Just dont play the game and you have nothing to worry about. You are not missing much.
Yea because it's not like he might actually like a game the "great" DMKano says is not worth playing. This is pretty shallow stuff for such a legendary poster dude.
Legendary is a meaningless title that has nothing to do with anything, certainly it has nothing to do with a person.
Funny you are still getting hung up on completely irrelevant stuff like forum titles on mmorpg lol
More on topic; Arche Age and Aion (and I'm pretty sure most other NCSoft titles) have done this before as well, yep. One of the cases I remember WAS exactly what some of the people here have brought up. Someone's guildie had decided to buy gold, and then "shared the wealth"... AND the bans. Mighty nice of him >.>
Sounds like the very same thing might have happened to the OP.
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I've seen many threads where people claim they did nothing wrong and received a ban. Whether they did or did not was always a guess at best. But this is the first time i've seen a developer actually squash the issue and call out the cheater in his own temper tantrum thread. Gotta say, this was an awesome turn of events and very entertaining to boot lol.
omg REN give it up already i stoped reading alot of the stuff u said above, but its obvious considering you have had many occurrence across different games that you indeed did break TOS. You got caught, sucks to be you, now its time for the consequences of your actions
I've only had a few sand-box games where I have actually been accused of RMT just for the record...
Once, in Arche Age over many months of playing, even though most everyone there knew I was a fat whale who spent $300 a month sometimes selling stacks of 20 or so Apex for in game currency to others.
. This was because I played the market and sold "Archem Trees" for 100g, and $1000 gold a pop after buying them all and reselling them just to get people to buy them without paying attention and it worked ( I simply played the market the GM Removed 3k gold and just gave me a warning.) because they mistaked this for RMT.
Once in EVE Online because I bought Plex from a source which wasn't legitimate reseller but again I wasn't banned for this, they simply asked me to pay it back before I could ever get positive income again, the GM was polite about it provided me a list where I could legally obtain Apex in packs like the ones I bought, and I just bought a few Apex's and got my wallet positive again...
Never have I been actually banned for "RMT" or Real Money trading, this is just something this company thinks happened, and its a German Company with more strict rules than Korean Based games and such.
If the GM's actually sat down, and took the time to read everything in the Last message I put in my support ticket, and actually provided customer service, or a easier way than responding every 18 hours or so to support tickets, I could politely explain everything that happened over the phone and perhaps get my account back with a penalty of course just not a ban from ever playing the game again. I think they are nice people at least the ones I have spoken to, But its a matter of finding who is in charge and talking to them about exactly what happened and being truthful about it.
And no I don't understand what there is to give up, I know I am at fault here, but 10.2 OF The Terms OF Service was very confusing for me to even understand, They need to make the game rules easier for people to understand allow me to give you an example...
"Wrote way more professional, and easier to understand."
"Blizzard does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the “real world” of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for “real” money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game. "
And even if actually broke the Terms OF Service with Blizzard, they very likely would not ban me forever on the first offense, although this is not something I would try, nor do I play WOW anymore anyways, I just wanted to make a point that its more easier to understand or at least I understand it easier, and I feel still that Albion needs to make their section of 10.2 more easier to understand.
PLay legit and these things don't happen. Just sayin.
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Well, as much as I can't stand it, BDO doesn't allow much trading in their game. I guess that alleviates the whole gold sellers problem, but now you've alienated every guild member from being able to trade with one another. All you have is the hopes and dreams of your friend getting an item you have to offer, by buying it off the market.
I really don't know what's worse. A controlled market and zero gold sellers or a player driven economy and gold sellers. Both seem very annoying and don't really help the community.
Thanks, just got up this morning checked my email so far no Good news or replies they likely put the ticket at the very bottom of the list by now, and of course checked the replies here since yesterday.
I do play Legit, and I have played BDO, as well as over 25 other MMORPG games if I didn''t play legit I would have been banned from like all of them over the years, but this is not the case I play my games legally, have never been banned for any type of hacks, bots, or cheating, until Albion Online where I am being accused of "Buying Currency" in a Player Driven Economy based game... The only reason I quit playing BDO after I tried it for like a month, is because they were installing Xing Code on my system, and put Xhunter1 inside my C:\windows directory, I am not trusting.
And honestly as far as far as I can see with ""Albion Online" its a disaster waiting to happen, they accuse me of RMT based off a few logs and stuff they can see server side, but completely ignore like everything I have sent them in the support ticket, even proof of my Cross Game trade that I have before I quit playing the game... But anyways the reason I say its a Disaster, Is because this game has no security, Cheaters & Hackers can cheat easily and worse of all its a Full Loot game, On top of this what the developer was saying about people committing Fraud, and hacked accounts, this can easily be done, and then throw that silver back into the Economy "User gets banned for doing such" but yet we all have this illegal gold that was just used to trade to silver freely Without Caps, or Limits, and it took them a week to ban me, Imagine the kind of damage I could have done if I was Intentionally cheating... I could have easily passed all this off to My Guild, Alternate accounts with a different IP address also connected to a guild, and claimed to be innocent for example if the GM said anything, or used it in many other malicious ways I can think of... But this is not the case here what happened was totally a cross game trade, if someone illegal was involved I had no idea, and would just like the chance to be able to play the game again give the game a chance and prove this, but with as long as its taking them to respond to anything this is unlikely.
The whole point here is that I didn't use Real Money, I still broke the "T&C" of this game, without knowledge because it changed a lot over the Alpha & Testing phases of the game, When I first played I was not required to accept any agreement either because I played this game before they even sold the founders packs to anyone.
And actually this is not the first time I have seen a developer call out a cheater, or suspected cheater, in fact he is right about me cheating the game, because I did cheat without the Intention to do so by accepting the trade, the only thing this company is wrong about is saying I purchased with real money... Although what he didn't actually let people know, Is that I got 100k Gold But I did this in two transactions basically the Gold was used to upgrade my buildings and Islands in the game as part of our cross game trade, 50k wasn't enough so I let them know on Curse and within like a few minutes we came to an agreement outside the game and they gave me another 50k because it wasn't enough to upgrade everything across 3 characters on my same account like I was doing. Not that it matters but this is what happened truthfully.
And as far as playing Legit and I wouldn't be banned. This is true, I wouldn't have been banned or Perm-Suspended as they call it if I didn't accept this trade, but also I wouldn't have accepted the trade if I knew it wasn't legal, and totally understood 10.2 of the TOS it would have been so much more helpful, but instead I had to ask other people and them because I found this game to be really confusing... Although I do game legally, and this is the first game I have ever been banned from doing doing a "Real Money Trade" over all the years of gaming, so this has to actually prove something, and hopefully I can convince them enough to at least reduce this from a 200 year suspension to anything else including a full wipe of my account and characters of everything I did gather, and level legally besides this one day where I made a couple of trades.
Oh and earlier I just logged into the support after asking to speak to a manage / Staff that could assist, the ticket was just marked as (Solved) meaning they don't care or attempt to care, but I will keep trying until they actually do ban me from everything, and then I will keep spreading the word about this on other sites
You could just start over on a fresh account right?
I once got two NA L1 accounts permabanned (for advertising DAOC in game via dozens of dropped scrolls in every town, old school spamming) and when I wanted to return for s new alt rules server I just started a new account
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You could just start over on a fresh account right?
I once got two NA L1 accounts permabanned (for advertising DAOC in game via dozens of dropped scrolls in every town, old school spamming) and when I wanted to return for s new alt rules server I just started a new account
No, based off the "Terms OF Service" or "Terms & Conditions" if I start a fresh account they have they can legally ban me from the game again even since I know this is obviously illegal now and would not do it again of course... I have told them they could wipe all my characters as Punishment, and if not give me access to my account I would do it myself as well and Never do this again...
I also asked them if I created a New Account if I have permission to do such and haven't gotten a response back from that yet.
6.9 Without the prior express written consent of Sandbox Interactive, any blocked User is prohibited from creating a new account, if his/her account(s) was/were blocked. If Sandbox Interactive finds that this ban was violated, then Sandbox Interactive has the right to block this account permanently without prior announcement.
Although it does say "Blocked Accounts" I am not sure if "Perm-suspension applies as a blocked account, and this is what I mean about being confused with some of these.
3.8 Every account is linked to one specific email address. Multiple registrations, as well as the setting up and operation of multiple accounts at our Services are allowed under certain conditions. Prohibited is the use of multiple accounts when being logged into their respective characters at the same time for the purpose of engaging in such activities as direct interaction, trading, any form of cooperation, mutual support outside the designated player islands, guild islands, player cities or guild owned territories. It is further prohibited to use multiple accounts at the same time to jointly engage in any type of player vs. player or player vs. environment combat as well as to jointly engage in gathering in the game world. It is the User's responsibility to remain informed about all rules and guidelines concerning Sandbox Interactive's multi account policy, which may also be outlined in detail within the Game Rules.
I think this only applies to if you use Multiple accounts at the same time in the game to prevent cheat or software / KVM programs.
Here is basically a copy of the new ticket I put in and waiting for a response which is likely going to be denied, but I also put it here to show that I am not cursing at the staff, or anything like this although I am still upset about the whole thing who wouldn't be.
http://tinypic.com/r/28wdj07/9 Me asking if I create a new account If I will be banned again just for making a new account and playing.
http://imgur.com/a/DbSUn Also just FYI, this is why I believe in telling the truth rather than lying, everyone on League OF Legends cries after being extremely toxic to others, yet they strong believed I Intentionally fed games of being forced support before the new Role System because I was getting stuck with players who couldn't play at all as a support most my games... Instead of lying like people told me to do and telling them my account was hacked, I told them the truth, and (Got unbanned) Obviously if I ever do something this bad again I would get banned for good. But its been 2 years so far and I haven't been banned from there. Just an example of what kind people are willing to do when they give you a chance and you prove to them you tell the truth.
Oh and wow being banned for advertising DAOC, I remember the old-school days too was actually better than today, which game was this .
You could just start over on a fresh account right?
I once got two NA L1 accounts permabanned (for advertising DAOC in game via dozens of dropped scrolls in every town, old school spamming) and when I wanted to return for s new alt rules server I just started a new account
http://imgur.com/a/wuOnu Nope I can't make a fresh account, I tried, I will just find a better game that wont ban its customers for a single mistake like this, Its pretty sad too because I've been in Albion for well over 2 years, if you want to see how long I've been a member http://imgur.com/a/vZb0FMember since 2013, Can you honestly Believe that, I have done nothing wrong in their game for 3 and a half years or something like that in Good Standing too until that trade between games.
Even though I have done my best to respect the staff, and admin decision on this game unlike some people, I have to say speaking Freely, I think this is some serious bullshit, First time offense in a game and you are gone (No other penalty they can hand out for that.) Especially when they updated their Terms & Conditions so much over the years and when I signed up it didn't have all this in it...
So anyways I just want to make everyone aware to be careful of this game, (They are very strict) on making mistakes (You will get banned with no chance to start over.) and on top of this if you do decide to play anyways.
Be careful of 10.2, I know this is a little bit hard for some to understand because they use "German Legal Format, it was for me, but Basically it means...
. Don't do any type of "Real Money Trades" for any items in Albion. . Don't Trade Items Across Games like I did, or Currency for Albion Currency.
. If you do a Large Transaction between someone in Albion be careful they could think you are buying items for real money you have to explain it the last section is very clear, and it didn't matter that I submitted Screen Shots of my out of game trades even though I was straight up and Truthful of what was traded for the currency.
. Also it came to my attention that people account share, Please also be aware that its against their Terms & Conditions, and this will get you banned, I know some people who do this there are ways around not being detected but for the common folk, They will check you via IP.
As far as my really last Opinion on this game, It has really taught me not to be so trustworthy between "Indie companies" especially founding them Back when I first found out my founders items could be looted I was upset and offered a "Refund" but instead, I put my faith into this game, When it looks like I should have accepted the refund I was offered, But who knew this would happen I didn't.
So pretty much if a company doesn't make over a Million Dollars in funding like "Star Citizen", or Crow Fall, I have learned my lesson here.
@Renoaku Or you could just man up and admit you are a cheat and have been so in many games and for some time. This time you got caught and punished appropriately.
It is not 'their' fault it is your fault. All you are showing with this on going campaign is that you are an entitled, unpleasant individual.
Modify your behavior and play your next game without cheating.
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@Renoaku Or you could just man up and admit you are a cheat and have been so in many games and for some time. This time you got caught and punished appropriately.
It is not 'their' fault it is your fault. All you are showing with this on going campaign is that you are an entitled, unpleasant individual.
Modify your behavior and play your next game without cheating.
I don't cheat my games, again this was a honest mistake, I know I should have kept up to date with the "Terms & Conditions, but as I stated, and truthful because I put the picture on here, I played this game before they required acceptance of the Terms" and they have been changed more than once over the years, I simply missed the part that I wasn't legally allowed to trade items across games and did this which Violated their rules, and they have a strict policy against this...
Whenever you play a Sandbox game, you are likely to run into a RMT issue some time or another especially when you do a lot of transactions in game like I do, and play the market and do this for hours a day on time sometimes which is what happened to me a couple of times in "Arche Age" and "EVE Online" but neither of those games banned me because it was like a one time thing out of many years of actually playing the game, and having my accounts around. Of course, if I went back, and did this on purpose to cheat, yes I would get banned, but I don't cheat games I have said.
And you honestly can't expect someone to never break a rule in their life time in a online MMORPG, it happens, even with people who post on forums, sometimes we Violate the rules by posting in the wrong section, or breaking a simple rule, but generally people don't get banned right off for that.
Er you do realize its not that hard to evade their ban right? But moving on probably is the better choice.
Um yes I understand this, although I provided them "Accurate Real Life Information", and they have my "PayPal Email" and Real Life information so the moment I would go back even without cheating, or Ban Evasion as they call it I would get banned again and lose my money and another account.
Obviously I build computers for a living, I know how to Browse the web, as well as the Hidden Internet, I know a ton of illegal sites which do Real World illegal activities, as well as sites hidden off the general internet for a good reason, and Obviously I know how to bypass a ban, I have like Thousands of VPN's, Secure Connections, Proxies, as well as, VM Software / Replacement Motherboards / drives, and I usually filter my connection through Multiple VPN and proxies when I don't want to get tracked, as well as using someone else's WI-FI if doing something I really don't want to be tracked to where I live.
So I know my stuff generally speaking without going into details on the actual illegal stuff or sharing that because of these forum rules...
I also know Albion Online, as a game lacks any type of Client Side Anti Cheat detection, and that evading a ban would be easy if I truly wanted, But my point is this, I am 100% legit I would rather be honest with the game company and games I play, be able to provide True and accurate information to them, and Feel I am doing the right thing. It is honestly up to them if they wan't to ban me or not, But fro my point of view it is still a bullshit thing for them to do, as my account was in good standing for over 3 years, never did anything wrong except for this little mistake recently, and honestly the way I feel about this in Real Life, is if their company is going to not give me a way to legally come back to the game, tell me if I come back I will be banned again, then F*** them, I tried, and I was nice about everything for the most part even though it was my fault this is how I truly feel about it... So yes moving on to a better game, that wouldn't do this to a long time customer for me is a must, I left them my final ticket, thanked them for their time and support, and its up to them should they change their mind.
The only thing I can do is Warn people to please read 10.2 of the Terms OF Service or & Terms and Conditions, and please don't make the same mistake I did, because I told them they should make it a little easier for people to understand.
@Renoaku Nope, you were cheating, no ifs no buts. You have as much as admitted it, time after time. You have also admitted cheating in other games.
Now you have created the suspicion that you engage in criminal activities on the hidden web.
Man up or shut up. You didn't make an unintentional mistake, you didn't misunderstand the TOS you cheated and got caught, the punishment is entirely appropriate.
@Renoaku Nope, you were cheating, no ifs no buts. You have as much as admitted it, time after time. You have also admitted cheating in other games.
Now you have created the suspicion that you engage in criminal activities on the hidden web.
Man up or shut up. You didn't make an unintentional mistake, you didn't misunderstand the TOS you cheated and got caught, the punishment is entirely appropriate.
Well yeah if you consider trading across games without knowledge cheating then yes I Cheated this game without knowing I would get banned for a simple cross game trade no real money involved.
And yes Truthfully I never read the Albion Online (TOS) since it was updated so I never read 10.2 at all I just knew Real Money Trading was illegal, not cross game trading or exchanges / Gifts and so on. If I knew this I wouldn't have wasted $175 in this game... Although when I did go back and read what they said I broke in the agreement, I couldn't really even understand it because there is a difference in legal wording the way Germany companies do it, and U.S based companies. I can understand Blizzard's Terms and Conditions better for example.
But what I am trying to say is if I truly wanted to cheat a online game, there are plenty of websites I can't legally list here because of the rules which contain cheats for (X) games and are easy enough to use, heck you can go for years cheating in (X) online games without getting banned if you know what you are doing, but its these kids these days that actually go online Botting for example go away from their keyboard leave it running all night and then come back wondering "Why the hell am I banned?" that have no Idea how to screw in a light bulb for that matter.
And as far as illegal activities, Nope I don't take part in them, which is why I won't ban evade to play this game, Generally what I am saying, is there are all kinds of hidden secrets on the internet when it comes to stuff that I can't talk about here One of these things being for example something that isn't illegal I can disclose here, Is that these Gold Selling sites who people actually buy from or do RMT with, illegally take your information such as "Real Life" information when you use your Credit Card, and sell this information on a big list, and then people who actually Pay for this "Usually in currency like "Bit Coin" for example, then they have all your info and can do what you wan't with it, this is why I would never trust a 3rd party gold sellers site.
As for bit coin, being the only currency or virtual currency, there is actually another one that very very very few people know about but that has to stay secret .
@Renoaku Yes you 'truly wanted to cheat', still do apparently, and you think it is OK to do so. You are trying to hide behind long posts and overuse of bold type but come on trying to get an in game advantage using external resources is cheating and always has been.
Hiding behind difficult language and throwing red herrings about illegal activities on the dark web doesn't obscure the fact you are a cheat who got caught.
@Renoaku Yes you 'truly wanted to cheat', still do apparently, and you think it is OK to do so. You are trying to hide behind long posts and overuse of bold type but come on trying to get an in game advantage using external resources is cheating and always has been.
Hiding behind difficult language and throwing red herrings about illegal activities on the dark web doesn't obscure the fact you are a cheat who got caught.
They said during previous tests "Real Money Trading would get you banned".
They did not say that "Cross Game Trading" would get you banned or paying in rocks would get you banned...
Obviously the Terms & Conditions changed over time and I didn't see this that is all that happened.
@Renoaku Yes you 'truly wanted to cheat', still do apparently, and you think it is OK to do so. You are trying to hide behind long posts and overuse of bold type but come on trying to get an in game advantage using external resources is cheating and always has been.
Hiding behind difficult language and throwing red herrings about illegal activities on the dark web doesn't obscure the fact you are a cheat who got caught.
I'm starting to understand his crusade against the anti-cheat software Duenvo (spelling?). I have seen him rail against that software in several threads now and it makes total sense. Only a cheater would be so against anti-cheat software.
Hey, stop the fuss. It really matters a lot, reading the terms of service before buying a game. What the heck will you gonna purchase something if its already broken. Its quite ironic why people demands so much of the game where in fact he/she was not able to read the terms of service. I have known few people who clamor under a specific company about the game they purchased where in fat they were obliged to know first if its suitable for the age of their young one's who are gonna play the game.
@Renoaku Yes you 'truly wanted to cheat', still do apparently, and you think it is OK to do so. You are trying to hide behind long posts and overuse of bold type but come on trying to get an in game advantage using external resources is cheating and always has been.
Hiding behind difficult language and throwing red herrings about illegal activities on the dark web doesn't obscure the fact you are a cheat who got caught.
I'm starting to understand his crusade against the anti-cheat software Duenvo (spelling?). I have seen him rail against that software in several threads now and it makes total sense. Only a cheater would be so against anti-cheat software.
My problem with Denuvo is that it isn't fully transparent on how it works, doesn't provide a full uninstaller, and the Terms OF Service of many games using Denuvo itself is malicious this is why I don't and won't buy an Denuvo games besides the one I accidently purchased "Conan Exiles" which I uninstalled and format my drive because of it.
I have no problem with Anti Cheat Software, but there are only a few of them I will use on my system.
. Easy Anti Cheat . Punk Buster . Battleye
Anything that isn't transparent such as Xing Code, or Game Guard I won't have on here I tried Black Desert and found it copying files into my C:\windows directory I uninstalled the game and removed it from my system and had to go clean up my drive.
Hey, stop the fuss. It really matters a lot, reading the terms of service before buying a game. What the heck will you gonna purchase something if its already broken. Its quite ironic why people demands so much of the game where in fact he/she was not able to read the terms of service. I have known few people who clamor under a specific company about the game they purchased where in fat they were obliged to know first if its suitable for the age of their young one's who are gonna play the game.
As for Reading the "Terms OF Service" back when I first played Albion I wasn't required to agree to a Terms OF Service that had any of this in it, and my Purchase came way before this existed so I had already bought the game, just like when I just backed "Crow Fall" I wasn't required to agree to an agreement saying I won't buy currency for Real Money, although they will likely add this into the game on release. http://imgur.com/a/gtP3A I actually played as I said before founders packs were even for sale.
And yes I read the Terms of the game before at one point but it was way back.
I mean I can understand a ban for actually, doing something like Exploiting Intentionally, or actually using hacking software or rather Cheating software to cheat the game, but a ban for a cross game trade just because I didn't see the new Terms & Conditions that say this isn't allowed is a bit much for a first offense when they could wipe my characters and make me start over and I would be fine with it, and then if it happens again Obviously I know. And creating another account isn't an option because they said they would ban it.
@Renoaku Yes you 'truly wanted to cheat', still do apparently, and you think it is OK to do so. You are trying to hide behind long posts and overuse of bold type but come on trying to get an in game advantage using external resources is cheating and always has been.
Hiding behind difficult language and throwing red herrings about illegal activities on the dark web doesn't obscure the fact you are a cheat who got caught.
I'm starting to understand his crusade against the anti-cheat software Duenvo (spelling?). I have seen him rail against that software in several threads now and it makes total sense. Only a cheater would be so against anti-cheat software.
Nah, the problem is Denuvo being just an unnecessary bureaucracy that consumes resources to avoid pirate copies for like... 1 week? At least that's my reason to dislike it.
Sorry to be off topic.
Np I am against Denvuo because of many reasons mainly because of Privacy for my reason, but it does consume additional resources from what I hear.
As far as being a pirate, yarrrrr its why i have 210 games on steam lol. http://imgur.com/a/bgXHk
Just saying no to Denuvo all together, I wouldn't mind Denuvo if they could make it Reputable like Steam.
@Renoaku Yes you 'truly wanted to cheat', still do apparently, and you think it is OK to do so. You are trying to hide behind long posts and overuse of bold type but come on trying to get an in game advantage using external resources is cheating and always has been.
Hiding behind difficult language and throwing red herrings about illegal activities on the dark web doesn't obscure the fact you are a cheat who got caught.
I'm starting to understand his crusade against the anti-cheat software Duenvo (spelling?). I have seen him rail against that software in several threads now and it makes total sense. Only a cheater would be so against anti-cheat software.
Nah, the problem is Denuvo being just an unnecessary bureaucracy that consumes resources to avoid pirate copies for like... 1 week? At least that's my reason to dislike it.
Sorry to be off topic.
Np I am against Denvuo because of many reasons mainly because of Privacy for my reason, but it does consume additional resources from what I hear.
As far as being a pirate, yarrrrr its why i have 210 games on steam lol. http://imgur.com/a/bgXHk
Just saying no to Denuvo all together, I wouldn't mind Denuvo if they could make it Reputable like Steam.
@Renoaku Yes you 'truly wanted to cheat', still do apparently, and you think it is OK to do so. You are trying to hide behind long posts and overuse of bold type but come on trying to get an in game advantage using external resources is cheating and always has been.
Hiding behind difficult language and throwing red herrings about illegal activities on the dark web doesn't obscure the fact you are a cheat who got caught.
I'm starting to understand his crusade against the anti-cheat software Duenvo (spelling?). I have seen him rail against that software in several threads now and it makes total sense. Only a cheater would be so against anti-cheat software.
Nah, the problem is Denuvo being just an unnecessary bureaucracy that consumes resources to avoid pirate copies for like... 1 week? At least that's my reason to dislike it.
Sorry to be off topic.
Np I am against Denvuo because of many reasons mainly because of Privacy for my reason, but it does consume additional resources from what I hear.
As far as being a pirate, yarrrrr its why i have 210 games on steam lol. http://imgur.com/a/bgXHk
Just saying no to Denuvo all together, I wouldn't mind Denuvo if they could make it Reputable like Steam.
....and I bet you cheat in all of this them.
This reminds me of the old Jedi Knight Dark Force II days, back when MSN gaming zone was around and everyone would come into peoples private servers and COG everything up heh... Not many people remember those days.
I also bet a lot of people don't remember "Microsoft Ants either" or that "Age OF Empires / Rise OF Roam was the best out of all of them.
I don't cheat my games, again this was a honest mistake, I know I should have kept up to date with the "Terms & Conditions, but as I stated, and truthful because I put the picture on here, I played this game before they required acceptance of the Terms" and they have been changed more than once over the years, I simply missed the part that I wasn't legally allowed to trade items across games and did this which Violated their rules, and they have a strict policy against this...
For future reference... this is where a healthy dose of common sense comes in... don't take something NOT covered by the ToS as "allowed" when it looks shady as hell. Chances are good, it was overlooked and you're still going to find yourself getting sanctioned for it.
As for this game... I'm pretty sure it's a lost cause. IF they give you a second chance, they're opening the door for everyone who exploits to do the same thing you did; AKA slander them across the internet until they yield. Pretty much not going to happen at this point. Not to mention it encourages the mindset that it's okay to cheat, because you're going to get a second chance when/if caught.
I'm sorry this happened to you if it was actually a genuine mistake, but I think you're pretty much f***ed when it comes to this game.
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I don't cheat my games, again this was a honest mistake, I know I should have kept up to date with the "Terms & Conditions, but as I stated, and truthful because I put the picture on here, I played this game before they required acceptance of the Terms" and they have been changed more than once over the years, I simply missed the part that I wasn't legally allowed to trade items across games and did this which Violated their rules, and they have a strict policy against this...
For future reference... this is where a healthy dose of common sense comes in... don't take something NOT covered by the ToS as "allowed" when it looks shady as hell. Chances are good, it was overlooked and you're still going to find yourself getting sanctioned for it.
As for this game... I'm pretty sure it's a lost cause. IF they give you a second chance, they're opening the door for everyone who exploits to do the same thing you did; AKA slander them across the internet until they yield. Pretty much not going to happen at this point. Not to mention it encourages the mindset that it's okay to cheat, because you're going to get a second chance when/if caught.
I'm sorry this happened to you if it was actually a genuine mistake, but I think you're pretty much f***ed when it comes to this game.
Well thanks, and yeah I Get your point about other people abusing it if they actually removed the ban off my account, or let me create another one without just banning it right off.
And I disagree with one thing, There is a difference between getting banned for cheating, and getting banned just for accepting a "Trade In Game" accepting a trade no matter where it comes from is in game mechanics its allowed, what wasn't allowed was accepting a trade which I did across games trading for example "World OF Warcraft Gold" for "Albion Gold" wasn't allowed and I missed this.
What I think the company needs to do, and reason I post this here, Is I think they need to add a section to the Terms OF Service called (Game Rules.) which also mentioned in their "Terms & Conditions, and basically make it a clickable link and add to it so people can easier understand.
Example.
Chat Rules . No Politcs . No Religion . No Cursing
Real Money Trading (Zero Tolerance Policy will result in ban. . No trading any in game Items, property, In Game Resources, for real money. . No buying in game Currency, Silver, or Gold, or Any items from within the game for Real Money . No Cross game trading, or Exchanges between games.
. No abusing Bugs, or Exploits instead report them, abusing exploits, or bugs is a ban worthy offense. . No use of 3rd party hacking programs to cheat. . No Modifying the game client or software.
This would make it easier for people to understand, because you have to remember the format they are using in the Terms OF Service, and the Wording is from "Germany" comparing 10.2 to Blizzards Terms & Conditions for World OF Warcraft, I can understand theirs a lot better than Albion Online.
As far as actual cheating though, Cheaters are going to cheat I mean if someone actually downloads a third party hacking program for a game, and actually cheats it intentionally, or abuses an in game exploit over and over again with knowledge of what they are doing then obviously they deserve a ban.
So this thread in a nutshell: Before you buy this game, understand that you can't buy Gold from third party sellers. Am I right, or did I miss something important? (I admit I didn't read every post)
Also Yes generally this thread is, Don't buy a gold from 3rd parties, as well as Don't Exchange currency across games Example, World OF Warcraft Gold, for Albion Gold, as this is what got me banned pretty much was exchange across games I knew Real Money was a violation, but not giving away items and getting items from one game and getting currency or items in Albion.
Also if you read the last section of 10.2, It also says, That if you Receive a Large amount of currency in game, they will assume you bought it, now perhaps for example lets say I was playing Albion for a year, I have 500 Million Silver, and a Bank full of items, and I decide to just hand all my stuff over to you without letting you know in the game I am quitting Albion, Then the GM's could take this as a Real Money Trade, or Exchange, and ban you, which I think this is a little bit nuts, but its there.
I don't cheat my games, again this was a honest mistake, I know I should have kept up to date with the "Terms & Conditions, but as I stated, and truthful because I put the picture on here, I played this game before they required acceptance of the Terms" and they have been changed more than once over the years, I simply missed the part that I wasn't legally allowed to trade items across games and did this which Violated their rules, and they have a strict policy against this...
For future reference... this is where a healthy dose of common sense comes in... don't take something NOT covered by the ToS as "allowed" when it looks shady as hell. Chances are good, it was overlooked and you're still going to find yourself getting sanctioned for it.
As for this game... I'm pretty sure it's a lost cause. IF they give you a second chance, they're opening the door for everyone who exploits to do the same thing you did; AKA slander them across the internet until they yield. Pretty much not going to happen at this point. Not to mention it encourages the mindset that it's okay to cheat, because you're going to get a second chance when/if caught.
I'm sorry this happened to you if it was actually a genuine mistake, but I think you're pretty much f***ed when it comes to this game.
Well thanks, and yeah I Get your point about other people abusing it if they actually removed the ban off my account, or let me create another one without just banning it right off.
And I disagree with one thing, There is a difference between getting banned for cheating, and getting banned just for accepting a "Trade In Game" accepting a trade no matter where it comes from is in game mechanics its allowed, what wasn't allowed was accepting a trade which I did across games trading for example "World OF Warcraft Gold" for "Albion Gold" wasn't allowed and I missed this.
What I think the company needs to do, and reason I post this here, Is I think they need to add a section to the Terms OF Service called (Game Rules.) which also mentioned in their "Terms & Conditions, and basically make it a clickable link and add to it so people can easier understand.
Example.
Chat Rules . No Politcs . No Religion . No Cursing
Real Money Trading (Zero Tolerance Policy will result in ban. . No trading any in game Items, property, In Game Resources, for real money. . No buying in game Currency, Silver, or Gold, or Any items from within the game for Real Money . No Cross game trading, or Exchanges between games.
. No abusing Bugs, or Exploits instead report them, abusing exploits, or bugs is a ban worthy offense. . No use of 3rd party hacking programs to cheat. . No Modifying the game client or software.
This would make it easier for people to understand, because you have to remember the format they are using in the Terms OF Service, and the Wording is from "Germany" comparing 10.2 to Blizzards Terms & Conditions for World OF Warcraft, I can understand theirs a lot better than Albion Online.
As far as actual cheating though, Cheaters are going to cheat I mean if someone actually downloads a third party hacking program for a game, and actually cheats it intentionally, or abuses an in game exploit over and over again with knowledge of what they are doing then obviously they deserve a ban.
So this thread in a nutshell: Before you buy this game, understand that you can't buy Gold from third party sellers. Am I right, or did I miss something important? (I admit I didn't read every post)
Also Yes generally this thread is, Don't buy a gold from 3rd parties, as well as Don't Exchange currency across games Example, World OF Warcraft Gold, for Albion Gold, as this is what got me banned pretty much was exchange across games I knew Real Money was a violation, but not giving away items and getting items from one game and getting currency or items in Albion.
Also if you read the last section of 10.2, It also says, That if you Receive a Large amount of currency in game, they will assume you bought it, now perhaps for example lets say I was playing Albion for a year, I have 500 Million Silver, and a Bank full of items, and I decide to just hand all my stuff over to you without letting you know in the game I am quitting Albion, Then the GM's could take this as a Real Money Trade, or Exchange, and ban you, which I think this is a little bit nuts, but its there.
So you're the reason they put a warning label on a lawnmower telling you not to put your hands underneath the mower while it's running. For the rest of us it was just common sense.
I am just saying that 10.2 basically isn't fully clear, and is very confusing the way they word almsot the whole thing in many aspects, and that is why I did not fully understand it personally and had to even ask support what all of this meant...
10.1 The User understands, accepts and agrees that he has no interest, monetary or otherwise, in any feature or content contained in the Game, including without limitation the account registered to him, in-game/virtual items, in-game/virtual currency, in-game buildings, in-game land or in game characters (all or part of these herein also referred to as "Virtual Property").
10.2 The User is prohibited from selling, purchasing, renting, leasing, offering, accepting, disseminating or copying Virtual Property within and/or outside the Game - in whatever form - to third parties unless expressly permitted by these Terms and Conditions or the Game Rules. A system provided by the Game or by Sandbox Interactive to trade Virtual Property of the Game, constitutes such an exception. In this case, the transfer of Virtual Property from one User to the other is only permitted, if the transfer takes place - no matter if within or outside the Game - without consideration in exchange or if the consideration consists solely of Virtual Property of the Game and these are transferred within the Game itself or by a function provided by the Game. The acquisition of Virtual Property against consideration in any form other than Virtual Property of the Game is expressly prohibited. If the User trades or exchanges Virtual Property in a large-scale without a comparable value obtained within the Game, then it is assumed that the User violates this rule. The User is entitled to provide counter-evidence
Looking at 10.1 here I get confused right where it says "Monetary, or otherwise in any feature or content contained in the game???
10.2 The User is prohibited from selling, purchasing, renting, leasing, offering, accepting, disseminating or copying Virtual Property within and/or outside the Game - in whatever form - to third parties unless expressly permitted by these Terms and Conditions or the Game Rules.
This is also the second part that confused the hell out of me How in the world can I copy Virtual property outside of the game?
Also if you read where it says Within, and or outside the game???
To me this means that if I "Selling" Virtual Property as defined in 10.1 to "Third parties" within the game I am breaking this agreement.
It also means that if I rent my private island out for like 10k silver a day to other individuals in game I am breaking this agreement, because it says within, and or outside of the game?
The part that might make this make sense is this ?
in whatever form - to third parties unless expressly permitted by these Terms and Conditions or the Game Rules.
But this part doesn't have a link to the game rules which define what it actually means?
In general just trying to read this entire 10.2 section of the Terms OF Service really confuses me again, like honestly they explained what it means to me so I understand what they expect of me as a player if I were allowed to play again.
However if I compare this to Blizzard the way they word theirs is like 100x more easier for me to understand as a customer?
Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.
Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of World of Warcraft Accounts or BNET Accounts (each an “Account”). You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. Blizzard owns, has licensed, or otherwise has rights to all of the content that appears in the Game. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including without limitation the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with any Account. Blizzard does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the “real world” of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for “real” money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game.
Final Fantasy XIV user Agreement
2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling. You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any in-game currency, accounts, characters, in-game services, or in-game virtual items. You may not play the Game for the purpose of acquiring virtual items or advancement in game play on behalf of a third-party or for the purpose of selling any virtual assets to a third party for real-world money, specifically including "gold-farming" and power-leveling services.
Again easy to understand?
Elder Scrolls Online
Virtual Currency is not transferable to, or redeemable for, any sum of real currency or monetary value from ZeniMax or any other person at any time. ZeniMax prohibits, and does not recognize any purported, transfers, sales, gifts, or trades of Virtual Currency. Virtual Currency will only be used by You to obtain virtual goods within a Game (e.g., durable goods that become part of Your inventory in the Game and consumable or single use items that are used and expire after use within the Game) or other Downloadable Content, through one or more Services, as determined by ZeniMax in its sole discretion. You agree not to sell or transfer, or assist others in selling or transferring Virtual Currencies or any amounts thereof. Evidence of any attempt to use, sell or transfer Virtual Currency in any manner that violates these Terms of Service may result in revocation, termination, or cancellation of the Virtual Currency and/or Your use of the Services without refund and/or immediate suspension or termination of Your Account.
So out of curiosity why do all these other games, have agreement sections that are way easier to understand than "Albion Online" which has me all confused just trying to get through the paragraph?
This is a non-issue. Almost every game has a TOS just like that to be honest. You got busted doing something against the rules. Don't care if you got away with it in other games or not. It is your responsibility to know the rules, you signed off on the TOS to begin with. Betting you didn't read them just like the other 99% of people, myself included some times.
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*coughs* Sorry...
More on topic; Arche Age and Aion (and I'm pretty sure most other NCSoft titles) have done this before as well, yep. One of the cases I remember WAS exactly what some of the people here have brought up. Someone's guildie had decided to buy gold, and then "shared the wealth"... AND the bans. Mighty nice of him >.>
Sounds like the very same thing might have happened to the OP.
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I also asked them if I created a New Account if I have permission to do such and haven't gotten a response back from that yet.
Here is basically a copy of the new ticket I put in and waiting for a response which is likely going to be denied, but I also put it here to show that I am not cursing at the staff, or anything like this although I am still upset about the whole thing who wouldn't be.
http://tinypic.com/r/21b4xf8/9 My Original new ticket.
http://tinypic.com/r/28wdj07/9 Me asking if I create a new account If I will be banned again just for making a new account and playing.
http://imgur.com/a/DbSUn Also just FYI, this is why I believe in telling the truth rather than lying, everyone on League OF Legends cries after being extremely toxic to others, yet they strong believed I Intentionally fed games of being forced support before the new Role System because I was getting stuck with players who couldn't play at all as a support most my games... Instead of lying like people told me to do and telling them my account was hacked, I told them the truth, and (Got unbanned) Obviously if I ever do something this bad again I would get banned for good. But its been 2 years so far and I haven't been banned from there. Just an example of what kind people are willing to do when they give you a chance and you prove to them you tell the truth.
Oh and wow being banned for advertising DAOC, I remember the old-school days too was actually better than today, which game was this
Even though I have done my best to respect the staff, and admin decision on this game unlike some people, I have to say speaking Freely, I think this is some serious bullshit, First time offense in a game and you are gone (No other penalty they can hand out for that.) Especially when they updated their Terms & Conditions so much over the years and when I signed up it didn't have all this in it...
So anyways I just want to make everyone aware to be careful of this game, (They are very strict) on making mistakes (You will get banned with no chance to start over.) and on top of this if you do decide to play anyways.
Be careful of 10.2, I know this is a little bit hard for some to understand because they use "German Legal Format, it was for me, but Basically it means...
https://albiononline.com/en/terms_and_conditions This is their full agreement.
. Don't do any type of "Real Money Trades" for any items in Albion.
. Don't Trade Items Across Games like I did, or Currency for Albion Currency.
. If you do a Large Transaction between someone in Albion be careful they could think you are buying items for real money you have to explain it the last section is very clear, and it didn't matter that I submitted Screen Shots of my out of game trades even though I was straight up and Truthful of what was traded for the currency.
. Also it came to my attention that people account share, Please also be aware that its against their Terms & Conditions, and this will get you banned, I know some people who do this there are ways around not being detected but for the common folk, They will check you via IP.
As far as my really last Opinion on this game, It has really taught me not to be so trustworthy between "Indie companies" especially founding them Back when I first found out my founders items could be looted I was upset and offered a "Refund" but instead, I put my faith into this game, When it looks like I should have accepted the refund I was offered, But who knew this would happen I didn't.
So pretty much if a company doesn't make over a Million Dollars in funding like "Star Citizen", or Crow Fall, I have learned my lesson here.
It is not 'their' fault it is your fault. All you are showing with this on going campaign is that you are an entitled, unpleasant individual.
Modify your behavior and play your next game without cheating.
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Whenever you play a Sandbox game, you are likely to run into a RMT issue some time or another especially when you do a lot of transactions in game like I do, and play the market and do this for hours a day on time sometimes which is what happened to me a couple of times in "Arche Age" and "EVE Online" but neither of those games banned me because it was like a one time thing out of many years of actually playing the game, and having my accounts around. Of course, if I went back, and did this on purpose to cheat, yes I would get banned, but I don't cheat games I have said.
And you honestly can't expect someone to never break a rule in their life time in a online MMORPG, it happens, even with people who post on forums, sometimes we Violate the rules by posting in the wrong section, or breaking a simple rule, but generally people don't get banned right off for that.
Um yes I understand this, although I provided them "Accurate Real Life Information", and they have my "PayPal Email" and Real Life information so the moment I would go back even without cheating, or Ban Evasion as they call it I would get banned again and lose my money and another account.
Obviously I build computers for a living, I know how to Browse the web, as well as the Hidden Internet, I know a ton of illegal sites which do Real World illegal activities, as well as sites hidden off the general internet for a good reason, and Obviously I know how to bypass a ban, I have like Thousands of VPN's, Secure Connections, Proxies, as well as, VM Software / Replacement Motherboards / drives, and I usually filter my connection through Multiple VPN and proxies when I don't want to get tracked, as well as using someone else's WI-FI if doing something I really don't want to be tracked to where I live.
So I know my stuff generally speaking without going into details on the actual illegal stuff or sharing that because of these forum rules...
I also know Albion Online, as a game lacks any type of Client Side Anti Cheat detection, and that evading a ban would be easy if I truly wanted, But my point is this, I am 100% legit I would rather be honest with the game company and games I play, be able to provide True and accurate information to them, and Feel I am doing the right thing. It is honestly up to them if they wan't to ban me or not, But fro my point of view it is still a bullshit thing for them to do, as my account was in good standing for over 3 years, never did anything wrong except for this little mistake recently, and honestly the way I feel about this in Real Life, is if their company is going to not give me a way to legally come back to the game, tell me if I come back I will be banned again, then F*** them, I tried, and I was nice about everything for the most part even though it was my fault this is how I truly feel about it... So yes moving on to a better game, that wouldn't do this to a long time customer for me is a must, I left them my final ticket, thanked them for their time and support, and its up to them should they change their mind.
The only thing I can do is Warn people to please read 10.2 of the Terms OF Service or & Terms and Conditions, and please don't make the same mistake I did, because I told them they should make it a little easier for people to understand.
Now you have created the suspicion that you engage in criminal activities on the hidden web.
Man up or shut up. You didn't make an unintentional mistake, you didn't misunderstand the TOS you cheated and got caught, the punishment is entirely appropriate.
And yes Truthfully I never read the Albion Online (TOS) since it was updated so I never read 10.2 at all I just knew Real Money Trading was illegal, not cross game trading or exchanges / Gifts and so on. If I knew this I wouldn't have wasted $175 in this game... Although when I did go back and read what they said I broke in the agreement, I couldn't really even understand it because there is a difference in legal wording the way Germany companies do it, and U.S based companies. I can understand Blizzard's Terms and Conditions better for example.
But what I am trying to say is if I truly wanted to cheat a online game, there are plenty of websites I can't legally list here because of the rules which contain cheats for (X) games and are easy enough to use, heck you can go for years cheating in (X) online games without getting banned if you know what you are doing, but its these kids these days that actually go online Botting for example go away from their keyboard leave it running all night and then come back wondering "Why the hell am I banned?" that have no Idea how to screw in a light bulb for that matter.
And as far as illegal activities, Nope I don't take part in them, which is why I won't ban evade to play this game, Generally what I am saying, is there are all kinds of hidden secrets on the internet when it comes to stuff that I can't talk about here One of these things being for example something that isn't illegal I can disclose here, Is that these Gold Selling sites who people actually buy from or do RMT with, illegally take your information such as "Real Life" information when you use your Credit Card, and sell this information on a big list, and then people who actually Pay for this "Usually in currency like "Bit Coin" for example, then they have all your info and can do what you wan't with it, this is why I would never trust a 3rd party gold sellers site.
As for bit coin, being the only currency or virtual currency, there is actually another one that very very very few people know about but that has to stay secret
What can I say though, knowledge is good.
Hiding behind difficult language and throwing red herrings about illegal activities on the dark web doesn't obscure the fact you are a cheat who got caught.
They did not say that "Cross Game Trading" would get you banned or paying in rocks would get you banned...
Obviously the Terms & Conditions changed over time and I didn't see this that is all that happened.
https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/40929-Account-ban-and-suspension-recap/?pageNo=1 Go look for yourself.
I have no problem with Anti Cheat Software, but there are only a few of them I will use on my system.
. Easy Anti Cheat
. Punk Buster
. Battleye
Anything that isn't transparent such as Xing Code, or Game Guard I won't have on here I tried Black Desert and found it copying files into my C:\windows directory I uninstalled the game and removed it from my system and had to go clean up my drive.
As for Reading the "Terms OF Service" back when I first played Albion I wasn't required to agree to a Terms OF Service that had any of this in it, and my Purchase came way before this existed so I had already bought the game, just like when I just backed "Crow Fall" I wasn't required to agree to an agreement saying I won't buy currency for Real Money, although they will likely add this into the game on release. http://imgur.com/a/gtP3A I actually played as I said before founders packs were even for sale.
And yes I read the Terms of the game before at one point but it was way back.
I mean I can understand a ban for actually, doing something like Exploiting Intentionally, or actually using hacking software or rather Cheating software to cheat the game, but a ban for a cross game trade just because I didn't see the new Terms & Conditions that say this isn't allowed is a bit much for a first offense when they could wipe my characters and make me start over and I would be fine with it, and then if it happens again Obviously I know. And creating another account isn't an option because they said they would ban it.
As far as being a pirate, yarrrrr its why i have 210 games on steam lol. http://imgur.com/a/bgXHk
Just saying no to Denuvo all together, I wouldn't mind Denuvo if they could make it Reputable like Steam.
I also bet a lot of people don't remember "Microsoft Ants either" or that "Age OF Empires / Rise OF Roam was the best out of all of them.
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As for this game... I'm pretty sure it's a lost cause. IF they give you a second chance, they're opening the door for everyone who exploits to do the same thing you did; AKA slander them across the internet until they yield. Pretty much not going to happen at this point. Not to mention it encourages the mindset that it's okay to cheat, because you're going to get a second chance when/if caught.
I'm sorry this happened to you if it was actually a genuine mistake, but I think you're pretty much f***ed when it comes to this game.
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And I disagree with one thing, There is a difference between getting banned for cheating, and getting banned just for accepting a "Trade In Game" accepting a trade no matter where it comes from is in game mechanics its allowed, what wasn't allowed was accepting a trade which I did across games trading for example "World OF Warcraft Gold" for "Albion Gold" wasn't allowed and I missed this.
What I think the company needs to do, and reason I post this here, Is I think they need to add a section to the Terms OF Service called (Game Rules.) which also mentioned in their "Terms & Conditions, and basically make it a clickable link and add to it so people can easier understand.
Example.
Chat Rules
. No Politcs
. No Religion
. No Cursing
Real Money Trading (Zero Tolerance Policy will result in ban.
. No trading any in game Items, property, In Game Resources, for real money.
. No buying in game Currency, Silver, or Gold, or Any items from within the game for Real Money
. No Cross game trading, or Exchanges between games.
. No abusing Bugs, or Exploits instead report them, abusing exploits, or bugs is a ban worthy offense.
. No use of 3rd party hacking programs to cheat.
. No Modifying the game client or software.
This would make it easier for people to understand, because you have to remember the format they are using in the Terms OF Service, and the Wording is from "Germany" comparing 10.2 to Blizzards Terms & Conditions for World OF Warcraft, I can understand theirs a lot better than Albion Online.
As far as actual cheating though, Cheaters are going to cheat I mean if someone actually downloads a third party hacking program for a game, and actually cheats it intentionally, or abuses an in game exploit over and over again with knowledge of what they are doing then obviously they deserve a ban.
SedrynTyros said: Also Yes generally this thread is, Don't buy a gold from 3rd parties, as well as Don't Exchange currency across games Example, World OF Warcraft Gold, for Albion Gold, as this is what got me banned pretty much was exchange across games I knew Real Money was a violation, but not giving away items and getting items from one game and getting currency or items in Albion.
Also if you read the last section of 10.2, It also says, That if you Receive a Large amount of currency in game, they will assume you bought it, now perhaps for example lets say I was playing Albion for a year, I have 500 Million Silver, and a Bank full of items, and I decide to just hand all my stuff over to you without letting you know in the game I am quitting Albion, Then the GM's could take this as a Real Money Trade, or Exchange, and ban you, which I think this is a little bit nuts, but its there.
10.1 The User understands, accepts and agrees that he has no interest, monetary or otherwise, in any feature or content contained in the Game, including without limitation the account registered to him, in-game/virtual items, in-game/virtual currency, in-game buildings, in-game land or in game characters (all or part of these herein also referred to as "Virtual Property").
10.2 The User is prohibited from selling, purchasing, renting, leasing, offering, accepting, disseminating or copying Virtual Property within and/or outside the Game - in whatever form - to third parties unless expressly permitted by these Terms and Conditions or the Game Rules. A system provided by the Game or by Sandbox Interactive to trade Virtual Property of the Game, constitutes such an exception. In this case, the transfer of Virtual Property from one User to the other is only permitted, if the transfer takes place - no matter if within or outside the Game - without consideration in exchange or if the consideration consists solely of Virtual Property of the Game and these are transferred within the Game itself or by a function provided by the Game. The acquisition of Virtual Property against consideration in any form other than Virtual Property of the Game is expressly prohibited. If the User trades or exchanges Virtual Property in a large-scale without a comparable value obtained within the Game, then it is assumed that the User violates this rule. The User is entitled to provide counter-evidence
Looking at 10.1 here I get confused right where it says "Monetary, or otherwise in any feature or content contained in the game???
Also if you read where it says Within, and or outside the game???
To me this means that if I "Selling" Virtual Property as defined in 10.1 to "Third parties" within the game I am breaking this agreement.
It also means that if I rent my private island out for like 10k silver a day to other individuals in game I am breaking this agreement, because it says within, and or outside of the game?
The part that might make this make sense is this ?
In general just trying to read this entire 10.2 section of the Terms OF Service really confuses me again, like honestly they explained what it means to me so I understand what they expect of me as a player if I were allowed to play again.
However if I compare this to Blizzard the way they word theirs is like 100x more easier for me to understand as a customer?
Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.
Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of World of Warcraft Accounts or BNET Accounts (each an “Account”). You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. Blizzard owns, has licensed, or otherwise has rights to all of the content that appears in the Game. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including without limitation the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with any Account. Blizzard does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the “real world” of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for “real” money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game.Elder Scrolls Online
So out of curiosity why do all these other games, have agreement sections that are way easier to understand than "Albion Online" which has me all confused just trying to get through the paragraph?
Am I the only one who has trouble with it?