If a game wants to be a true role-playing that attempts to replicate real life in the real world, then they're kinda stuck with the possibility of non-consensual PvP.
The problem with trying to make a game that mimicked "Real Life" is that Real Life it's so totally Pay to Win, No one would ever want to play it.
That's why if an real MMORPG wasn't so totally Pay to Win, people might want to play in such a world to experience what it may have been like to live at certain points in certain places in the past (possibly), or to experience what it's like to live in a fantasy world that isn't totally Pay to Win.
if we are going to try and re-invent real life, into some fairy tale, removing murder might also be a good place to start.
If you do that, you won't be able to kill and loot AI mobs either.
Killing Computer AI is now Murder?
it's a brave new world!
Killing other people's characters in a game is murder? Maybe if you're actually in the Matrix.
Well, most PvE players don't and won't play PvP games, or, in cases like WoW, don't play on PvP servers.
So, anyway, thanks for showing you have less a grasp then I do in regards to games, I guess
LMAO! Laughable indeed!
Yeah, again more wild conjecture, no facts, weak opinions based on no facts and at the end the best statement to date. I have no grasp. Kids these days. So anyway when you want to present a discussion based on fact, and not what you think, or your ill-infomed opinions, you go ahead and let me know. Until then you have zero credibility and as I suspected, and you confirmed your mediocre game play is most likely why you see cheats around every corner.
Also, your history on Esports is way off. I will just quote wiki seeing as how you have no clue what a fact is anyway. Read this While some lan play was involved, it was not the beginning of e-sports.
Well, most PvE players don't and won't play PvP games, or, in cases like WoW, don't play on PvP servers.
So, anyway, thanks for showing you have less a grasp then I do in regards to games, I guess
LMAO! Laughable indeed!
Yeah, again more wild conjecture, no facts, weak opinions based on no facts and at the end the best statement to date. I have no grasp. Kids these days. So anyway when you want to present a discussion based on fact, and not what you think, or your ill-infomed opinions, you go ahead and let me know. Until then you have zero credibility and as I suspected, and you confirmed your mediocre game play is most liek why you see cheats around every corner.
Also, your history on Esports is way off. I willjust quote wiki seeing as how you have no clue what a fact is anyway. Read this While some lan play was involved, it was not the beginning of e-sports.
There was a game called Fireteam made by a company called Multitude in the late 1990s. It was really an under appreciated e-sport game that was way ahead of its time. It was online, included voice technology, had various match modes from capture the flag to "gunball" (football with guns), to basetag to good old fashioned death match. There were extensive stats for each player as their "Company" (team, guild, clan, whatever)
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Well, most PvE players don't and won't play PvP games, or, in cases like WoW, don't play on PvP servers.
So, anyway, thanks for showing you have less a grasp then I do in regards to games, I guess
LMAO! Laughable indeed!
Yeah, again more wild conjecture, no facts, weak opinions based on no facts and at the end the best statement to date. I have no grasp. Kids these days. So anyway when you want to present a discussion based on fact, and not what you think, or your ill-infomed opinions, you go ahead and let me know. Until then you have zero credibility and as I suspected, and you confirmed your mediocre game play is most likely why you see cheats around every corner.
Also, your history on Esports is way off. I will just quote wiki seeing as how you have no clue what a fact is anyway. Read this While some lan play was involved, it was not the beginning of e-sports.
One of the reasons it's fun for me to post on this forum is because my thoughts, ideas, words, and deeds* are cooperating or competing with other posters in a virtual (albeit very limited) world (in this case an Internet forum).
*For example, I can choose whether to post or not to post. I can choose whether to read or not to read.
You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. I really wish developers and publishers would take that to heart. Games, and especially MMORPGs, would be so much better as a whole if they did.
Mythic managed to balance three factions, each with different races and classes (with only a few similarities) for PvP and PvE. It wasn't perfect, but it was a thousand times better than any game today. Hell, Blizzard homogenized and simplified all of their classes, yet they still can't balance WoW to save their lives. I'm thoroughly convinced that their balance team is just a bunch of keyboards hooked up to a server and strewn about in a penguin sanctuary. Wait, no, a bunch of penguins flopping around on keyboards actually have a chance of doing something positive. My bad.
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD.
Thanks for the laugh, you know the Wiki-Article you linked.. says "I'm right" in fact, supports everything I said to be correct.
Love it when people do that to themselves. Now, I know, you're gonna say something stupid like "No it don' " but really.. read the 1972 to 1989 era.. that was all Single Player Kiosk or Multi-Player Lan.
Even today, people play across private networks when doing professional e-Sports, which is really just a glorified Lan Party.
People are still calling PvPer's sociopaths for killing in a video game but killing Elvish women and children are okay as long as nobody is controlling them?
People who don't play PvP games are still talking about what goes on in PvP games?
Non-PvPers are still suggesting proven failed methods like "flagging" for PvP games?
What is the gaming world coming to?
I don't know about other people, but I want to play Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Braveheart, Game of Thrones, Seven Samurai, or the Hakkenden. I don't want to play Strawberry Shortcake, Care Bears, Friends, or Leave it to Beaver. However, I still don't want to play any MMORPG PvP games with vertical level progression and unrealistic vertical gear progression.
It's described as Game of Thrones meets EVE Online. There will be vertical progression but like EVE it will be less pronounced than many other titles and it's progression over time / no grinding involved.
So if you get in at the start you will never be behind the curve.
Could or could not pan out. I through like 25$ at it because at that amount of buy in I won't be upset if it flops. Might take a bit more to buy in these days.
@Eldurian - I'll take a look. But, at this point, I'm not sure if I want to play any MMORPG that doesn't have pretty much each and every feature, system, and mechanic I want. And one that doesn't have the features, systems, and mechanics I don't want. I'm tired of settling for a game that is less than something like actual Shadowrun, Dungeons & Dragons, Call of Cthulhu, Vampire the Masquerade, Star Wars the RPG, Pathfinder, or GURPs online. An MMORPG that actually does its upmost best to be a pencil-and-paper rpg online. A realistic, dynamic, and true role-playing game online in a persistent virtual world.
Some people may think some of my ideas are outlandish or unfeasible or whatever. I don't care. All I'm doing is trying to apply the basic principals of PnP RPGs to MMORPGs. Some people may believe it's impossible, but that doesn't really matter to me. Many things that once seemed impossible in the past are now everyday occurrences and realities that are basically taken for granted. We never know until we try. We can never even come close to reaching an ideal if we don't strive for it. Perfection may be impossible to achieve in any field or in any endeavor for any person or group of people in this world, but we won't even ever come close to it if we simply give up and decide not to try.
Aww @cantankerousmage don't take it that way. While it's pretty evident that there are a lot of people that would not play your idea game, the harsh truth is, by and large, other gamers simply don't care if you stop playing MMO's.. one player "quitting" is not going to make any change to a industry were a single game has millions of subs, and people happy with the games that are out.
Aww @cantankerousmage don't take it that way. While it's pretty evident that there are a lot of people that would not play your idea game, the harsh truth is, by and large, other gamers simply don't care if you stop playing MMO's.. one player "quitting" is not going to make any change to a industry were a single game has millions of subs, and people happy with the games that are out.
Of course there are a lot of people in the world that wouldn't play my ideal game. There are over 7.5 billion people in this world, many of whom do not have computers or don't have access to the internet. But if you mean that a lot of people who like playing MMORPGs would not play my ideal game, I don't think you or I have the authority or enough widespread knowledge of the likes, dislikes, opinions, and desires of all people who play MMORPGs in order to make such a declaration either way. But even if we were to believe that a lot of people who play MMORPGs wouldn't like my ideal game, what about all the people who play pencil-and-paper rpgs? Might they be more interested in an MMORPG that actually did its best to be more like the games they participate in and enjoy? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe not. Anyway, there's no way to know for sure unless such a game actually existed and was available to play.
As for people not caring about whether I play MMOs or not, I totally understand and agree. Was simply making a statement. I don't expect strangers to care about my personal choice of legal and lawful hobbies and brands of entertainments. I don't expect strangers to care about anything I do, as long as I'm not hurting them, causing them trouble, or otherwise getting in their way.
EDIT: If people are really happy with the games that are out, why do they spend so much time on forums instead of just playing them?
False dichotomy, the existence of people who do not like any of the games that are out, but still want to play an MMORPG undoubtedly includes more than one person that would never play the kind of game that you have sketched (not described you are much too vague for that), I wouldn't be at all surprised that there are very, very few people who would like to play a game like your sketch.
False dichotomy, the existence of people who do not like any of the games that are out, but still want to play an MMORPG undoubtedly includes more than one person that would never play the kind of game that you have sketched (not described you are much too vague for that), I wouldn't be at all surprised that there are very, very few people who would like to play a game like your sketch.
I have describe the kind of game I'd like to play in other threads. Don't bother to read them. I don't care what you think in any way whatsoever. In fact, I could not care less.
I wouldn't be surprised if you have no idea what you're talking about. I wouldn't be surprised if you wouldn't know a good game if it ran up and hit you in the face with a 2x4.
Aww @cantankerousmage don't take it that way. While it's pretty evident that there are a lot of people that would not play your idea game, the harsh truth is, by and large, other gamers simply don't care if you stop playing MMO's.. one player "quitting" is not going to make any change to a industry were a single game has millions of subs, and people happy with the games that are out.
Of course there are a lot of people in the world that wouldn't play my ideal game. There are over 7.5 billion people in this world, many of whom do not have computers or don't have access to the internet. But if you mean that a lot of people who like playing MMORPGs would not play my ideal game, I don't think you or I have the authority or enough widespread knowledge of the likes, dislikes, opinions, and desires of all people who play MMORPGs in order to make such a declaration either way. But even if we were to believe that a lot of people who play MMORPGs wouldn't like my ideal game, what about all the people who play pencil-and-paper rpgs? Might they be more interested in an MMORPG that actually did its best to be more like the games they participate in and enjoy? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe not. Anyway, there's no way to know for sure unless such a game actually existed and was available to play.
As for people not caring about whether I play MMOs or not, I totally understand and agree. Was simply making a statement. I don't expect strangers to care about my personal choice of legal and lawful hobbies and brands of entertainments. I don't expect strangers to care about anything I do, as long as I'm not hurting them, causing them trouble, or otherwise getting in their way.
EDIT: If people are really happy with the games that are out, why do they spend so much time on forums instead of just playing them?
2 Points: Much like you know before even playing an MMO if you want to play it not, believe this or not.. there are a massive amount of gamers that have same feels, and many of the things you listed, are about as appealing to the majority of gamers as a liquidated Twinkie smothered in broccoli sauce..
Now, to be fair, you have no idea if you will like it unless you try it, but I'm gonna bet, you already know ahead of time, if that sounds like something you will enjoy.
You're not special in that regard.
As for my many posts, meh.. I blame getting suckered into these lame discussions as my excuse.
Everyone gather round. ZionBane speaks for all gamers that play MMORPGs now, in the future, and yet to be born. He even speaks for all those that no longer play, can no longer play, refuse to play, or are dead and buried with keyboards in hand.
ZionBane's word is law. If you do not agree with the decrees of ZionBane, you are a fool, an idiot, or an otherwise worthless excuse for a gamer. Perhaps even for a human being. I pity those who do not choose to follow him. Bow to him now or kneel in the dirt later. Though whether or not you are still breathing will be be totally up to his royal whim and majestic pleasure. He is the supreme lord and king of all gamers everywhere past, present, and future. Stand against him, and you will know fear as you have never known fear before.
Everyone gather round. ZionBane speaks for all gamers that play MMORPGs now, in the future, and yet to be born. He even speaks for all those that no longer play, can no longer play, refuse to play, or are dead and buried with keyboards in hand.
ZionBane's word is law. If you do not agree with the decrees of ZionBane, you are a fool, an idiot, or an otherwise worthless excuse for a gamer. Perhaps even for a human being. I pity those who do not choose to follow him. Bow to him now or kneel in the dirt later. Though whether or not you are still breathing will be be totally up to his royal whim and majestic pleasure. He is the supreme lord and king of all gamers everywhere past, present, and future. Stand against him, and you will know fear as you have never known fear before.
Your praise is noted lowly peasant, rise and be recognized as one of my legion.
Thanks for the laugh, you know the Wiki-Article you linked.. says "I'm right" in fact, supports everything I said to be correct.
Love it when people do that to themselves. Now, I know, you're gonna say something stupid like "No it don' " but really.. read the 1972 to 1989 era.. that was all Single Player Kiosk or Multi-Player Lan.
Even today, people play across private networks when doing professional e-Sports, which is really just a glorified Lan Party.
Bubble Busted?
No, it's not busted at all. Here is that entire passage you reference, I mention standalone arcade games, and not one mention of anything to do with Lan. SO yes, much like you I love it when they do it to themselves...bubble busted. I think it is.
The earliest known video game competition took place on 19 October 1972 at Stanford University for the game Spacewar. Stanford students were invited to an "Intergalactic spacewar olympics" whose grand prize was a year's subscription for Rolling Stone, with Bruce Baumgart winning the five-man-free-for-all tournament and Tovar and Robert E. Maas winning the Team Competition.[12] The Space Invaders Championship held by Atari in 1980 was the earliest large scale video game competition, attracting more than 10,000 participants across the United States, establishing competitive gaming as a mainstream hobby.[13]
During the 1970s and 1980s, video game players and tournaments begun being featured in popular websites and magazines including Life and Time.[18] One of the most well known classic arcade game players is Billy Mitchell, for his listing as holding the records for high scores in six games including Pac-Man and Donkey Kong in the 1985 issue of the Guinness Book of World Records.[19] Televised eSports events aired during this period included the American show Starcade which ran between 1982 and 1984 airing a total of 133 episodes, on which contestants would attempt to beat each other's high scores on an arcade game.[20] A video game tournament was included as part of TV show That's Incredible!,[21] and tournaments were also featured as part of the plot of various films, including 1982's Tron.[22]
So, wrong again. Nice try at changing your story though. Again, go ahead and let me know when you have a fact you want to share.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
I refuse to play any game where it's not consensual. I was trying to get into BDO, got ganked like 3 times. Haven't touched it in probably 6 mos. Just killed it for me. Too bad. Beautiful game too.
Everyone gather round. ZionBane speaks for all gamers that play MMORPGs now, in the future, and yet to be born. He even speaks for all those that no longer play, can no longer play, refuse to play, or are dead and buried with keyboards in hand.
ZionBane's word is law. If you do not agree with the decrees of ZionBane, you are a fool, an idiot, or an otherwise worthless excuse for a gamer. Perhaps even for a human being. I pity those who do not choose to follow him. Bow to him now or kneel in the dirt later. Though whether or not you are still breathing will be be totally up to his royal whim and majestic pleasure. He is the supreme lord and king of all gamers everywhere past, present, and future. Stand against him, and you will know fear as you have never known fear before.
Your praise is noted lowly peasant, rise and be recognized as one of my legion.
Are you kidding? I spit on your legion. My soldiers use its standards to wipe themselves.
Thanks for the laugh, you know the Wiki-Article you linked.. says "I'm right" in fact, supports everything I said to be correct.
Love it when people do that to themselves. Now, I know, you're gonna say something stupid like "No it don' " but really.. read the 1972 to 1989 era.. that was all Single Player Kiosk or Multi-Player Lan.
Even today, people play across private networks when doing professional e-Sports, which is really just a glorified Lan Party.
Bubble Busted?
No, it's not busted at all. Here is that entire passage you reference, I mention standalone arcade games, and not one mention of anything to do with Lan. SO yes, much like you I love it when they do it to themselves...bubble busted. I think it is.
The earliest known video game competition took place on 19 October 1972 at Stanford University for the game Spacewar. Stanford students were invited to an "Intergalactic spacewar olympics" whose grand prize was a year's subscription for Rolling Stone, with Bruce Baumgart winning the five-man-free-for-all tournament and Tovar and Robert E. Maas winning the Team Competition.[12] The Space Invaders Championship held by Atari in 1980 was the earliest large scale video game competition, attracting more than 10,000 participants across the United States, establishing competitive gaming as a mainstream hobby.[13]
During the 1970s and 1980s, video game players and tournaments begun being featured in popular websites and magazines including Life and Time.[18] One of the most well known classic arcade game players is Billy Mitchell, for his listing as holding the records for high scores in six games including Pac-Man and Donkey Kong in the 1985 issue of the Guinness Book of World Records.[19] Televised eSports events aired during this period included the American show Starcade which ran between 1982 and 1984 airing a total of 133 episodes, on which contestants would attempt to beat each other's high scores on an arcade game.[20] A video game tournament was included as part of TV show That's Incredible!,[21] and tournaments were also featured as part of the plot of various films, including 1982's Tron.[22]
So, wrong again. Nice try at changing your story though. Again, go ahead and let me know when you have a fact you want to share.
What can I say... you even posted it too, but I dont think you auctually read it, so... lets look at that again.
"The earliest known video game competition took place on 19 October 1972 at Stanford University for the game Spacewar. Stanford students were invited to an "Intergalactic spacewar olympics" whose grand prize was a year's subscription for Rolling Stone, with Bruce Baumgart winning the five-man-free-for-all tournament and Tovar and Robert E. Maas winning the Team Competition."
Take a moment and read that again "5 man free for all" .. "team competition" that means several people were playing with this game.. wit each other.. at the same time.. that means their computers were connected to each other.. and back then.. it was gonna be a hard line wired system.. just like a LAN system.
What can I say... you even posted it too, but I dont think you auctually read it, so... lets look at that again.
"The earliest known video game competition took place on 19 October 1972 at Stanford University for the game Spacewar. Stanford students were invited to an "Intergalactic spacewar olympics" whose grand prize was a year's subscription for Rolling Stone, with Bruce Baumgart winning the five-man-free-for-all tournament and Tovar and Robert E. Maas winning the Team Competition."
Take a moment and read that again "5 man free for all" .. "team competition" that means several people were playing with this game.. wit each other.. at the same time.. that means their computers were connected to each other.. and back then.. it was gonna be a hard line wired system.. just like a LAN system.
And It was right in the opening paragraph too...
That's gotta hurt.
@ZionBane - I knew you would say that. Ergo I did some more reading to absolutely refute your absolute lack of knowledge. Keeping with the theme of this...uhmm I guess discussion, I feel more like I am educating you, but whatever. here you go.
1 computer, 5 sets of controllers, I did read, and I read the source article that this was derived from. So not like a lan at all, more like a console if anything.
One computer...not wired in separate computers, one.
SO yeah, that must hurt...a lot. It's called research, you should learn how to do it.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
I refuse to play any game where it's not consensual. I was trying to get into BDO, got ganked like 3 times. Haven't touched it in probably 6 mos. Just killed it for me. Too bad. Beautiful game too.
It's your choise just like I refuse to play carebear MMos.
I refuse to play any game where it's not consensual. I was trying to get into BDO, got ganked like 3 times. Haven't touched it in probably 6 mos. Just killed it for me. Too bad. Beautiful game too.
It's your choise just like I refuse to play carebear MMos.
Well, the money is in casual games as thee are more people playing them than PvP centric games. People don't want to play a game, build up their character and items, only to be killed by some asshat who has nothing better to do. If it was part of the game mechanics, maybe, just PvP no way. So I guess you won't be playing anything but EVE, or ASSHAT CENTRAL as it is known.
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Or maybe Sword Art Online..
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
There was a game called Fireteam made by a company called Multitude in the late 1990s. It was really an under appreciated e-sport game that was way ahead of its time. It was online, included voice technology, had various match modes from capture the flag to "gunball" (football with guns), to basetag to good old fashioned death match. There were extensive stats for each player as their "Company" (team, guild, clan, whatever)
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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*Yawn*
Call me when you have something other then ignorance and insults to say.
*For example, I can choose whether to post or not to post. I can choose whether to read or not to read.
Mythic managed to balance three factions, each with different races and classes (with only a few similarities) for PvP and PvE. It wasn't perfect, but it was a thousand times better than any game today. Hell, Blizzard homogenized and simplified all of their classes, yet they still can't balance WoW to save their lives. I'm thoroughly convinced that their balance team is just a bunch of keyboards hooked up to a server and strewn about in a penguin sanctuary. Wait, no, a bunch of penguins flopping around on keyboards actually have a chance of doing something positive. My bad.
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD.
#IStandWithVic
Thanks for the laugh, you know the Wiki-Article you linked.. says "I'm right" in fact, supports everything I said to be correct.
Love it when people do that to themselves. Now, I know, you're gonna say something stupid like "No it don' " but really.. read the 1972 to 1989 era.. that was all Single Player Kiosk or Multi-Player Lan.
Even today, people play across private networks when doing professional e-Sports, which is really just a glorified Lan Party.
Bubble Busted?
Have you looked into Crowfall?
It's described as Game of Thrones meets EVE Online. There will be vertical progression but like EVE it will be less pronounced than many other titles and it's progression over time / no grinding involved.
So if you get in at the start you will never be behind the curve.
Could or could not pan out. I through like 25$ at it because at that amount of buy in I won't be upset if it flops. Might take a bit more to buy in these days.
Some people may think some of my ideas are outlandish or unfeasible or whatever. I don't care. All I'm doing is trying to apply the basic principals of PnP RPGs to MMORPGs. Some people may believe it's impossible, but that doesn't really matter to me. Many things that once seemed impossible in the past are now everyday occurrences and realities that are basically taken for granted. We never know until we try. We can never even come close to reaching an ideal if we don't strive for it. Perfection may be impossible to achieve in any field or in any endeavor for any person or group of people in this world, but we won't even ever come close to it if we simply give up and decide not to try.
As for people not caring about whether I play MMOs or not, I totally understand and agree. Was simply making a statement. I don't expect strangers to care about my personal choice of legal and lawful hobbies and brands of entertainments. I don't expect strangers to care about anything I do, as long as I'm not hurting them, causing them trouble, or otherwise getting in their way.
EDIT: If people are really happy with the games that are out, why do they spend so much time on forums instead of just playing them?
EDIT: If people are really happy with the games that are out, why do they spend so much time on forums instead of just playing them?
Read more at http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/463770/the-time-for-non-consensual-pvp-has-come-and-gone/p10#93TA4BlIFEoL6iur.99
False dichotomy, the existence of people who do not like any of the games that are out, but still want to play an MMORPG undoubtedly includes more than one person that would never play the kind of game that you have sketched (not described you are much too vague for that), I wouldn't be at all surprised that there are very, very few people who would like to play a game like your sketch.
I have describe the kind of game I'd like to play in other threads. Don't bother to read them. I don't care what you think in any way whatsoever. In fact, I could not care less.
I wouldn't be surprised if you have no idea what you're talking about. I wouldn't be surprised if you wouldn't know a good game if it ran up and hit you in the face with a 2x4.
Now, to be fair, you have no idea if you will like it unless you try it, but I'm gonna bet, you already know ahead of time, if that sounds like something you will enjoy.
You're not special in that regard.
As for my many posts, meh.. I blame getting suckered into these lame discussions as my excuse.
ZionBane's word is law. If you do not agree with the decrees of ZionBane, you are a fool, an idiot, or an otherwise worthless excuse for a gamer. Perhaps even for a human being. I pity those who do not choose to follow him. Bow to him now or kneel in the dirt later. Though whether or not you are still breathing will be be totally up to his royal whim and majestic pleasure. He is the supreme lord and king of all gamers everywhere past, present, and future. Stand against him, and you will know fear as you have never known fear before.
The earliest known video game competition took place on 19 October 1972 at Stanford University for the game Spacewar. Stanford students were invited to an "Intergalactic spacewar olympics" whose grand prize was a year's subscription for Rolling Stone, with Bruce Baumgart winning the five-man-free-for-all tournament and Tovar and Robert E. Maas winning the Team Competition.[12] The Space Invaders Championship held by Atari in 1980 was the earliest large scale video game competition, attracting more than 10,000 participants across the United States, establishing competitive gaming as a mainstream hobby.[13]
In the summer of 1980, Walter Day founded a high score record keeping organization called Twin Galaxies.[14] The organization went on to help promote video games and publicize its records through publications such as the Guinness Book of World Records, and in 1983 it created the U.S. National Video Game Team. The team was involved in competitions, such as running the Video Game Masters Tournament for Guinness World Records[15][16]and sponsoring the North American Video Game Challenge tournament.[17]
During the 1970s and 1980s, video game players and tournaments begun being featured in popular websites and magazines including Life and Time.[18] One of the most well known classic arcade game players is Billy Mitchell, for his listing as holding the records for high scores in six games including Pac-Man and Donkey Kong in the 1985 issue of the Guinness Book of World Records.[19] Televised eSports events aired during this period included the American show Starcade which ran between 1982 and 1984 airing a total of 133 episodes, on which contestants would attempt to beat each other's high scores on an arcade game.[20] A video game tournament was included as part of TV show That's Incredible!,[21] and tournaments were also featured as part of the plot of various films, including 1982's Tron.[22]
So, wrong again. Nice try at changing your story though. Again, go ahead and let me know when you have a fact you want to share.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
Are you kidding? I spit on your legion. My soldiers use its standards to wipe themselves.
Ummm @Hatefull
What can I say... you even posted it too, but I dont think you auctually read it, so... lets look at that again.
"The earliest known video game competition took place on 19 October 1972 at Stanford University for the game Spacewar. Stanford students were invited to an "Intergalactic spacewar olympics" whose grand prize was a year's subscription for Rolling Stone, with Bruce Baumgart winning the five-man-free-for-all tournament and Tovar and Robert E. Maas winning the Team Competition."
Take a moment and read that again "5 man free for all" .. "team competition" that means several people were playing with this game.. wit each other.. at the same time.. that means their computers were connected to each other.. and back then.. it was gonna be a hard line wired system.. just like a LAN system.
And It was right in the opening paragraph too...
That's gotta hurt.
1 computer, 5 sets of controllers, I did read, and I read the source article that this was derived from. So not like a lan at all, more like a console if anything.
One computer...not wired in separate computers, one.
SO yeah, that must hurt...a lot. It's called research, you should learn how to do it.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
It's your choise just like I refuse to play carebear MMos.
Well, the money is in casual games as thee are more people playing them than PvP centric games. People don't want to play a game, build up their character and items, only to be killed by some asshat who has nothing better to do. If it was part of the game mechanics, maybe, just PvP no way. So I guess you won't be playing anything but EVE, or ASSHAT CENTRAL as it is known.