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I don't sub, but I buy the DLC, and plan on the expansion. I like the B2P model personally.
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i would agree if the "morrowind" zone would be the same as the existing zones. but i've read (can anyone confirm that??) that the morrowind zone is the actual size (1:1) of the morrowind standalone game? i mean.. that's massive!
and also that you will still receive dlc's with your subscription after the morrowind chapter (3 dlc's a year?)
i do understand the cash shop hate though.. i really really dislike it too. it's an ever increasing thing in mmo's though
I don't want to ever pay a sub for any game. I find far more value in spending that money on a costume, or DLC, or piece of content I'll have forever on all of my characters - not fleeting benefits that I may not even make full use of that month. I want to pick and choose when I support them and have the freedom of coming and going from a game as my playtime allows without losing on potential benefits and features because I haven't subbed.
One of ESO's initial attractions was it's B2P nature but for the past year they've been pushing the subscription more and more. All they're doing is pushing me further and further away. It's very disappointing. ZOS needs to stop being so money hungry and be more customer friendly. We're willing to stick around and we're willing to give you money, but let it be on OUR terms. We're tired of P2P games and we told all of you game devs that years ago. WAKE UP and listen for once.
I do appreciate, especially here, where i get a monthly allowance for cash shop items, which again from my past it may as well not even be there, super rare for me to even open the cash shop lol, and even more rare i'd buy anything so the crowns in this case only pile up over time, but... sometimes something comes along and i'll be like yep i'd like that and have the crowns to get it at no extra cost to me outside my monthly sub. Which is nice.
Oh and Great Article, Thanks!
As far as the Sub, Crown, DLC, Chapter, Money thing goes:
You buy Crowns with Money
You buy Morrowind expansion with Money
Crowns are sold by Zenimax
Morrowind expansion is sold by Zenimax
The bottom line is:
Zenimax is not happy with my spending of $15 per month. They want more.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
all the dlc's can be bought, the new chapter can (must) be bought. you pay once and then you have them for no more sub fee.
even if you sub once, they don't grab your character and hold it prison until you pay again. you can just unsub and still play, you just lose the ability to put something INSIDE the crafting bag (you can still take out the stuff you put in).
eso and poe are the only free / non-sub games i really like the payment model.
I was saving my stockpiled crowns from ESO+ for housing but I'm underwhelmed by the housing features. So in the end I also just bought the DLC like you did.
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I would never sub.to ESO again. Logging in to the game is like RNG. Maybe you get in maybe not. And it get worse with every update.
Me nor any of my guildmates (Very spread out, one being in Germany, One in the airforce in Korea, another in Finland and myself and a buddy in the states) have no issues whatsoever getting into the game.
I'm thinking it's issues on your side. Old router?
I think if they would have included "Chapters" in a subscription, exactly like they have with the DLC. They could have increased their subscriber base substantially. It takes less than 3 months of sub for Zenimax to offset the $40.00
They could have made a sub more appealing instead of less.
To think that before the RNG box bullshit I was praising them for having the best consumer freindly business model in the Industry.
A little success sure changes things.
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The disposable income has never been an issue. It has always been about whether or not I feel that value is gained by spending my money. In the case of ESO, $15/month is an easy decision, even if I only play a few days per month. You get crowns to spend, valued at $12/month (I will just stick to Robert's math here). So I am essentially spending $3/month for quality of life improvements. Honestly, inventory management is HUGE. The more bag space I have, the less time that I have to spend at vendors. So, what is your free time worth? I would say that $15 a month is well worth not having to hit the vendors to clean my bags every 10-15 minutes. That may just be me.
After having said all of this, I tend to always revert to the same metric... A 3 hour trip to the bar on a Saturday night will usually cost me $100-$150. I will be giving and use $100. Essentially, that is $15 every 27 minutes at that bar. So my thought on it is this: If I spend more than 27 minutes in-game per month, then I have officially gotten my money's worth. If we are looking at it from the perspective of the remaining $3 (The value after subtracting the crowns cost), then I only need to spend 5.4 minutes in-game to get my value out of it each month. Realistically, I spend 20-60 hours a month in-game, so I am definitely getting my value.
At the end of the day, it is all about what your time is worth to you.
They seem to be going into sustainability mode really. Push awesome deals for a bit to lure in a bunch of customers, then settle into a more realistic cost effective profitable future. Which we kinda have to take as it is, looking out for their interests not the consumers.
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They announced their new scheme on January 31st and by Feb. 3rd they were already in damage control mode creating a new official thread asking for new ideas for benefits of ESO+
Of course they probably had been meaning to ask us for our ideas about that for a while but just forgot.
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You win some, you lose some.
In my case, Zenimax will make 1/3 of what they used to.
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I'd be more inclined to buy skins and cosmetics. I have spent a lot in GW2 on cosmetics.
Personally, I think ESO has a great payment model. The problem is their cash shop is fairly lackluster and I have never spent a dime in it because nothing seems worth it.
I bought the gold edition, and most likely will buy the expansion.
Originally posted by Arskaaa
"when players learned tacticks in dungeon/raids, its bread".
This is their first Expansion, and like every other mmo out there you have to pay cash in the first year, when the next Expansion comes out, then you can buy the previous expansion in the cash shop.
So... those upset about not being able to use crowns, you can but you have to wait, just like every mmo out there, it's pretty much a standard, a de facto standard.
Well yeah, $15 per month per customer is so 2004.
They want to be averaging at least $25 per month by now.
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