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Intel LGA 2066

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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,993
    gervaise1 said:
    Vrika said:
    gervaise1 said:

    Its the price performance ratio at a system level rather than the cpu level. Since the gpu - in most games today - is the bottleneck long before the cpu is the price performance ratio of:

    e.g. an i5-7600K (say) + a higher end gpu

    will probably be higher than

    e.g. a Ryzen / i7 / i9 + a lower end gpu however


    If you limit it cpus then absolutely what you say. 

    Sales figures suggest that "we" are upgrading our cpus less and less however so "we" are thinking system and overall performance not cpu only. Which leads to return on investment questions etc.
    It's much more expensive to buy a cheap CPU and upgrade it + motherboard in a couple of years, than it's to get a cheap GPU and switch it to another in a couple of years. Also switching the GPU takes less time and it's a lot easier to do.

    Also you can change graphic settings to get a game to work on a GPU that's a bit slow, but if your CPU is a bit slow there's not much you can do with settings you must upgrade.
     
    An i5-7600K is not a "low end" "cheap" cpu though - 4 cores that can be o/clocked to 4.2GHz etc.

    For someone on a budget they could save $200+ dollars over e.g. an i7 and use it on a better gpu. More system bang for the buck. 


    What we are starting to see has happened in many industries and many products. The "high end" is becoming "run of the mill". There are lots of examples - clothing, glasses (on the face or on the table), cars. In computing graphics workstations and soundcards are two obvious examples. Tablets, mobile phones and so on.

    Its somewhat sad imo that many people don't "see" the sophisticated design and manufacturing techniques that create so many products that most accept as mundane but which only used to be available - at high cost - to the few.

    I suggest this is what we are starting to see with cpus however. They are becoming "mundane".
    The price difference between I5 7600K and I7 7700K is only $110 (data from Newegg.com). I didn't mean people should start spending $200+ more than I5 to buy server processors. 
     
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Quizzical said:
    Renoaku said:
    Vrika said:
    they are developing nano strings currently that grow upwards instead of side ways

    This way they have unlimited space for transitors..

    Everyone how is buying any cpu currently will be dissapointed, when the upwards cpu transitors are being made
    I think the CPU bough today is likely to break due to getting old before something like that hits the market.
    its closer then you think it will be


    Yeah I heard about this wait until we hit 1nm CPU's I can online imagine the future of actual spaceships, and stuff (Real Life) with 1nm CPU's.
    At some point, quantum mechanics will dictate that you just can't shrink any further.  That doesn't necessarily mean the end of process node improvements, but it will slow things way, way down.  I'm not sure if there will ever be a 1 nm process node, though I half expect that someday someone will market a "1 nm class" process node by which they mean that some obscure measurement is about 1.9 nm.  (You get bonus points if you know off hand what that's a reference to.)

    Already, the process node improvements have been slowing down considerably.  And it's only going to get worse from here on out.
    I'm a believer of Inner Space as well as Outer Space ;) 

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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Vrika said:
    gervaise1 said:
    Vrika said:
    gervaise1 said:

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    The price difference between I5 7600K and I7 7700K is only $110 (data from Newegg.com). I didn't mean people should start spending $200+ more than I5 to buy server processors. 
    Cheaper still now! 

    97.53 now according to Tomshardware - which pulls the cheapest prices from newegg and Amazon. It was $200 when I wrote the above - I remember wondering whether there was a stock shortage.

    Reinforces the point however: if you can buy a "solid gaming" cpu at a "low" price point the next step should be making sure you have a "solid" gpu, storage, memory etc. 
    Ozmodan
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