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Visionary Realms Secures Series A Funding - Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen - MMORPG.com

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imageVisionary Realms Secures Series A Funding - Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen - MMORPG.com

Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen News - Visionary Realms has announced that it has secured a round of Series A funding, indicating that preferred stock has been sold for investment purposes. The additional funding means that the team can expand across nearly every department. In addition, Pantheon will soon be able to begin inviting testers and focus groups in to try a pre-alpha version of the game.

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  • BcudaBcuda Member UncommonPosts: 164
    outstanding!
  • AeliousAelious Member RarePosts: 3,521
    Great to hear. Sounds like the snowball is getting bigger and bigger!
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Picking up some real momentum it seems.

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  • TulerezzerTulerezzer Member UncommonPosts: 15
    edited April 2017
    In This Article: Some ACTUAL good news for the MMO genre.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    Fantastic news.

  • April-RainApril-Rain Member UncommonPosts: 316
    Brilliant, really looking forward to this title

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Talking about making my day. Would be nice if this shortened the time till release =-) Im so rdy to play now!!!!!
  • PottedPlant22PottedPlant22 Member RarePosts: 800
    Wow. Just wow. Let's not downplay this at all. People (smart people) don't just throw their money around. They do research on the product and its current financials. To be more specific they pay other people to evaluate the product for them. What great news. Very happy for them and those interested in the game. Very encouraging and really interested now to see that livestream tomorrow. :)
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    This is good news for Pantheon.  I just wish they had approached financing like this in the first place.  Maybe the fact that there is traditional funding for big games will persuade future companies to pursue more traditional routes, rather than immediately jumping to the various crowd-funding sources.

    Sure, traditional funding takes more organization, planning and preparation, but don't we gamers want those types of people making games for us?  I think we probably should.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901

    Mendel said:

    This is good news for Pantheon.  I just wish they had approached financing like this in the first place.  Maybe the fact that there is traditional funding for big games will persuade future companies to pursue more traditional routes, rather than immediately jumping to the various crowd-funding sources.

    Sure, traditional funding takes more organization, planning and preparation, but don't we gamers want those types of people making games for us?  I think we probably should.



    Sounds all nice but Pantheon did it the right way for what they were doing. No Development team has looked at making a CC, DPS, Support, Tank game like EQ1 since DAoC. Fans of that type of game has not been considered worth funding in 18 years. Someone needed to make a leap of faith and prove that type of fan base is still out there and VR proved that to be true. How? By making it this far off fans who want this game made. Of course investors are now going, wait a min, there is money to be made here. Can I get in on the action. I thank VR for looking at gamers like me and said "We will make a game for you"
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936


    Wow. Just wow. Let's not downplay this at all. People (smart people) don't just throw their money around. They do research on the product and its current financials. To be more specific they pay other people to evaluate the product for them. What great news. Very happy for them and those interested in the game. Very encouraging and really interested now to see that livestream tomorrow. :)



    hmmm yes and no. There are people out there, with a lot of money who just invest in things because "why not".

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901

    Sovrath said:





    Wow. Just wow. Let's not downplay this at all. People (smart people) don't just throw their money around. They do research on the product and its current financials. To be more specific they pay other people to evaluate the product for them. What great news. Very happy for them and those interested in the game. Very encouraging and really interested now to see that livestream tomorrow. :)






    hmmm yes and no. There are people out there, with a lot of money who just invest in things because "why not".






    Also people invest because they think the vision of a company will make them money.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    While this sounds like great news, I just wonder how far out of the realm of needing crowdfunding this puts them? Will they still make their return to KS and the like?

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901

    Distopia said:

    While this sounds like great news, I just wonder how far out of the realm of needing crowdfunding this puts them? Will they still make their return to KS and the like?



    In the link I posted above VR says. This closed Series A of their funding and moves them to Series B. What that means I am not sure. Is Series A what they needed to get to launch?
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Nanfoodle said:



    Distopia said:


    While this sounds like great news, I just wonder how far out of the realm of needing crowdfunding this puts them? Will they still make their return to KS and the like?






    In the link I posted above VR says. This closed Series A of their funding and moves them to Series B. What that means I am not sure. Is Series A what they needed to get to launch?


     I'm not sure about that either, that part is the meter to gauge how great this news truly is, if it does get them to launch, that will certainly heighten my confidence in the product for sure. 

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936

    Nanfoodle said:



    Sovrath said:








    Wow. Just wow. Let's not downplay this at all. People (smart people) don't just throw their money around. They do research on the product and its current financials. To be more specific they pay other people to evaluate the product for them. What great news. Very happy for them and those interested in the game. Very encouraging and really interested now to see that livestream tomorrow. :)









    hmmm yes and no. There are people out there, with a lot of money who just invest in things because "why not".











    Also people invest because they think the vision of a company will make them money.



    Yes that's true but my point was just because a person puts money into a project doesn't mean that research was done and that it was determined that it would definitely make money. It's not a smoking bullet of quality. I say this as a huge fan of this project.

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130

    Nanfoodle said:



    Sovrath said:








    Wow. Just wow. Let's not downplay this at all. People (smart people) don't just throw their money around. They do research on the product and its current financials. To be more specific they pay other people to evaluate the product for them. What great news. Very happy for them and those interested in the game. Very encouraging and really interested now to see that livestream tomorrow. :)









    hmmm yes and no. There are people out there, with a lot of money who just invest in things because "why not".











    Also people invest because they think the vision of a company will make them money.




    I think that's the point...... People DON'T invest in something unless they're confident that they can make their money back. So the real question is how much stock was sold? How much say do the investors get as far as the direction of the game? What concessions were agreed upon? What were the agreed-upon targets for returns and what are the consequences of not making those? Will there be a board of directors and how much power will they have? 

    I just think there are other factors now, which could influence the original vision. 

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057

    Distopia said:



    Nanfoodle said:my





    Distopia said:



    While this sounds like great news, I just wonder how far out of the realm of needing crowdfunding this puts them? Will they still make their return to KS and the like?









    In the link I posted above VR says. This closed Series A of their funding and moves them to Series B. What that means I am not sure. Is Series A what they needed to get to launch?




     I'm not sure about that either, that part is the meter to gauge how great this news truly is, if it does get them to launch, that will certainly heighten my confidence in the product for sure. 


    My guess is you don't move to series B funding if Series A was sufficient to complete and deliver a final product.

    No reason to share the profits any further than necessary.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901

    CrazKanuk said:



    Nanfoodle said:





    Sovrath said:











    Wow. Just wow. Let's not downplay this at all. People (smart people) don't just throw their money around. They do research on the product and its current financials. To be more specific they pay other people to evaluate the product for them. What great news. Very happy for them and those interested in the game. Very encouraging and really interested now to see that livestream tomorrow. :)












    hmmm yes and no. There are people out there, with a lot of money who just invest in things because "why not".
















    Also people invest because they think the vision of a company will make them money.






    I think that's the point...... People DON'T invest in something unless they're confident that they can make their money back. So the real question is how much stock was sold? How much say do the investors get as far as the direction of the game? What concessions were agreed upon? What were the agreed-upon targets for returns and what are the consequences of not making those? Will there be a board of directors and how much power will they have? 

    I just think there are other factors now, which could influence the original vision. 



    VR Chairman Christopher Rowan said they would not take on investors that didnt follow the vision of Pantheon. So thats a wild claim but anything could happen.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Kyleran said:



    Distopia said:





    Nanfoodle said:my







    Distopia said:




    While this sounds like great news, I just wonder how far out of the realm of needing crowdfunding this puts them? Will they still make their return to KS and the like?












    In the link I posted above VR says. This closed Series A of their funding and moves them to Series B. What that means I am not sure. Is Series A what they needed to get to launch?






     I'm not sure about that either, that part is the meter to gauge how great this news truly is, if it does get them to launch, that will certainly heighten my confidence in the product for sure. 




    My guess is you don't move to series B funding if Series A was sufficient to complete and deliver a final product.

    No reason to share the profits any further than necessary.



    Sounds like sound reasoning. 

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901

    Distopia said:



    Kyleran said:





    Distopia said:







    Nanfoodle said:my









    Distopia said:





    While this sounds like great news, I just wonder how far out of the realm of needing crowdfunding this puts them? Will they still make their return to KS and the like?















    In the link I posted above VR says. This closed Series A of their funding and moves them to Series B. What that means I am not sure. Is Series A what they needed to get to launch?








     I'm not sure about that either, that part is the meter to gauge how great this news truly is, if it does get them to launch, that will certainly heighten my confidence in the product for sure. 






    My guess is you don't move to series B funding if Series A was sufficient to complete and deliver a final product.

    No reason to share the profits any further than necessary.





    Sounds like sound reasoning. 



    Unless they are planing on their future and Series B is first expansion funding. The statement is so vague.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    edited April 2017


    Nanfoodle said:






    Unless they are planing on their future and Series B is first expansion funding. The statement is so vague.




    True, that said.. the vagueness does make me lean toward what kyleran said, if this totally funded them to launch I think they'd make that point clear. There is an in between though as well, as it could just as easily mean Getting investor A opens the door to B, helping avoid looking elsewhere, such as crowdfunding.

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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    This is very good news.

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130

    Nanfoodle said:



    CrazKanuk said:





    Nanfoodle said:







    Sovrath said:














    Wow. Just wow. Let's not downplay this at all. People (smart people) don't just throw their money around. They do research on the product and its current financials. To be more specific they pay other people to evaluate the product for them. What great news. Very happy for them and those interested in the game. Very encouraging and really interested now to see that livestream tomorrow. :)















    hmmm yes and no. There are people out there, with a lot of money who just invest in things because "why not".





















    Also people invest because they think the vision of a company will make them money.








    I think that's the point...... People DON'T invest in something unless they're confident that they can make their money back. So the real question is how much stock was sold? How much say do the investors get as far as the direction of the game? What concessions were agreed upon? What were the agreed-upon targets for returns and what are the consequences of not making those? Will there be a board of directors and how much power will they have? 

    I just think there are other factors now, which could influence the original vision. 






    VR Chairman Christopher Rowan said they would not take on investors that didnt follow the vision of Pantheon. So thats a wild claim but anything could happen.



    Hey, thanks for that, I wasn't aware that this was said. I mean I'm sure anything could happen, but I'm glad that they, hopefully, expressly looked at investors who were interested exclusively in their vision. Kinda hoping that they don't need to do Series B, to be honest. Fewer cooks in the kitchen. 

    Crazkanuk

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