Hi was wanting to know what graphics card options there are. I have the following right now: OS:Windows 10 CPU:i7-2600 3.40 GHz Memory:8.00 GB Graphics card: Radeon HD 5670
What power supply do you have, and what case? Don't just give the nominal wattage on the power supply, but give the exact brand name and model. If you don't know, then open up the case and read the label. For the case, the concerns are airflow and physical size in which you can fit a card.
The GPU you have is over 7 years old, so even the lowest end GPUs from the newest lineups would be a huge upgrade for you. Your CPU and memory look like they should be able to handle a much more powerful GPU without immediately bottlenecking it, too. So you look like a good candidate for a GPU upgrade, assuming your power and cooling can handle it.
Depending on what you're willing to spend, any of these could be a worthy upgrade for you:
Higher performance comes with a higher price tag, and also higher power consumption and heat output. The first card listed is perhaps four times as fast as what you have now, while using about the same power, so it will surely be fine in your current case unless you've got something goofy like an all-in-one or one of those extra thin cases. The rest will draw more power and put out more heat, which may or may not be fine depending on your case and power supply, which is why I asked.
What power supply do you have, and what case? Don't just give the nominal wattage on the power supply, but give the exact brand name and model. If you don't know, then open up the case and read the label. For the case, the concerns are airflow and physical size in which you can fit a card.
The GPU you have is over 7 years old, so even the lowest end GPUs from the newest lineups would be a huge upgrade for you. Your CPU and memory look like they should be able to handle a much more powerful GPU without immediately bottlenecking it, too. So you look like a good candidate for a GPU upgrade, assuming your power and cooling can handle it.
Depending on what you're willing to spend, any of these could be a worthy upgrade for you:
Higher performance comes with a higher price tag, and also higher power consumption and heat output. The first card listed is perhaps four times as fast as what you have now, while using about the same power, so it will surely be fine in your current case unless you've got something goofy like an all-in-one or one of those extra thin cases. The rest will draw more power and put out more heat, which may or may not be fine depending on your case and power supply, which is why I asked.
Will his CPU bottleneck the 1070 at all? My wife's computer has the same CPU and I was thinking of getting the 1070 for her for her gaming and photoshop work
What video card does she have now?
There's always something that is the bottleneck, whether it's the CPU, GPU, memory, storage, or whatever. Otherwise, you'd have infinite performance. But a Core i7-2600 was quite a capable CPU and is still decent even today, six years after launch.
What power supply do you have, and what case? Don't just give the nominal wattage on the power supply, but give the exact brand name and model. If you don't know, then open up the case and read the label. For the case, the concerns are airflow and physical size in which you can fit a card.
The GPU you have is over 7 years old, so even the lowest end GPUs from the newest lineups would be a huge upgrade for you. Your CPU and memory look like they should be able to handle a much more powerful GPU without immediately bottlenecking it, too. So you look like a good candidate for a GPU upgrade, assuming your power and cooling can handle it.
Depending on what you're willing to spend, any of these could be a worthy upgrade for you:
Higher performance comes with a higher price tag, and also higher power consumption and heat output. The first card listed is perhaps four times as fast as what you have now, while using about the same power, so it will surely be fine in your current case unless you've got something goofy like an all-in-one or one of those extra thin cases. The rest will draw more power and put out more heat, which may or may not be fine depending on your case and power supply, which is why I asked.
Will his CPU bottleneck the 1070 at all? My wife's computer has the same CPU and I was thinking of getting the 1070 for her for her gaming and photoshop work
What video card does she have now?
There's always something that is the bottleneck, whether it's the CPU, GPU, memory, storage, or whatever. Otherwise, you'd have infinite performance. But a Core i7-2600 was quite a capable CPU and is still decent even today, six years after launch.
She has an R9 380 4 gig right now
That is, itself, a decently capable card. An upgrade to a GTX 1070 would about double the current performance. Are you having performance problems with the current rig, and certain that the GPU is the issue? Your current GPU is perhaps 8 times as fast as that of the original poster, which makes it less obvious that there's a lot to be gained from an upgrade.
For the OP, a RX 580 would be a nice upgrade too if he can't afford the more expensive 1070.
That's definitely an upgrade, but I generally recommend at least doubling your performance if you're going to upgrade a GPU, and an RX 580 doesn't get you there.
For the OP, a RX 580 would be a nice upgrade too if he can't afford the more expensive 1070.
That's definitely an upgrade, but I generally recommend at least doubling your performance if you're going to upgrade a GPU, and an RX 580 doesn't get you there.
Jean-Luc_Picard was talking about the OP's upgrade, not about Blueturtle's upgrade.
Good job collecting the data. You might be surprised how many people start a thread like this and then reply with something to the effect of, "thanks for the help, I bought something random that no one recommended."
On the case and power supply, that's more or less what I was afraid of. As best as I can tell, you've only got one case fan. Here's the best picture of your power supply that I could find:
I knew that Dell likes to use dubious parts, but they've found a creative new way to do something stupid that I had never seen before: a power supply with a +12 V rail rated at 8 A. I'm not sure what they plug into it, but I hope it doesn't include the CPU, motherboard, or PCI Express connectors, as any of those would run perilously close to pushing it out of spec.
And, of course, it has the classic problem of a "460 W" power supply that claims to only be able to handle 385 W on the +12 V rails. I'd bet on it dying if you tried to pull 460 W from it--and if you tried that, you'd be lucky if it didn't kill any other hardware in the process. The problem with such fake specs is that you really don't know how much it can handle.
For case airflow, only one case fan isn't a good idea for a high-powered gaming rig. They figured that you wouldn't build a high-powered gaming rig with it. An external exhaust GPU would mostly fix that problem, but that greatly limits your selection.
I'd eyeball that case as giving you about 9" of GPU clearance, assuming it's a Micro ATX motherboard. The cloudfront picture you linked was very helpful. You may or may not be able to add another inch or so by removing trays, but beyond that, you'd have to cut through metal. Higher end, longer video cards won't physically fit in your case.
The first video card I linked above will definitely be fine:
Heat and power are comparable to what you have now, and it's only about 7.5" long. It's about 4 times as fast as what you have now, so it's clearly a big upgrade. If you were hoping to keep the price tag under $100, I'd buy it and call it a day. I wouldn't recommend "upgrading" to anything slower than that.
If you were hoping to get something faster than that, the next model up would probably also be fine:
There, you're looking at more heat and higher power consumption, so that your current rig can handle it just fine doesn't necessarily mean that it would still work fine if adding that video card. It's about twice as fast as the Radeon RX 460, and also about twice as expensive.
I wouldn't try going higher end than that on your case and power supply. It's possible to replace the power supply, but then you need to ask how much money do you really want to sink into upgrading a computer that is already 6 years old. Gaming-oriented cases nearly always come with more case fans, and often come with vents and fan mounts where you can add extra case fans for more airflow if you need it, but Dell doesn't do that.
Ah, I missed where you said a $350 budget. There's a difference between "could spend if I had to but would rather spend less" and "I'm going to spend this much and want to spend it as wisely as I can". So it depends on how you feel about actually spending $350 as opposed to substantially less.
If you don't already have a good SSD, I'd get one. And if you bought the computer from Dell, you probably don't. SSDs are massively faster than hard drives, and you're probably waiting on your hard drive a lot more often than you realize. For example:
Ideally, you do a clean install of Windows on the SSD, and then install your main programs there. With an OEM system from Dell that likely came with Windows 7 and later used the free upgrade to 10, I'm not sure how practical that would be in your case. Depending on how full your hard drive is, you might be able to just clone it to an SSD.
You normally want to put the OS and your main programs on the SSD, and if you have lots of bulk data, that can go on a separate hard drive--such as the one you already have. Check how much space you're using on your current hard drive, as if it's under 200 GB, you can just get an SSD and clone your hard drive. If you're using 2 TB, what to do about an SSD is more complicated.
When checking on hard drive usage, be aware that Windows tends to be massively wasteful by making backups of backups of backups for you--and all on the same drive so that you lose them all if the drive fails, anyway. You can open Windows Explorer, right click on the C: drive (assuming you didn't do anything fancy in partitioning it), click Properties, and see how much space Windows thinks you're using.
You can also select all of the folders on your C: drive at once, then right click on them, click Properties, wait a while, and eventually get how much all of your real files take. That will exclude what Windows is using for backups.
you could probably squeeze another 2 years plus out of that system with an rx480 if u can still find one, they are going cheap from some places right now due to rx580 launch
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Thanks for the info. I think I will just hold off and get a custom rig
That's completely reasonable, but if that's the route you want to go, I'd like to recommend either building your own or buying from a site that lets you choose the exact parts. That way, you won't end up with the limited upgrade capability of your current rig. If you don't know what parts to get, you can ask for help.
Some sites let you have a few cosmetic choices but not actually very many things that matter. If a site lets you pick the exact brand name and model of your power supply (not just the nominal wattage!), they're probably letting you pick everything that matters.
But don't just buy something random and then say, "I just bought this; is it any good?" You seem smart enough to avoid that, but many people aren't.
Thanks for the info. I think I will just hold off and get a custom rig
That's completely reasonable, but if that's the route you want to go, I'd like to recommend either building your own or buying from a site that lets you choose the exact parts. That way, you won't end up with the limited upgrade capability of your current rig. If you don't know what parts to get, you can ask for help.
Some sites let you have a few cosmetic choices but not actually very many things that matter. If a site lets you pick the exact brand name and model of your power supply (not just the nominal wattage!), they're probably letting you pick everything that matters.
But don't just buy something random and then say, "I just bought this; is it any good?" You seem smart enough to avoid that, but many people aren't.
Can you help me with choosing parts for a gaming rig please? I have a $800-$1200 range. Also do you know of a pick your parts site by chance? Thank you
Another thing if you have a brand name PC like HP, Dell, etc etc..... Make sure the card is compatible with the motherboard. I went through a nightmare to upgrade my card. I have an Hp h8-1020 w/ an i7 and all specs should have handled an R9 270x with no problem. However once the card was in I had a plain black screen. The PC would not even post. After doing some research online other people were having the same problem trying to upgrade both to AMD and NV cards (the system had a AMD card already). I had also previously already upgraded the power supply.
Anyways to make a long story short I bought a new motherboard. My CPU heatsink would not fit on the new motherboard Had to buy a new heatsink.... Installed the heatsink / card feeling all good cant hook up the SATA cables because the new card takes up more space and the cable run behind it Bought 90 degree SATA cables that I could fit behind card Get ready to hook everything else up and oh no! HP uses a custom MB header so I can not hook up things to the power switch, power certain USB ports, card reader, etc etc..... For a couple days I was starting the PC with a screwdriver by shorting out 2 pins on the MB. I went to a local PC shop and they gave me a header with a power switch.
I had to spend almost the same amount in parts as the GPU itself cost. Before you just buy a card and think you can slap it in do some research.
Thanks for the info. I think I will just hold off and get a custom rig
That's completely reasonable, but if that's the route you want to go, I'd like to recommend either building your own or buying from a site that lets you choose the exact parts. That way, you won't end up with the limited upgrade capability of your current rig. If you don't know what parts to get, you can ask for help.
Some sites let you have a few cosmetic choices but not actually very many things that matter. If a site lets you pick the exact brand name and model of your power supply (not just the nominal wattage!), they're probably letting you pick everything that matters.
But don't just buy something random and then say, "I just bought this; is it any good?" You seem smart enough to avoid that, but many people aren't.
Can you help me with choosing parts for a gaming rig please? I have a $800-$1200 range. Also do you know of a pick your parts site by chance? Thank you
Are you willing and able to assemble parts yourself if you have suitable parts in your possession, or do you need someone else to do it for you? You can assume that the latter will eat up about 20% of your budget.
The only tool that you need to assemble a computer from parts is a screwdriver, and perhaps scissors to open boxes. So you don't have to do more complicated things. Knowing how to assemble, upgrade, and repair a computer is also a handy skill to have. But if you're too scared, have physical impairments, or have more money and less time than you're letting on, buying off a site that will assemble it for you is also an option.
giffy689 said: Can you help me with choosing parts for a gaming rig please? I have a $800-$1200 range. Also do you know of a pick your parts site by chance?
That build does not include operating system. If you need to buy new OS, add $100 to the price.
That build only includes 480GB SSD. If you need more storage than that, there are 2TB hard disks available at around $75.
The GPU on that build is picked because it was on sale and $40 cheaper than any other GTX 1070. Once the sale is over (5 days from now on NewEgg) I wouldn't pick that one. Also that GPU is quite noisy while under heavy load, if you care about how much noise your computer generates while gaming then that's not a good option.
EDIT: Changed the build a little because I had forgotten to check memory compatibility /EDIT
giffy689 said: Can you help me with choosing parts for a gaming rig please? I have a $800-$1200 range. Also do you know of a pick your parts site by chance?
That build does not include operating system. If you need to buy new OS, add $100 to the price.
That build only includes 480GB SSD. If you need more storage than that, there are 2TB hard disks available at around $75.
The GPU on that build is picked because it was on sale and $40 cheaper than any other GTX 1070. Once the sale is over (5 days from now on NewEgg) I wouldn't pick that one. Also that GPU is quite noisy while under heavy load, if you care about how much noise your computer generates while gaming then that's not a good option.
EDIT: Changed the build a little because I had forgotten to check memory compatibility What would be a quieter card and does the site offer assembly?
What would be a quieter card than the GTX 1070? Also does pcpartpicker offer assembly service?
I just meant that it's not a particularly quiet GTX 1070 model. If you want a quiet model of GTX 1070, something like EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC would be good, but it's also more expensive.
What would be a quieter card than the GTX 1070? Also does pcpartpicker offer assembly service?
That Zotac listed should be a reasonably quiet card. Most aftermarket cards are, but not all. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487326&cm_re=1070_FE-_-14-487-326-_-Product is an example of what is referred to as a blower style card. They tend to be noisier than open air cards and, usually, a bit hotter on temperatures. The tradeoff is that they can be used in restricted airflow situations, like adding to your Dell case, for example.
The quietest 1070 you could buy is a water cooled card, either through setting up a custom loop (system builders can do this if you choose, but it does require some maintenance on the user end) or buy purchasing something like the EVGA 1070 Hybrid (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487281&cm_re=1070_hybrid-_-14-487-281-_-Product). In the end though, I've found most aftermarket cards such as MSI's Gaming X cards to offer almost silent cooling without the added cost and hassle of watercooling. Absolute silence can only be found in passively cooled cards, but the 1070 doesn't come in a passively cooled configuration as far as I know. The 1050 Ti, I think, is the only current generation GPU that comes passively cooled, but it is far below a GTX 1070 in performance.
PCPartspicker does not offer assembly, but there are some online system builders out there. Origin PC is one. These guys used to be Alienware before Dell bought it. Another is Falcon Northwest and Cyberpower PC. My personal recommendation for assembly, though, is to find a shop locally and just buy from them. They usually guarantee their work, and you most likely won't get the markup for flashy lights and decals that you get from the online guys.
Find a local pc shop around you and talk to them about the cost of assembly if u bring them the parts. Most will do it for a reasonable price. That way u can pick all your own hardware and don't have to worry about putting it together if your not comfortable with doing it.
My son found a shop to do it by looking for shops around our area as it would be a hassle to carry it there on the tram or bus. We don't have a car as we live in the heart of Rome. He then read all the user comments and checked how the reviews were then he went to the shop. He bought all the parts and took it there and they gave him an OS and assembled it for him for a very reasonable price.
Thanks everyone for input. I think i will go local probably with an RX 460. Do i have to contact an admin to close this thread?
So you decided after all to go with an upgrade rather than replacement? You can get such a big upgrade for cheap that if you've been playing games on your current card, I think you'll be happy with the upgrade.
No need to close a thread. If you're done here, people stop replying, and the thread dies.
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The GPU you have is over 7 years old, so even the lowest end GPUs from the newest lineups would be a huge upgrade for you. Your CPU and memory look like they should be able to handle a much more powerful GPU without immediately bottlenecking it, too. So you look like a good candidate for a GPU upgrade, assuming your power and cooling can handle it.
Depending on what you're willing to spend, any of these could be a worthy upgrade for you:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125898
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487263
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125964
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500408
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125869
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137111
Higher performance comes with a higher price tag, and also higher power consumption and heat output. The first card listed is perhaps four times as fast as what you have now, while using about the same power, so it will surely be fine in your current case unless you've got something goofy like an all-in-one or one of those extra thin cases. The rest will draw more power and put out more heat, which may or may not be fine depending on your case and power supply, which is why I asked.
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What video card does she have now?
There's always something that is the bottleneck, whether it's the CPU, GPU, memory, storage, or whatever. Otherwise, you'd have infinite performance. But a Core i7-2600 was quite a capable CPU and is still decent even today, six years after launch.
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That is, itself, a decently capable card. An upgrade to a GTX 1070 would about double the current performance. Are you having performance problems with the current rig, and certain that the GPU is the issue? Your current GPU is perhaps 8 times as fast as that of the original poster, which makes it less obvious that there's a lot to be gained from an upgrade.
That's definitely an upgrade, but I generally recommend at least doubling your performance if you're going to upgrade a GPU, and an RX 580 doesn't get you there.
Jean-Luc_Picard was talking about the OP's upgrade, not about Blueturtle's upgrade.
Power supply is Dell Model:AC460AD-00
Here are a couple of pics of the case:
http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-7x8bo4i/products/594/images/4158/DELL-STUDIO-XPS-8300-DLPCXPS0432-1440-0600237__41445.1480352458.1280.1280.jpg?c=2
http://www.ascendtech.us/mmImages/b_0/DELLXPS8300BL-04.jpg
http://s908.photobucket.com/user/idlewave/media/DSCF4333.jpg.html
On the case and power supply, that's more or less what I was afraid of. As best as I can tell, you've only got one case fan. Here's the best picture of your power supply that I could find:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Power-Supply-Unit-For-Dell-XPS-8300-8500-Mini-Tower-460W-AC460AD-00-WY7XX-/262071832141?hash=item3d04b2ce4d:g:pDcAAOSwsB9WCkxa
I knew that Dell likes to use dubious parts, but they've found a creative new way to do something stupid that I had never seen before: a power supply with a +12 V rail rated at 8 A. I'm not sure what they plug into it, but I hope it doesn't include the CPU, motherboard, or PCI Express connectors, as any of those would run perilously close to pushing it out of spec.
And, of course, it has the classic problem of a "460 W" power supply that claims to only be able to handle 385 W on the +12 V rails. I'd bet on it dying if you tried to pull 460 W from it--and if you tried that, you'd be lucky if it didn't kill any other hardware in the process. The problem with such fake specs is that you really don't know how much it can handle.
For case airflow, only one case fan isn't a good idea for a high-powered gaming rig. They figured that you wouldn't build a high-powered gaming rig with it. An external exhaust GPU would mostly fix that problem, but that greatly limits your selection.
I'd eyeball that case as giving you about 9" of GPU clearance, assuming it's a Micro ATX motherboard. The cloudfront picture you linked was very helpful. You may or may not be able to add another inch or so by removing trays, but beyond that, you'd have to cut through metal. Higher end, longer video cards won't physically fit in your case.
The first video card I linked above will definitely be fine:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125898
Heat and power are comparable to what you have now, and it's only about 7.5" long. It's about 4 times as fast as what you have now, so it's clearly a big upgrade. If you were hoping to keep the price tag under $100, I'd buy it and call it a day. I wouldn't recommend "upgrading" to anything slower than that.
If you were hoping to get something faster than that, the next model up would probably also be fine:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487263
There, you're looking at more heat and higher power consumption, so that your current rig can handle it just fine doesn't necessarily mean that it would still work fine if adding that video card. It's about twice as fast as the Radeon RX 460, and also about twice as expensive.
I wouldn't try going higher end than that on your case and power supply. It's possible to replace the power supply, but then you need to ask how much money do you really want to sink into upgrading a computer that is already 6 years old. Gaming-oriented cases nearly always come with more case fans, and often come with vents and fan mounts where you can add extra case fans for more airflow if you need it, but Dell doesn't do that.
If you don't already have a good SSD, I'd get one. And if you bought the computer from Dell, you probably don't. SSDs are massively faster than hard drives, and you're probably waiting on your hard drive a lot more often than you realize. For example:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226854
Or if you need more capacity:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250079
Ideally, you do a clean install of Windows on the SSD, and then install your main programs there. With an OEM system from Dell that likely came with Windows 7 and later used the free upgrade to 10, I'm not sure how practical that would be in your case. Depending on how full your hard drive is, you might be able to just clone it to an SSD.
You normally want to put the OS and your main programs on the SSD, and if you have lots of bulk data, that can go on a separate hard drive--such as the one you already have. Check how much space you're using on your current hard drive, as if it's under 200 GB, you can just get an SSD and clone your hard drive. If you're using 2 TB, what to do about an SSD is more complicated.
When checking on hard drive usage, be aware that Windows tends to be massively wasteful by making backups of backups of backups for you--and all on the same drive so that you lose them all if the drive fails, anyway. You can open Windows Explorer, right click on the C: drive (assuming you didn't do anything fancy in partitioning it), click Properties, and see how much space Windows thinks you're using.
You can also select all of the folders on your C: drive at once, then right click on them, click Properties, wait a while, and eventually get how much all of your real files take. That will exclude what Windows is using for backups.
Some sites let you have a few cosmetic choices but not actually very many things that matter. If a site lets you pick the exact brand name and model of your power supply (not just the nominal wattage!), they're probably letting you pick everything that matters.
But don't just buy something random and then say, "I just bought this; is it any good?" You seem smart enough to avoid that, but many people aren't.
Thank you
Anyways to make a long story short I bought a new motherboard.
My CPU heatsink would not fit on the new motherboard
Had to buy a new heatsink....
Installed the heatsink / card feeling all good cant hook up the SATA cables because the new card takes up more space and the cable run behind it
Bought 90 degree SATA cables that I could fit behind card
Get ready to hook everything else up and oh no! HP uses a custom MB header so I can not hook up things to the power switch, power certain USB ports, card reader, etc etc.....
For a couple days I was starting the PC with a screwdriver by shorting out 2 pins on the MB.
I went to a local PC shop and they gave me a header with a power switch.
I had to spend almost the same amount in parts as the GPU itself cost.
Before you just buy a card and think you can slap it in do some research.
The only tool that you need to assemble a computer from parts is a screwdriver, and perhaps scissors to open boxes. So you don't have to do more complicated things. Knowing how to assemble, upgrade, and repair a computer is also a handy skill to have. But if you're too scared, have physical impairments, or have more money and less time than you're letting on, buying off a site that will assemble it for you is also an option.
Here's one build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JtvT7h
CPU Cooler for the build: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856006
That build does not include operating system. If you need to buy new OS, add $100 to the price.
That build only includes 480GB SSD. If you need more storage than that, there are 2TB hard disks available at around $75.
The GPU on that build is picked because it was on sale and $40 cheaper than any other GTX 1070. Once the sale is over (5 days from now on NewEgg) I wouldn't pick that one. Also that GPU is quite noisy while under heavy load, if you care about how much noise your computer generates while gaming then that's not a good option.
EDIT: Changed the build a little because I had forgotten to check memory compatibility /EDIT
https://uk.hardware.info/reviews/6979/11/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-mini-itx-review-cute-1070-noise-levels-and-temperatures
PCPartPicker doesn't offer any assembly service.
The quietest 1070 you could buy is a water cooled card, either through setting up a custom loop (system builders can do this if you choose, but it does require some maintenance on the user end) or buy purchasing something like the EVGA 1070 Hybrid (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487281&cm_re=1070_hybrid-_-14-487-281-_-Product). In the end though, I've found most aftermarket cards such as MSI's Gaming X cards to offer almost silent cooling without the added cost and hassle of watercooling. Absolute silence can only be found in passively cooled cards, but the 1070 doesn't come in a passively cooled configuration as far as I know. The 1050 Ti, I think, is the only current generation GPU that comes passively cooled, but it is far below a GTX 1070 in performance.
PCPartspicker does not offer assembly, but there are some online system builders out there. Origin PC is one. These guys used to be Alienware before Dell bought it. Another is Falcon Northwest and Cyberpower PC. My personal recommendation for assembly, though, is to find a shop locally and just buy from them. They usually guarantee their work, and you most likely won't get the markup for flashy lights and decals that you get from the online guys.
Most will do it for a reasonable price. That way u can pick all your own hardware and don't have to worry about putting it together if your not comfortable with doing it.
No need to close a thread. If you're done here, people stop replying, and the thread dies.