Originally posted by Johnark Well with all the free content they add every month, and the upcoming expansion, yes, at the moment, WoW to me is the best game in the world and is the only game I find enjoyable to play! If they keep this up, it will still remain the best game in the world to me! If the expansion blows, or they stop adding free content every month, the game will suck! I mean like any previous MMORPG I've played, the devs were amazing, the game kept having more and more stuff, then they become lazy, the expansions they released were pure crap, the game felt like I had done everything humanly possible, so I left. Blizzard is still holding up! What scares me is the day they decide to not hold up anymore. So only time will tell. Cause yes, atm, if you don't have at least 2 level 60 alts and least 3 epic purple items in your inventory, then there's a problem. Level 1 to 59 is fun, has lotsa content. But level 60 has just as much content too.
Gotta say, it's a bit refreshing to hear someone with such a positive outlook on WoW and Blizzard. Glad to hear you're still having a blast with it.
Answer me this though: Has Blizzard managed to successfully address the server problems? Earlier this year, when I was still playing, the servers, particularly a certain few, were crashing frequently. Sometimes more than once a day. When the servers were up, the lag was horrid. This was both just before and after they put online several new servers to handle the huge amounts of players logged on daily.
"First you wanna kill me, now you wanna kiss me...Blow."--Ash, "Army of Darkness"
Originally posted by Slaggg Answer me this though: Has Blizzard managed to successfully address the server problems? Earlier this year, when I was still playing, the servers, particularly a certain few, were crashing frequently. Sometimes more than once a day. When the servers were up, the lag was horrid. This was both just before and after they put online several new servers to handle the huge amounts of players logged on daily.
I agree with Johnark, although according to him I have problems.
On the servers I play, mostly Azgalor (High Pop PvP), lag is minimal to non-existant in the open lands. Areas, such as IF's Auction House, can still produce a bit of lag, but it's not nearly as bad as it was a few months ago. Also, I haven't experienced a server crash in long time.
I've played since beta and still realy enjoy the game. Typically I play between 10 - 20 hours per week and each session I leave feeling that I've gotten my money's worth.
Ico Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Originally posted by CeeFoR WoW, best game in the world? Far from it. You have to be a real hypocrite to bash the people who use "after level 60 the game sucks" as their reason for this game being a complete disaster. When you say EVE sucks, when you've only played the 14 day trial. Get at least 10 million skill points in EVE then judge it. EVE destroys WoW. Take it from somebody who succeeds in both games. Every game has its pros and cons. For instance a gamer who's played every game is either going to say that DAoC or Shadowbane PvP are the best. Or that EVE or Shadowbane have the best economy system in any other game. While WoW destroys DAoC PvE. Blizzard is a great company. (Starcraft being my favorite game of all time) Warcraft 2, 3, WoW are some of the biggest disappointments of all time in the gaming world
Let us also remember that ALL games get boring, all of them (Except Starcraft LOL)
I don't think it's fair to expect a player to invest so much time before developing an opinion. Granted I'd rather they do so after giving the game a bit of a chance, instead of categorically stating that the game sux/rulez inside of their first 30 mins of play time. But 1mil xp? Wait till they get closer to, or at lvl 60?
I think what it may all boil down to is people using such extreme terms to define something that isn't so extreme. People over using the word "hate" when they are merely annoyed. Semantics.
"First you wanna kill me, now you wanna kiss me...Blow."--Ash, "Army of Darkness"
"Blizzard is a great company. (Starcraft being my favorite game of all time) Warcraft 2, 3, WoW are some of the biggest disappointments of all time in the gaming world"
So you are saying Blizzard is a great company because they made 1 good game, while all their other games sucked big time?
Gotta agree on Starcraft though, it's phenomenal. But for the rest of what they made, I sure hope they get bankrupted soon before they unleash yet another turd onto this world.
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Its a fun game no doubt about it. You get a sense of accomplishment without spending 10 years to gain a level. Theres a lot of memories with warcraft that make this game fun to play. If you play Warcraft 2 and 3 then play this, it really makes it more involving!
Originally posted by Thunder- Alright im going to have to defend this kid a bit... Well i have to agree with you. Sure it can get boring and have its downs. But this is the only game that i have played for this long and still playing it. I enjoy it a lot. One thing that makes it a lot funner is playing during the nights then talking about it with your friends the next day or playing together. So sure people may hate this game for their own reasons, and think its boring. But all those lvl 60 ppl, you must have had fun playing otherwise why would you keep playing till 60?
Because those are the people that have so much damn time to do the same dungeons over and over again and get all the uber epic gear spending their whole life on it... The gameplay is only appealing to kids anyways. The game crafting, PVP, ...atually everything is just too simple....and not to mention this game is not designed for casual players, it is for people who have lots of damn time to waste.
I agree with this sort of but i think it was a stupid comment. i bet you couldnt even think of 10 more classes to add to wow. although i think it would be best fror the game to add some more classes AND races they should add around 3-4 classes to make the game more exciting in my opinion
i see all these wow haters (like myself) yet there are still 6 mill ppl that play it.
when will WoW dye?!?!?!?
im sure that the 6 mill ppl that play it are not all immature kiddies, although while playing, it has a pretty sh-itty community, so maybe all the more mature ppl could quit and go to a real mmo. plz dont flame me, i just really am getting sick of wow and all its fanbois.
so to the op: sorry bud, it is not the best mmo ever, in fact i dislike it so much that i think there should be a website for all the wow haters to try and get ppl to quit.
Originally posted by killsometime I dont understand pps that say: Wow gets booring in lvl 60... when they never have been it.... Like that stoopid (Bent and Trond) <------ pps where i live:P nvm WoW is the best game ever made and it will always be=) WOW 4TW
See this is why people leave WoW. Because of the little kids that play like yourself. Your the kind thats going ninja items and then use CAPS LOCK when everyone is like WTF.
Yes WoW dies at 60. Ive had a 60 paladin with 6/8 lawbringer and the earthshaker 2handed. Ive been to almost ever instance (including BWL). The game was fun at the start but dies instantly.
And blizzard has banned over, hmm 30k accounts since release? Good job dumbasses.
Originally posted by yourmom12192 i see all these wow haters (like myself) yet there are still 6 mill ppl that play it. when will WoW dye?!?!?!? im sure that the 6 mill ppl that play it are not all immature kiddies, although while playing, it has a pretty sh-itty community, so maybe all the more mature ppl could quit and go to a real mmo. plz dont flame me, i just really am getting sick of wow and all its fanbois. so to the op: sorry bud, it is not the best mmo ever, in fact i dislike it so much that i think there should be a website for all the wow haters to try and get ppl to quit. ROFL 6 million.
Look, when you say 6 million have played it, that means 6 million people have TRIED WoW. Not play it. Thats including china.
I've allways loved the individual freedoms and open gameplay eve-online offers but stuck with world of warcraft for more than a year because the combat system was more entertaining. That isn't a fact anymore because the increasing influence items have on the combat system in world of warcraft has removed the point of PvPing if you don't also dedicate several hours every week to raiding PvE.
Now I play eve-online while I wait for warhammer online.
Look, when you say 6 million have played it, that means 6 million people have TRIED WoW. Not play it. Thats including china.
Something I never understood is how people could think that it is 6mil different players and accounts. Lets do some math. Blizzard has 143 realms in the world, but lets round upto 150 since it is easier.
6,000,000 / 150 = 40,000 per realm or so, and well all know the most populated server doesn't have that and that there are still some low pop. 40,000 accounts per realm seams pretty rediculous huh?
40,000 / 6 = 6,667 (rounded up). So if there were 40,000 characters per server at 6 characters per account we are talking a little under 7,000 people per server. Now that is fairly reasonable. EvE has what is most likely the best server setup in the MMO industry right now. Of course they only have 1 server with upto 12,000 players at once and have less to maintain and fewer zones and such than WoW. Which indicates there is at max 7000 accoutns per server. I regularily only saw 2k-2,500 players on each faction on high pop servers so 7000 again seems reasonable if not slightly inflated.
150 * 7000 = 1,050,000 total accounts or so. Which is inline with the possible to me, but again that is still inflated. I rounded up the numb er of servers, and I rounded up the number of accounts per server.
I can believe 1.1milllion active players. But 6 mil is not a valid number obviously. That may be the total number of characters created, including inactive account, but not active players. There just aren't enough servers for WoW to support that many...unless they have 40,000 players per realm...and anyone who has ever logged into WoW knows that isn't true.
I've been playing since it launched, and my only problem's with it are how they keep packing people onto servers that are already overpopulated and laggy to the point of unplayable during peak hours, and how skill has no place in it, what i mean by that is getting epic gear is not relative to how good you are, just if you sink enough time into things and kiss guild leader ass.
WoW is a good game, I thought it was kind-off like one of a kind untill I played EverQuest 2. Then I learned WoW is an easier form of the EQ serie.
I would play WoW if it was more advance, not even the crafting is benificial and everyone makes the same stuff and it never fails to be created. And I hate 40 men raids more than I hate the round shapes it's graphics has. The lesser the people the more meaning is put into each individual = funnier and makes you have more roles than just stand there among the 10 other of your class spamming the same spells over and over...
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
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Gotta say, it's a bit refreshing to hear someone with such a positive outlook on WoW and Blizzard. Glad to hear you're still having a blast with it.
Answer me this though: Has Blizzard managed to successfully address the server problems? Earlier this year, when I was still playing, the servers, particularly a certain few, were crashing frequently. Sometimes more than once a day. When the servers were up, the lag was horrid. This was both just before and after they put online several new servers to handle the huge amounts of players logged on daily.
"First you wanna kill me, now you wanna kiss me...Blow."--Ash, "Army of Darkness"
I agree with Johnark, although according to him I have problems.
On the servers I play, mostly Azgalor (High Pop PvP), lag is minimal to non-existant in the open lands. Areas, such as IF's Auction House, can still produce a bit of lag, but it's not nearly as bad as it was a few months ago. Also, I haven't experienced a server crash in long time.
I've played since beta and still realy enjoy the game. Typically I play between 10 - 20 hours per week and each session I leave feeling that I've gotten my money's worth.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
I don't think it's fair to expect a player to invest so much time before developing an opinion. Granted I'd rather they do so after giving the game a bit of a chance, instead of categorically stating that the game sux/rulez inside of their first 30 mins of play time. But 1mil xp? Wait till they get closer to, or at lvl 60?
I think what it may all boil down to is people using such extreme terms to define something that isn't so extreme. People over using the word "hate" when they are merely annoyed. Semantics.
"First you wanna kill me, now you wanna kiss me...Blow."--Ash, "Army of Darkness"
wow will be awesome until u get all classes and all races to level 60
shut up u mmorpg hater
edit: wth is wrong with my posting settings? just forget it
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
Not sure where you're coming from here. Are you trying to say that, "WoW IS awesome UNTIL you get to lvl 60."?
"First you wanna kill me, now you wanna kiss me...Blow."--Ash, "Army of Darkness"
"Blizzard is a great company. (Starcraft being my favorite game of all time) Warcraft 2, 3, WoW are some of the biggest disappointments of all time in the gaming world"
So you are saying Blizzard is a great company because they made 1 good game, while all their other games sucked big time?
Gotta agree on Starcraft though, it's phenomenal. But for the rest of what they made, I sure hope they get bankrupted soon before they unleash yet another turd onto this world.
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Basil Fawlty: [to telephone operator] I've been trying to get through to the speaking clock... Well, it's engaged... Well, it's been engaged for ten minutes. How is this possible? My wife isn't talking to it.
Not sure where you're coming from here. Are you trying to say that, "WoW IS awesome UNTIL you get to lvl 60."?
NO...hes saying after u get ALL races and classes to 60...then it gets boring.
Play today.
Die tomorrow.
DT
i see all these wow haters (like myself) yet there are still 6 mill ppl that play it.
when will WoW dye?!?!?!?
im sure that the 6 mill ppl that play it are not all immature kiddies, although while playing, it has a pretty sh-itty community, so maybe all the more mature ppl could quit and go to a real mmo. plz dont flame me, i just really am getting sick of wow and all its fanbois.
so to the op: sorry bud, it is not the best mmo ever, in fact i dislike it so much that i think there should be a website for all the wow haters to try and get ppl to quit.
necro
Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
Yes WoW dies at 60. Ive had a 60 paladin with 6/8 lawbringer and the earthshaker 2handed. Ive been to almost ever instance (including BWL). The game was fun at the start but dies instantly.
And blizzard has banned over, hmm 30k accounts since release? Good job dumbasses.
Now I play eve-online while I wait for warhammer online.
Something I never understood is how people could think that it is 6mil different players and accounts. Lets do some math. Blizzard has 143 realms in the world, but lets round upto 150 since it is easier.
6,000,000 / 150 = 40,000 per realm or so, and well all know the most populated server doesn't have that and that there are still some low pop. 40,000 accounts per realm seams pretty rediculous huh?
40,000 / 6 = 6,667 (rounded up). So if there were 40,000 characters per server at 6 characters per account we are talking a little under 7,000 people per server. Now that is fairly reasonable. EvE has what is most likely the best server setup in the MMO industry right now. Of course they only have 1 server with upto 12,000 players at once and have less to maintain and fewer zones and such than WoW. Which indicates there is at max 7000 accoutns per server. I regularily only saw 2k-2,500 players on each faction on high pop servers so 7000 again seems reasonable if not slightly inflated.
150 * 7000 = 1,050,000 total accounts or so. Which is inline with the possible to me, but again that is still inflated. I rounded up the numb er of servers, and I rounded up the number of accounts per server.
I can believe 1.1milllion active players. But 6 mil is not a valid number obviously. That may be the total number of characters created, including inactive account, but not active players. There just aren't enough servers for WoW to support that many...unless they have 40,000 players per realm...and anyone who has ever logged into WoW knows that isn't true.
WoW is a good game, I thought it was kind-off like one of a kind untill I played EverQuest 2. Then I learned WoW is an easier form of the EQ serie.
I would play WoW if it was more advance, not even the crafting is benificial and everyone makes the same stuff and it never fails to be created. And I hate 40 men raids more than I hate the round shapes it's graphics has. The lesser the people the more meaning is put into each individual = funnier and makes you have more roles than just stand there among the 10 other of your class spamming the same spells over and over...
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Even if it was the best game, it would continue to be crap. Like the rest of games there out.
Honorific mentions to UO, but its time has passed already.