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MightyUnclean
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Hey folks, couple of questions:
1) I remember hearing that buying and subscribing to this game could be a confusing endeavor. Maybe multiple websites involved, or something? Is this still the case?
2) I suck at moving and attacking at the same time. Is there a combat class that is mostly stationary and has a pretty simple rotation? I like to DPS, no tanking or healing these days.
3) Is it too late to catch up to the high level players?
Thanks for any info!
1) I remember hearing that buying and subscribing to this game could be a confusing endeavor. Maybe multiple websites involved, or something? Is this still the case?
2) I suck at moving and attacking at the same time. Is there a combat class that is mostly stationary and has a pretty simple rotation? I like to DPS, no tanking or healing these days.
3) Is it too late to catch up to the high level players?
Thanks for any info!
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2) you can build turret classes. You don't have to cast while moving. You have to avoid fire.
3) never.
If you can see yourself enjoying the IP, based on your previous posts, I think you would enjoy this game.
I have not had to do it in a few years now but i am certain it is the same.
You have to register an account with Square Enix,then you have to register your game components with the specific game.
It used to be real bad with FFXI,so bad that even having done it several times was still painful.
As to the catch up question...
IDK if they made things easier or not,otherwise i would say you have a long journey.
Thing is this,unlike FXI that was pretty much solo until level 11 then all grouping,in FFXIV you can solo almost everything except the main story asks for Boss fights in dungeons.It has been awhile but i remember only a few of those must have boss fights,like maybe 5/6 in total until you hit level 50.
Then t 50 i quit lol,i am not into instance grind repeating in a some small ring,i prefer open world content.
Plus the game although a really nice game does something i detest in gaming>>>>Item level grinding.Forced gear to be able to advance to the next set of item level grinding over and over...NO THANKS.
That is why i would still play ffxi over this game in a heartbeat,although ffxi end game is the exact same thing,,,ilevel grinding.I have not had the desire to return to ffxiv since leaving but i did play an hour of FFXI last night matter of fact after a a little over a year away.
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2- almost all the bosses have areas u need to avoid , and mechanics , maybe try smn is ranged and the most mobile class , Machinist 2nd , blm being the class that need to stay still the most ,simple rotation is hard to say , all the classes have a rigid rotation (that varies from procs and what not but no class is "hard" imo )
3- there is a expansion coming in June , so now is the perfect time to play it and catch up , u will be on par with everyone when Stormblood goes live , they are adding QOL changes and specific Job interface (to make more easy track buffs, debuffs and procs )
yw!
Wife and I are playing XIV again and enjoying it. We actually duo ed a lot of the story dungeons as we levelled past some of them doing palace of the dead and was high enough to do so. The dungeons for the story are rather easy.
Also, the mentor system helps with people that have opened up the ability to be a mentor through achievements etc can que and are usually a lot more helpful then some random people.
You have to use the MogStation to manage your account, you can find it in the FFXIV site (Lodestone). It's pretty simple really. If you buy via Steam you will get a code and you will need to apply it in the Mogstation anyway. Some players don't like to buy via Steam because you will have to buy all future expansions there, but that's the only difference or "problem". I personally have been using Steam for a long time and it's super convenient for me because I can pay for game time and other little things with Steam Wallet.
I think Black Mage/Bard/Machinist and perhaps Red Mage (after Stormblood launch) are good choices. Rotations right now can be a bit hard for a lot of players (it's considered way harder than WoW's in most cases, just for a comparison). But it's hard to say because we'll see a lot of changes in rotations with Stormblood, their intention is to make things a little bit easier for unexperienced players. Keep in mind that I'm talking about endgame. Early game will be super easy because the Global Cooldown is long.
No, it's super easy to catch up in terms of levels and gear in this game, specially now. There is easy options available to get high level gear so everyone can be ready for Stormblood. FFXIV's subreddit is a good place to learn about the game, the daily question thread usually have 400+ posts, so you will learn a lot just by reading through.
There s nothing complex bout FF XIV so called rotations... FF xiv is a very generic and easy game masked but lots of content to do , awesome story and graphics.
I have no ideia how WOW is nowadays since u are using WOW as exemple..but "rotation" in wow vanilla is much more complex than anything in FF XIV.... Lots of players from FF xiv have no MMORPG past so maybe thats why it was created that rotation myth i believe.. coz its realy very simple compared to other games...
the monk rotation you are using as example ( which i agree is one of the most complex in game ) is still very simplistic near what we used to have in other games....
those kind of rotation was the battle foundation of any decent mmorpg... too bad it was removed in general and when a game introduce it .. its seen as "complex" . And that because before we didnt have a GLOWING sign telling u "combos" to active. The game is even telling you which button to press.... Chose that combo to this, choose that combo for that.
FF xiv will never shine for its battle imo... its totally other reasons why this game is cool. If you are used to play WOW as example, you realy dont need to worry bout ur skills or lack of it on ff xiv battles ....
the only pressure u have on FF XIV battle if you are new is to be able deal with annoying players that came from games like DOTA and D3 that cant respect other people play style....
as example u see in FF xiv forums a lot of TOPICS complaining bout HEALERS that don't DPS and sometimes the opposite... HEALERS that dps.. lol. .its a big mess of kids..
2) All classes are simple rotations in FFXIV. Some are more complex with positionals but It is basically boils down to 1 => 2 => 3 => 1 => 2 => 4 => repeat for 9-10mins with some buffs thrown inbetween, also note they are simplifying it even more in the next expansion. You can master a classes rotation in a few hours tops. As for not moving, all the major bosses at endgame have 1 shot mechanic after 1 shot mechanic that you have to dodge. All bosses also have rage mechanics which instawipe the raid if dps is too low. So you have maintain your max dps rotation while moving or everyone dies basically. All extreme primals/high tier raids utilize these 2 mechanics.
Compaired to WoW and some other AAA mmos, rotations in FFXIV are a joke to master. You will learn fast though once you get to higher levels who is clueless on the rotation because their parses will be 30-40% lower then they should be. I suggest you watch a few videos of people parsing high and copy the rotation. Every fight will use that exact rotation basically.
3) The game is designed so new players never fall behind. Every expansion all players are reset to basically 0. Top tier gear from expansion 1 becomes entree level quest gear from expansion 2 basically. Each major patch nerfs the hell out of older content before it so new players can easily catch up. So no it is extremely easy to catch up in ffxiv... but this is also a major negative if you are looking for longterm achievements and content, outside vanity gear they simply do not exist.
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2) In that case I would suggest one of the ranged classes. Black Mage (from Thaumaturge) is by far the least mobile with the least number of buttons to regularly press (i.e. long cast times with high damage per hit). That said, to play Black Mage well (at higher levels at least) you will need to learn various fight mechanics in order to minimise movement, so the imobility does come at that cost. Also, no matter what class you play, you are going to have to move a fair bit in some fights.
3) Not really. You'll have a lot of main story quests to get through, but once you're done with that (you can do everything on a single class, so unlike most MMOs you only ever have to do quests once) and hit level cap (currently 60), getting up to a reasonable gear level isn't too hard.
As for how hard the PvE rotations are... it depends on the class (tip: don't play Lancer / Dragoon). As I mentioned, Black Mage has the least number of buttons to reglarly press, but dropping your main buff (at level 60) is very punishing (they are looking at changing this in the expansion though), so it can be a very challenging class to play in certain fights.
On the other hand there is something like Bard (from Archer), which has a lot more buttons to regularly press (and a lot of them off global cooldown, so the pace can be fairly high), but they don't really have any mechanics or combos to 'keep up', so doing decent DPS is fairly easy... Bard is probably harder to master overall though, as all the buttons can be hard to keep track of.
In any case, as I mentioned, you can play all classes on a single character, so if you aren't digging one, you can always change to another without having to completely start over. Edit: Also, once you unlock it, Palace of the Dead can be a good way to sample what various classes / jobs will play like at level cap without having to fully level them in the normal world.
Edit 2: Another thing worth mentioning is that if you are at all comfortable with an Xbox or Playstation 3/4 controller (which FFXIV has native support for), then playing with a controller can be significatly easier than a KB and Mouse, especially if you have trouble reaching further away keys (6-0, Shift, Ctrl, Alt, etc.) on a keyboard (and / or don't have an MMO mouse).
Classes like Monk and Ninja have very complex rotations for optimal DPS.
For example heres what a Ninja rotation would look like
1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 4, 1, 3, 2, 4, 1, 2, 4, 3, 1, 2, 4 repeat
And this doesnt include timed buffs
This is why they are simplifying the combat system a bit in the upcoming expansion.
Is there plenty to do in-game without doing endgame raiding? Or is that the whole focus? I haven't raided in any game for years.
I...guess that would give me something to do in-game, LOL.
Is there anything to do at end-game, other than raid?
Couple hours a day. What are challenges?
After doing a quest at level 15, challenge log gets unlocked. Then there will be weekly challenges, from dungeons to crafting, quests,mounts, FATEs, treasure hunts, etc.