don't already have an SSD, then you should get one.  Depending on your monitor configuration, an additional monitor or a better one might be a worthy upgrade.

    The hardware you list could still be the base of a capable gaming rig.  I don't see any need to upgrade your CPU, GPU, or memory unless you've run into situations where what you have just isn't good enough anymore.  And in that case, what to do depends tremendously on your budget.


    I do have a 500gig SSD main drive I run my OS and current games I play. I have a 2t back up drive I install all BS programs on and use for storage.

    Budget is 600ish CAD funds.

    Just feel like my RAM is slow.
    CPU I could OC
    Video card? 980?

    Was it your system where would you spend the cash?
    No, don't get a GTX 980 today.  If that's the performance tier you're after, get a newer card like a Radeon RX 480 or a GeForce GTX 1060.  Though I generally advise against buying a new video card unless you at least double the performance of your old card, which would mean you'd need something faster like a GTX 1070.
  • B14cKs0LB14cKs0L Member UncommonPosts: 152
    edited February 2017
    Is the 980 or even the 980TI not faster than a1070?

    So should I hold on to my cash, what should be my next upgrade best bang for buck?

    And thanks for all the info.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    B14cKs0L said:
    Is the 980 or even the 980TI not faster than a1070?

    So should I hold on to my cash, what should be my next upgrade best bang for buck?

    And thanks for all the info.
    No, it's not.  A GTX 1070 is commonly faster than a (Maxwell-based) Titan X.

    Don't upgrade until you have some reason to upgrade.  If you're getting as high of frame rates as your monitor can display at the settings you like in the games you play, there's nothing to gain from an upgrade.  Only if your current computer isn't fast enough is there a point to upgrading, and if that happens, the particular problem should guide the upgrade path.
  • B14cKs0LB14cKs0L Member UncommonPosts: 152
    Ok thanks man! Cheers!
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    1060 (6G) roughly equals a 980 (and slightly faster than an RX480 on average)

    1070 roughly equals a 980Ti

    Pascal (10xx series) does better in DX12 than Maxwell (900 series) did, if you are looking for a tiebreaker.
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited February 2017
    RX480 8GB is faster than GTX1060 and costs less, RX480 4GB can be had for 180$ and is ~GTX980 speed and is by far best bang for buck (along with RX470).

    1060 (6GB) costs 240+ $ so its really no brainer that RX480 is miles ahead of GTX1060. Performance/price is something NVidia just cant compete in.

    Current NVidia cards dont have proper hardware DX12/Vulkan support ("Pascal" is basically just shrunken down Maxwell with higher clocks, if you could clock your 960 to ~1,9 GHz you would have 1060) and lose performance in every single DX12/Vulkan title, thats something to consder when buying GPU today as pretty much every new AAA title in 2016. already had DX12//Vulkan (and even some older titles)

    For instance, The Division got DX12 treatment and RX480 is far ahead of GTX1060 when they were on par in DX11. Now GTX1070 is only 10% faster than RX1480 in The Division. And thats what youll get going forward with DX12/Vulkan (RX480 is almost on par with GTX1070 in Doom with Vulkan)

    If you ask yourself "why do i want DX12/Vulkan"...main reason is that they make much better use of your CPU AND you get quite substantial performance improvements on GPUs that actually support DX12/Vulkan.

    And caveat is that GTX1070 (which is a bit slower that GTX980ti) is just 30% faster than RX480 but costs ~400$, more than double price for 30% performance and lack of proper DX12/Vulkan support.

    You have tests done in 2017. here






    For your CPU, youre fine as far as you dont want more cores on your CPU, and for that you should definitely wait to see what AMD Ryzen has to offer as its just around the corner. The way all the leaks/rumors are shaping up....it will blow away Intel in bang for buck.




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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    Just waiting for filmoret's defense of Intel & nVidia and this thread will be complete.
  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    We're missing someone "representing" qualcomm and imagination technologies, preferable with "concrete proof" that either or both have overtaken prehistoric x86 and similar dinosaur technologies.
  • centkincentkin Member RarePosts: 1,527
    Welcome to the tech doldrums of the present.  Do you want the red or blue pill?
  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,141
    i74790K 4GHz
    980 GTX

  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    The gtx 1060 is a huge boost over what you currently have and doesn't require any more power draw.  The 980 is a power hog and costs a ton of money.  You would be better off with the 1070 for the same price which performs better then the 980 and uses less power.

    RX 480 isnt a bad choice either but it will use as much power as the 1070.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Given the liquid cooling you have then overclocking the cpu is definitely something to try.  Its not that simple however but you can read about it here.  They are able to get it to boost to 4ghz.

    http://www.overclock.net/t/1322812/overclocking-i5-3470-to-4ghz
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Nothing on the list seems to need an upgrade, so maybe getting a new 2K or 4K screen if you don't have one?
     A mechanical keyboard is also a good upgrade if you don't already own one.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    When will the new Radeon cards come out ? So when can we expect a price drop on the Nvidia cards ?

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    Ridelynn said:
    Just waiting for filmoret's defense of Intel & nVidia and this thread will be complete.
    No, you should post more how 1060 is faster than 480....probably make your own made up benchmarks too to "prove it"

    oh no, i forgot,

    "I do not have to post proof." HURR DURR


    #1 - Welcome back to the forum

    #2http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1748?vs=1771  Not saying it proves anything, everyone can draw their own conclusions there.

    #3 - Have a nice Valentine's Day.
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    I'm sorry, where were your relevant benchmarks again?
  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    kitarad said:
    When will the new Radeon cards come out ? So when can we expect a price drop on the Nvidia cards ?
    The only time you can expect a drop in card prices, and especially nvidia is a couple of months before the new cards launch (not competition cards, but of the same company xD), and for black friday. 
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    13lake said:
    kitarad said:
    When will the new Radeon cards come out ? So when can we expect a price drop on the Nvidia cards ?
    The only time you can expect a drop in card prices, and especially nvidia is a couple of months before the new cards launch (not competition cards, but of the same company xD), and for black friday. 
    Thank you for giving me a useful reply instead of the other drivel.

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    Ridelynn said:
    I'm sorry, where were your relevant benchmarks again?
    you mean like these



    and these



    you should go see a doctor, you memory is clearly failing, have you bumped your head lately?


    No I just wanted to see if you would go through the trouble of posting crappy youtube videos again that don't really show much.

    I'll admit. I didn't watch them the first time you posted. Because videos of benchmarks suck. And I still haven't watched them. If they can take the time to lay out graphs in a nice, easy to read format, I'd love to take a look at them and compare them to the research I've done.

    But they haven't. And you haven't.

    Happy <3 Day.
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    For me it's about price to performance.  If you're looking between the 1060 and the 480, what I believe is that you just go with what you find a better deal on.

    I found a better deal on the 1060, and the performance increase of the 480 was negligible enough for the cost savings.   If you're only saving like.. 10 dollars or so, no big deal.. but I was able to get a 50 dollar drop on the 1060 in comparison to the 480.




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