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'Path of Fire is All About Content' - Our Interview with Mike Zadorojny - Guild Wars 2 Interviews

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited August 2017 in News & Features Discussion

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  • ThupliThupli Member RarePosts: 1,318
    I do think they are finally finding their stride, and that is a good thing.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Sadly, this interview didn't give any new information, except for confirmation on new crafting recipes.
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    I still feel a bit cheated for buying the base game before it went f2p. Are they going to have a bundle for HoT and PoF?

    Is there any kind of discount based on previous purchases?
    Sasori_jap
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    So, mounts are the new gliders. Sounds like an extension of HoT. Areas can't be reached until skills are mount unlocked. Looking forward to the demo weekends.
    Hariken

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  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,402

    Kajidourden said:

    I still feel a bit cheated for buying the base game before it went f2p. Are they going to have a bundle for HoT and PoF?



    Is there any kind of discount based on previous purchases?



    You can add HoT for $20 when you purchase PoF on the official website (for a total of $50 which was HoT cost when it released, PoF without HoT is $30). You might find HoT on "sales" elsewhere lower than $20 though.

    It should be noted that if you purchase from the official website you get all the extra stuff (pre-order bonuses, edition items) right away after adding the code to your account.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    I ordered ingame and got a lot of the stuff right away. Level 80, character slot, name change and makeover, outfit, and some other stuff. 

    So even if you make a lvl 80 you still have to do HoT for Elites and glider skills and PoF for mounts and skills.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • wyyywyyy Member UncommonPosts: 10
    Not a single question about future raids; nice one mmorpg team.
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  • BeornRaukarBeornRaukar Member CommonPosts: 1

    wyyy said:

    Not a single question about future raids; nice one mmorpg team.



    It was confirmed on the official forum that both raids and fractals will continue as live updates after the launch of PoF.
  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,402

    BeornRaukar said:



    wyyy said:


    Not a single question about future raids; nice one mmorpg team.






    It was confirmed on the official forum that both raids and fractals will continue as live updates after the launch of PoF.



    Along PvP and WvW updates.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

    wyyy said:

    Not a single question about future raids; nice one mmorpg team.



    There's always one.

    We had a list of about 100 questions but had to reduce it down to a "doable" amount. Thanks @BeornRaukar for your information :)
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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Octagon7711 said:
    I ordered ingame and got a lot of the stuff right away. Level 80, character slot, name change and makeover, outfit, and some other stuff. 

    So even if you make a lvl 80 you still have to do HoT for Elites and glider skills and PoF for mounts and skills.
    If you want a glider you still need to do a little HoT, yes. The other elite skills from it seems pointless here though, but you might want to do the one in the original game that gets you the auto loot function as well if you never got HoT,you will be able to do them without HoT.

    I do think you should do fine with the basic glider in either case. As for the new mounts it will require a bit of grind if you want them all, particularly with maxed out skills.
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    Yeah, the glider basics are probably all you'll need in PoF. If at all. There

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    I bought HoT and aside from getting a Rev to level 20, before putting the game down, I've seen NONE of HoT's content.....nothing. I'm in no rush here either.
  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680

    Octagon7711 said:

    So, mounts are the new gliders. Sounds like an extension of HoT. Areas can't be reached until skills are mount unlocked. Looking forward to the demo weekends.



    It is but you have to hand it to them with the mount disguise. Offer players mounts and they drool all over themselves. Instead of grinding masteries for mushroom hopping and gliding like you did in HOT you do it with mounts and you will need all the mounts for different zones. Passing on this expansion now. I don't mind hard content but i hated how you had to navigate the zone in HOT and this will be the same thing.
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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Hariken said:

    It is but you have to hand it to them with the mount disguise. Offer players mounts and they drool all over themselves. Instead of grinding masteries for mushroom hopping and gliding like you did in HOT you do it with mounts and you will need all the mounts for different zones. Passing on this expansion now. I don't mind hard content but i hated how you had to navigate the zone in HOT and this will be the same thing.
    I can't really say yes or no to that but the free demo trial this week will show if that is right or not.
    Give it a go, spotting how the zone layouts are should be fast.
  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197
    Radoo said:
    Dem gems doe!
    3 days and nada so far. Much quality very wow. Such Ultimate. Extreme Expansion service.

    What part of "up to 72 hours to deliver" did you not understand? :)

    Chillax, it's not like you're not going to get them.
    You also shouldn't use them now, considering there's an anniversary sale coming up.

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  • ThupliThupli Member RarePosts: 1,318
    That is how it works for all gem purchases. I am sure it is a fraud prevention measure to give some time delay to hacking.

  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    edited August 2017
    I still feel a bit cheated for buying the base game before it went f2p. Are they going to have a bundle for HoT and PoF?

    Is there any kind of discount based on previous purchases?
    A three year old game that was frequently discounted at $10 didn't exactly have much value.

    At any rate, to answer your question, yes there is a bundle. Heart of Thorns can be added to PoF for $20 USD. That's a $10 savings.

    Aside from that, there are no discounts of which I am aware. 
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Aeander said:
    A three year old game that was frequently discounted at $10 didn't exactly have much value.

    At any rate, to answer your question, yes there is a bundle. Heart of Thorns can be added to PoF for $20 USD. That's a $10 savings.

    Aside from that, there are no discounts of which I am aware. 
    Agreed, the misstake they made with HoTs release was charging too much, making the base game free at the time was a good idea, got some new players into it. They could have offered a bit more rewards to us already owning it but at least I got an extra char slot.
    Octagon7711
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    Loke666 said:
    Aeander said:
    A three year old game that was frequently discounted at $10 didn't exactly have much value.

    At any rate, to answer your question, yes there is a bundle. Heart of Thorns can be added to PoF for $20 USD. That's a $10 savings.

    Aside from that, there are no discounts of which I am aware. 
    Agreed, the misstake they made with HoTs release was charging too much, making the base game free at the time was a good idea, got some new players into it. They could have offered a bit more rewards to us already owning it but at least I got an extra char slot.
    I agree that HoT was overpriced compared to similar offerings. However, it is an understandable mistake given their history. Eye of the North had a release MSRP of $40 USD, with $50 being the MSRP of the Factions and Nightfall campaigns. Each of these offered much more than Heart of Thorns, but it's easy to see how a studio might mistakenly view their first expansion in an actual MMO as having similar value.

    Regardless, I more than got my money's worth out of the Ultimate edition of Heart of Thorns. There is content and fun to be had, even if it needed more time to cook.
    Octagon7711
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    That glider is essential if you plan on getting all the silverwastes and drytop collectable coins without putting your fist through the screen.
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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Aeander said:
    I agree that HoT was overpriced compared to similar offerings. However, it is an understandable mistake given their history. Eye of the North had a release MSRP of $40 USD, with $50 being the MSRP of the Factions and Nightfall campaigns. Each of these offered much more than Heart of Thorns, but it's easy to see how a studio might mistakenly view their first expansion in an actual MMO as having similar value.

    Regardless, I more than got my money's worth out of the Ultimate edition of Heart of Thorns. There is content and fun to be had, even if it needed more time to cook.
    Really? For once we got it cheaper in Sweden then, I payed $35 for it (EotN) and we usually get $5-10 more expensive. :)

    Anyways, yeah, I have the Ultimate too and I don't regret buying it but are certainly things in it that could have been made better, particularly the final open world zone with the broken mega server function, besides weekends there were never more then 5 people when entering it and you need far more then that to succeed no matter how competent you are.

    Still, I think normal MMO expansions shouldn't cost over $35 for the base pack. It maximize the number of players actually buying it. A new campaign like Factions or Nightfall can be full price but they were massive in a way I never seen before or since and worked as stand alone games.
    TheDarkrayne said:
    That glider is essential if you plan on getting all the silverwastes and drytop collectable coins without putting your fist through the screen.
    You can probably use the mounts for that as well, in fact a few of the coins might be easier to get with a high jumping mount then a glider.

    Anyways, those aren't exactly essential to get, I think I still lack a few coins myself in one or the other.

    But the glider is handy and if nothing else makes it easy to avoid falling to your death in many places. If it is worth paying 20 extra bucks for it if you are uninterested in HoT is another matter (it probably is though).
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    Loke666 said:
    Aeander said:
    I agree that HoT was overpriced compared to similar offerings. However, it is an understandable mistake given their history. Eye of the North had a release MSRP of $40 USD, with $50 being the MSRP of the Factions and Nightfall campaigns. Each of these offered much more than Heart of Thorns, but it's easy to see how a studio might mistakenly view their first expansion in an actual MMO as having similar value.

    Regardless, I more than got my money's worth out of the Ultimate edition of Heart of Thorns. There is content and fun to be had, even if it needed more time to cook.
    Really? For once we got it cheaper in Sweden then, I payed $35 for it (EotN) and we usually get $5-10 more expensive. :)

    Anyways, yeah, I have the Ultimate too and I don't regret buying it but are certainly things in it that could have been made better, particularly the final open world zone with the broken mega server function, besides weekends there were never more then 5 people when entering it and you need far more then that to succeed no matter how competent you are.

    Still, I think normal MMO expansions shouldn't cost over $35 for the base pack. It maximize the number of players actually buying it. A new campaign like Factions or Nightfall can be full price but they were massive in a way I never seen before or since and worked as stand alone games.
    TheDarkrayne said:
    That glider is essential if you plan on getting all the silverwastes and drytop collectable coins without putting your fist through the screen.
    You can probably use the mounts for that as well, in fact a few of the coins might be easier to get with a high jumping mount then a glider.

    Anyways, those aren't exactly essential to get, I think I still lack a few coins myself in one or the other.

    But the glider is handy and if nothing else makes it easy to avoid falling to your death in many places. If it is worth paying 20 extra bucks for it if you are uninterested in HoT is another matter (it probably is though).

    That value proposition is a tough one to make here when you consider business model. When you have subscription MMOs (which honestly shouldn't have paid expansions at all) charging $30+ dollars for expansions, why should a B2P game (which relies on expansions as its only real source of revenue jumps) charge the same amount?
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