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Founders to Receive Starter Pack Items After All - Albion Online - MMORPG.com
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Founders to Receive Starter Pack Items After All - Albion Online - MMORPG.com
Albion Online News - After a recent forum kerfuffle, the Albion Online team has announced that Founders would be receiving all of the items for the corresponding tier of Starter Packs which are currently on sale now that servers are down and the sale of Founders Packs have stopped. Initially, Founders would have received the items purchased prior to July 9th, but many were upset that the new Starter Packs included items and mounts. In addition, they will receive 10% more gold on top of the original amount.
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They had Founders Packs, people bought them, or they did not.
Those that did buy them, saw exactly what they were getting.
I do not recall seeing SI say anywhere that there would only ever be Founders Packs, and that there would be no other type of pack once Founders Packs were no longer available.
Why would anyone reasonably expect to get the items from a pack they bought, AND all the items from packs they did not buy?
What next, all the people that start to play once it launch's, that did not buy any pack, complaining that they do not have items that look like items from the packs, so they expect to be given them for nothing too?
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
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cmon man, thats not the point. The point is that they released a starter pack that includes stuff founders didnt get, for the same price that we paid for a year in advance to help fund the game.
Developers encourage players to buy early, saying they will be better off and will get a better value. Then they want to drive more sales, so new packs are introduced with better value and flashier items.
I think think it's a symptom of a bigger fundamental issue. Games in Early-Access are treated as products rather than community development. The promise is that early players help shape the future of a game, get to be part of the development and are a core of the product once it releases. Situations like these (outdated pledge bundles) are an example of the fact that most companies view an early-access backer exactly the same way as any other buyer post-launch.
It's nice to see the Albion team at least updated their original bundles retrospectively.
Does not matter to me either way since I never try to get into a game when it first releases and I take my time to enjoy a game instead of rushing to be the biggest and baddest in a make believe world. I am a founder though and I can see why it would bother some. I think they did the best they could after an unfortunate situation and I myself am happy with their apology and their peace offering.
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What I'm not cool with is the over-abundance of self-entitled whiny snowflakes playing MMOs these days.
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That is not what they did though.
They had founder packs, that contained certain items, people bought them.
They stopped selling those founder packs, as they said they would.
They then started selling starter packs, that contained different items, that they felt had less value than the founder packs of the same price, again, as they said they would.
Why do you expect to have those item from the starter pack that you did not pay for?
Since all they have done, is exactly what they said they were going to do, why do you feel the need to mention business ethics, as though they are in the wrong?
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
Pst! Its not a f2p title... It is b2p with MT.
In the crowd funding culture it is expected early supporters are given the best rewards for assuming the greatest risk for buying in so early. Later offers are also expected to offer less value and / or cost more if the same.
Violating this core tenant always causes an issue, recently a bit of a row over on ASHES when they continued to offer lifetime subs after the end of the KSer campaign over a misunderstanding that exclusive only referred to the price, not that lifetime subs were exclusive to the KSer.
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Since when did being a push-over/easy mark make you better than somebody else? What type of weirdo red hat calls THIS entitlement?
Regardless, stop buying founders packs and wait until the game is actually done is the moral of the story here.
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It's the Dev's responsibility to think about potential negative consequences of selling exclusives BEFORE selling them. If the main perk of an item turns out to not be exclusive because it later turns out they changed their mind, they shouldn't be surprised if people are pissed.
Legendary Founder contents:
Closed Beta Access
13200 Gold (they added 10% as a thank you to founders)
90 Days Premium
Founders Certificate
Gold Founder Name Tag
Explorers House
Legendary Avatar and Ring
Explorers Horse
Explorers Ox
Legendary Explorers Equipment
Explorers Looking Glass
Explorers Statue
Also items from epic pack.
Legendary Starter contents:
12000 Gold
90 Days Premium
Legendary Adventurers Equipment
Legendary Adventurers Avatar
Legendary Adventurers Cart
Legendary Adventurers Horse
Also items from epic pack
So, again, how do starter pack buyers get more? and since they stated from the start that founder packs would be removed and other packs offered, how is it a bait and switch?
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
It's hard to be sure but apparently some were upset with the cosmetics of the starter horses. I agree there doesn't seem to be much validity behind the complaints.
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Can any of the people complaining tell me how the Starter Pack is supposed to be better than the Founder?
It's either I am blind or just too stupid, but I can't figure it out.
I think the bigger issue is they are giving starter pack buyers the same head start window in order to prevent "irreparable" long term unbalance which would damage the game.
If having a head start can or does cause an imbalance which can't be corrected in the long term there isn't much of a future for this title.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Quoting from our last newsletter: ***This is your last chance to score a Founder Pack, along with its exclusive Founder goodies such as the Explorer’s mounts, Explorer’s house, silver and golden nametags, and much more! What are you waiting for?***
Hence - it was probably our own tunnel vision - we did get caught by surprise when many people pointed out to us that they thought that only founders would have a head-start, and in hindsight, it seems much more obvious to us than it did at the time. Had we taken that into account, we likely would have sold founder packs until release and only introduced starter packs post-release. The reason why we did not was that we were also concerned about the charge of "people buying into the hype should not be founders", hence, we stopped the founder's packs before the start of our pre-launch marketing campagins.
If you are interested in more detailed background info, please see this statement: https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/55782-Our-Apologies-Starter-Packs-Founder-Packs/?postID=547128#post547128
I don't see anything wrong with it.
You probably should have kept the Founder Pack until release to avoid confusion, but the way I see it is that both Packs are actually Founders Packs, one is Class A the other Class B.
Pointless complaint IMO.
But to be honest guys, if you want to avoid a PR disaster, you should give Founders at least 24 hours Headstart.
I don't think people who bought the Starter Packs will have big issues with that.
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