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Guild Wars 2 - Hands on With Path of Fire - MMORPG.com

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edited August 2017 in News & Features Discussion

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This weekend, players got to experience the first taste of the Path of Fire expansion. The expansion takes us to the sunburnt wilds of the Crystal Desert, to combat the rising threat of Balthazar, Kralkatorrik and even the Lich, Palawa Joko. Astride their glorious raptor mounts, player got to experience a small chunk of the first map along with the first stage of the story episode that will launch us in to the expansion.

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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    I was really surprised at just how good this was. I wound up so bitterly disappointed with HoT, I didn't expect to enjoy Path of Fire so much. It's hitting all the right notes so far, and has made me excited for GW2 again.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    I actually just gave GW2 another shot and it impressed me enough to buy the expansions and upgrade to a full account.

    Leveling my Elementalist has been fun.

    The biggest negative I've found has been the lack of any real interaction outside of simply wailing on the same mobs when convenient.  I'm hoping to find a guild or something to help change it, but it would be neat if the game encouraged something more than simply zerging group events silently with a bunch of other players, only to wander off silently after the battle is done.

    The gameplay and aesthetic has kept me playing so far, and maybe joining an active guild will help fill the aforementioned void.  I look forward to delving into the expansion content once my Ele gets strong enough!

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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    I actually just gave GW2 another shot and it impressed me enough to buy the expansions and upgrade to a full account.

    Leveling my Elementalist has been fun.

    The biggest negative I've found has been the lack of any real interaction outside of simply wailing on the same mobs when convenient.  I'm hoping to find a guild or something to help change it, but it would be neat if the game encouraged something more than simply zerging group events silently with a bunch of other players, only to wander off silently after the battle is done.

    The gameplay and aesthetic has kept me playing so far, and maybe joining an active guild will help fill the aforementioned void.  I look forward to delving into the expansion content once my Ele gets strong enough!
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  • rertezrertez Member UncommonPosts: 230
    I actually just gave GW2 another shot and it impressed me enough to buy the expansions and upgrade to a full account.

    Leveling my Elementalist has been fun.

    The biggest negative I've found has been the lack of any real interaction outside of simply wailing on the same mobs when convenient.  I'm hoping to find a guild or something to help change it, but it would be neat if the game encouraged something more than simply zerging group events silently with a bunch of other players, only to wander off silently after the battle is done.

    The gameplay and aesthetic has kept me playing so far, and maybe joining an active guild will help fill the aforementioned void.  I look forward to delving into the expansion content once my Ele gets strong enough!
    I would encourage you to find not only one but a couple of guilds instead since the game allows you to be a member of 5 guilds at once. Different guilds have different interests and schedules and most of the guilds don't mind if their members participate in activities organised by other guilds. In fact it is not uncommon to see guilds cooperate in specific activities.

    For starters there are community guilds on all servers that usually organise WvW events and besides that their members generally participate in all kind of other activities such as open world PvE, exploration, Fractals and raids. Being a member of different guilds gives you more possibilities to chose from the type of group content you are interested in. Not to mention that it is beneficial to find other players that are active at the same occasions you are playing. Joining multiple guilds is really good for covering your gaming sessions with various guild activites that match your schedule.
  • geremadygeremady Member UncommonPosts: 73
    Why is every preview of any upcoming game on this site Always so over the top positive?

    @Bill : I am sure you were just as positive about HoT at the time.

    PS I have been playing GW2 on and off for years so I can see the good things but also the not-so-good things
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  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680

    geremady said:

    Why is every preview of any upcoming game on this site Always so over the top positive?



    @Bill : I am sure you were just as positive about HoT at the time.



    PS I have been playing GW2 on and off for years so I can see the good things but also the not-so-good things



    Its not just this site. They all do this to promote clicks on their sites. This is why you should use your brain instead of getting caught up in the hype. If they were willing to let players preview the first new zone you can bet it will be the newbie starter zone of the expansion.
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  • PinoXPinoX Member UncommonPosts: 71
    edited August 2017
    Not many youtubers and reviewers are going into details of issues in this PoF demo.

    The unidentified gears problem that was mentioned by this reviewer did not go into details of the downside at all. Salvaging unidentified gears does not give ectos and the overall cost of identifying them just to salvage will plunge you into a loss. Why would you want to identify? it's because rares and exotics are in them too. Potentially, there is a possibility of salvaging precursor.
    There is a huge discussion about it in GW2 official forum. There are some people suggesting this system is possibly put in place for the introduction of Gemstore IDing Kits. Indeed, this might be why the basic cost of the PoF is as low as $30 in comparison to pricier HoT.
    Please go to GW2 official forum to check out the discussion. It seems to be introduction of huge gold sink and lots of ppl seems to be rather unhappy.

    Another problem that came up in this PoF demo is Motion Sickness for quite a number participants as a result from using mount. There is a major discussion going on in the official GW2 forum too regarding this. Anet has not come up with an official solution for it.
    Please beware mounts are integral part of the PoF maps for travelling. And if there isn't going to be a clear cut solution to this, this could affect you. So, please keep this in mind before purchasing.

    There are also some criticism that the content of demo are rather bland though the maps and mounts are visually pleasing. The East side of the map (2/3 revealed) feels very barren. Indeed, there doesn't seem to be any major meta events show cased in the demo. Overall, the map feels like GW2 vanilla leveling maps. Whether that is a good thing or not, it's not for me to say because it's a rather subjective matter.
    It is not entirely clear whether the barren area was barren for the purpose of the demo or it will be barren when it's released.

    Elite spec demo is next weekend. If they still allowed access to the demo map, please do make sure you don't get motion sickness from the mount and look+feel the map for yourself.

    Beware that a lot of reviewers and youtubers of this game are closer to an extension of Anet's marketing department rather than an objective one.
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  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363

    PinoX said:

    Not many youtubers and reviewers are going into details of issues in this PoF demo.



    The unidentified gears problem that was mentioned by this reviewer did not go into details of the downside at all. Salvaging unidentified gears does not give ectos and the overall cost of identifying them just to salvage will plunge you into a loss. Why would you want to identify? it's because rares and exotics are in them too. Potentially, there is a possibility of salvaging precursor.

    There is a huge discussion about it in GW2 official forum. There are some people suggesting this system is possibly put in place for the introduction of Gemstore IDing Kits. Indeed, this might be why the basic cost of the PoF is as low as $30 in comparison to pricier HoT.

    Please go to GW2 official forum to check out the discussion. It seems to be introduction of huge gold sink and lots of ppl seems to be rather unhappy.



    Another problem that come up in this PoF demo is Motion Sickness for quite a number participants as a result from using mounts. There is a major discussion going on in the official GW2 forum too regarding this. Anet has not come up with an official solution for it.

    Please beware mounts are integral part of the PoF maps for travelling. And if there isn't going to be a clear cut solution to this, this could affect you. So, please keep this in mind before purchasing.



    There are also some criticism that the content of demo are rather bland though the maps and mounts are visually pleasing. The East side of the map (2/3 revealed) feels very barren. Indeed, there doesn't seem to be any major meta events show cased in the demo. Overall, the map feels like GW2 vanilla leveling maps. Whether that is a good thing or not, it's not for me to say because it's a rather subjective matter.

    It is not entirely clear whether the barren area was barren for the purpose of the demo or it will be barren when it's released.



    Elite spec demo is next weekend. If they still allowed access to the demo map, please do make sure you don't get motion sickness from the mount and look+feel the map for yourself.



    Beware that a lot of reviewers and youtubers of this game are closer to an extension of Anet's marketing department rather than an objective one.



    It is a desert - it is supposed to be barren. Did you think they turned off many of the major events because it would give too much away? I am just asking because it feels people like to complain just because they can.
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  • PinoXPinoX Member UncommonPosts: 71
    edited August 2017

    botrytis said:



    PinoX said:


    Not many youtubers and reviewers are going into details of issues in this PoF demo.





    The unidentified gears problem that was mentioned by this reviewer did not go into details of the downside at all. Salvaging unidentified gears does not give ectos and the overall cost of identifying them just to salvage will plunge you into a loss. Why would you want to identify? it's because rares and exotics are in them too. Potentially, there is a possibility of salvaging precursor.


    There is a huge discussion about it in GW2 official forum. There are some people suggesting this system is possibly put in place for the introduction of Gemstore IDing Kits. Indeed, this might be why the basic cost of the PoF is as low as $30 in comparison to pricier HoT.


    Please go to GW2 official forum to check out the discussion. It seems to be introduction of huge gold sink and lots of ppl seems to be rather unhappy.





    Another problem that come up in this PoF demo is Motion Sickness for quite a number participants as a result from using mounts. There is a major discussion going on in the official GW2 forum too regarding this. Anet has not come up with an official solution for it.


    Please beware mounts are integral part of the PoF maps for travelling. And if there isn't going to be a clear cut solution to this, this could affect you. So, please keep this in mind before purchasing.





    There are also some criticism that the content of demo are rather bland though the maps and mounts are visually pleasing. The East side of the map (2/3 revealed) feels very barren. Indeed, there doesn't seem to be any major meta events show cased in the demo. Overall, the map feels like GW2 vanilla leveling maps. Whether that is a good thing or not, it's not for me to say because it's a rather subjective matter.


    It is not entirely clear whether the barren area was barren for the purpose of the demo or it will be barren when it's released.





    Elite spec demo is next weekend. If they still allowed access to the demo map, please do make sure you don't get motion sickness from the mount and look+feel the map for yourself.





    Beware that a lot of reviewers and youtubers of this game are closer to an extension of Anet's marketing department rather than an objective one.






    It is a desert - it is supposed to be barren. Did you think they turned off many of the major events because it would give too much away? I am just asking because it feels people like to complain just because they can.



    If you have played the previous HoT beta, they didn't turn off the meta event but rather cut off. They didn't release the full map but all of the contents for that part of map were all there. So, IF the they followed the same pattern, then we can probably expect it will be like that on release.
    When I say barren, it's not exactly per se barren. There are mobs there but there are literally huge space of nothing happening. There are no events chain passing through them. There are sporadic pop up for bounties on some part, that's about it.
    That's why I said this is probably one part that people playing the demo has to objectively consider and look at. Not everything in GW2 is sunshine and flowers.

    All I am saying is ppl needs to approach with caution when it comes to GW2:PoF. PoF is an expansion/extension of HoT. It doesn't follow the core design manifesto of GW2 vanilla. As matter of fact the original vanilla team designers were long gone.
    HoT was one heck of a mess.
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    The interesting thing they are doing is creating expansions with one primary way of travel. HoT a lot of the HPs and MPs can only be reached by glider. PoF it looks like it will be the same with mounts. Areas only being reached by mounts with certain skills. Waypoints reduced and areas specifically designed around one method of travel. This a big departure from having a choice of travel methods to reach areas in a games map.

    I had fun over the weekend creating different classes to see how they handled the new content. Didn't get motion sickness but that thread is very big in the GW2 forums.
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  • MargraveMargrave Member RarePosts: 1,371
    I wanted to use the mounts in other territories other than just the new expansion areas.
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297

    Margrave said:

    I wanted to use the mounts in other territories other than just the new expansion areas.



    You can

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  • CazrielCazriel Member RarePosts: 419
    A lot of players feel burned by HoT and are cautious about PoF. Previews which are hype-y don't convince people who are "yeah, right" about Anet's changed design for GW2.

    The PoF FAQs, however, clearly state that you do not need HoT in order to play PoF, so however much it follows HoT, it apparently isn't enough to require that content.

    This makes me think that Anet got it that the community is sour on HoT and may just be kicking it to the curb. This expansion either mends things with players or loses them for good.
  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,402

    Margrave said:

    I wanted to use the mounts in other territories other than just the new expansion areas.



    You can

    Once the expansion release...
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004

    PinoX said:



    botrytis said:





    PinoX said:



    Not many youtubers and reviewers are going into details of issues in this PoF demo.







    The unidentified gears problem that was mentioned by this reviewer did not go into details of the downside at all. Salvaging unidentified gears does not give ectos and the overall cost of identifying them just to salvage will plunge you into a loss. Why would you want to identify? it's because rares and exotics are in them too. Potentially, there is a possibility of salvaging precursor.



    There is a huge discussion about it in GW2 official forum. There are some people suggesting this system is possibly put in place for the introduction of Gemstore IDing Kits. Indeed, this might be why the basic cost of the PoF is as low as $30 in comparison to pricier HoT.



    Please go to GW2 official forum to check out the discussion. It seems to be introduction of huge gold sink and lots of ppl seems to be rather unhappy.







    Another problem that come up in this PoF demo is Motion Sickness for quite a number participants as a result from using mounts. There is a major discussion going on in the official GW2 forum too regarding this. Anet has not come up with an official solution for it.



    Please beware mounts are integral part of the PoF maps for travelling. And if there isn't going to be a clear cut solution to this, this could affect you. So, please keep this in mind before purchasing.







    There are also some criticism that the content of demo are rather bland though the maps and mounts are visually pleasing. The East side of the map (2/3 revealed) feels very barren. Indeed, there doesn't seem to be any major meta events show cased in the demo. Overall, the map feels like GW2 vanilla leveling maps. Whether that is a good thing or not, it's not for me to say because it's a rather subjective matter.



    It is not entirely clear whether the barren area was barren for the purpose of the demo or it will be barren when it's released.







    Elite spec demo is next weekend. If they still allowed access to the demo map, please do make sure you don't get motion sickness from the mount and look+feel the map for yourself.







    Beware that a lot of reviewers and youtubers of this game are closer to an extension of Anet's marketing department rather than an objective one.









    It is a desert - it is supposed to be barren. Did you think they turned off many of the major events because it would give too much away? I am just asking because it feels people like to complain just because they can.






    If you have played the previous HoT beta, they didn't turn off the meta event but rather cut off. They didn't release the full map but all of the contents for that part of map were all there. So, IF the they followed the same pattern, then we can probably expect it will be like that on release.

    When I say barren, it's not exactly per se barren. There are mobs there but there are literally huge space of nothing happening. There are no events chain passing through them. There are sporadic pop up for bounties on some part, that's about it.

    That's why I said this is probably one part that people playing the demo has to objectively consider and look at. Not everything in GW2 is sunshine and flowers.



    All I am saying is ppl needs to approach with caution when it comes to GW2:PoF. PoF is an expansion/extension of HoT. It doesn't follow the core design manifesto of GW2 vanilla. As matter of fact the original vanilla team designers were long gone.

    HoT was one heck of a mess.



    I will miss the dynamic events that started in one zone and took you across the zone which ended in a big dynamic event. The new events are more like public raids. This is why I still mostly do the original content. Look forward to using mounts in Tyria.

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  • sumdumguy1sumdumguy1 Member RarePosts: 1,373
    I tried the demo extensively as I made characters for every class and did the base story plus a few other things.  My whole purpose was to test classes but somewhere in there I actually like the demo alot.  I also saw many of the posts on the forums and its more about people going back and forth (We totally have no clue about that over here do we ;)  )   I do understand some of the concerns and some of them are legit, the fixes for them should also be fairly easy.  However, its also important to realize some very good things about this expansion were valid as well.  The big picture to me is the base expansion is solid and the issues are relatively minor for the most part.  
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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    People get motion sickness from MMORPG mounts? Wow, that is something I wouldn't guessed.

    Is it the same with the glider as well? And how is it in other mounted MMOs?

    Anyways, this will be a huge problem once MMOs go into VR because that is many times worse. In my case I noticed no problems by being on a mount.

    Did anyone who did feel motion sickness tried messing with the camera settings? It would be logical to assume that the right setting would at least help somewhat.

    I know motion sickness is a real problem and are not trying to make light of it.
  • rertezrertez Member UncommonPosts: 230

    Cazriel said:

    A lot of players feel burned by HoT and are cautious about PoF. Previews which are hype-y don't convince people who are "yeah, right" about Anet's changed design for GW2.



    The PoF FAQs, however, clearly state that you do not need HoT in order to play PoF, so however much it follows HoT, it apparently isn't enough to require that content.



    This makes me think that Anet got it that the community is sour on HoT and may just be kicking it to the curb. This expansion either mends things with players or loses them for good.



    I guess ANet's strategy is to sell HoT along with PoF for the extra revenue. Telling the audience that HoT is not required to play PoF is telling that new/returning players don't need to have access to Gliding, Revenant, HoT Elite Specs. I guess HoT raids remain exclusive to HoT too. Sure we need all those features they're just not requirements. In my opinion it is advised to own HoT to fully enjoy PoF regardless of the fact that PoF will be a standalone content package alongside with HoT. I truly hope that ANet are confident in boosting HoT sales by the success of PoF. In that case the new content package should treat us really well right from the start. At least I hope so. The first demo weekend seemed to be very promising for me.
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Motion sickness issues are likely directly related to how much post processing people have enabled. If you've cranked up that sharpness.. and enable motion blur... well, you're not going to have a good time.
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  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,108


    I was really surprised at just how good this was. I wound up so bitterly disappointed with HoT, I didn't expect to enjoy Path of Fire so much. It's hitting all the right notes so far, and has made me excited for GW2 again.



    Same here! I'm really happy with what I've seen and played so far. As a GW1 player I hated HoT, it felt like it deviated too much from the lore and world that I had grown so attached to in the first game, among other reasons.
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004

    Loke666 said:

    People get motion sickness from MMORPG mounts? Wow, that is something I wouldn't guessed.



    Is it the same with the glider as well? And how is it in other mounted MMOs?



    Anyways, this will be a huge problem once MMOs go into VR because that is many times worse. In my case I noticed no problems by being on a mount.



    Did anyone who did feel motion sickness tried messing with the camera settings? It would be logical to assume that the right setting would at least help somewhat.



    I know motion sickness is a real problem and are not trying to make light of it.



    First time I've heard of it also and I've played a lot of MMO's with mounts. Just about everything you can think of has been suggested and tried. Worked better for some people but not all. Zooming out helped some, changing camera settings. One guy said the sliding stop the mounts do and the mounting and dismounting animations were really bad for his motion sickness.

    Someone did comment on another game that had that as a problem and said one of the devs who worked on the project had motion sickness problems so he build in some setting to correct it to a degree.

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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    :D :D These people with motion sickness should play Blade and Soul and get on those dragon pulses
  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,402
    Loke666 said:
    People get motion sickness from MMORPG mounts? Wow, that is something I wouldn't guessed.

    Is it the same with the glider as well? And how is it in other mounted MMOs?

    Anyways, this will be a huge problem once MMOs go into VR because that is many times worse. In my case I noticed no problems by being on a mount.

    Did anyone who did feel motion sickness tried messing with the camera settings? It would be logical to assume that the right setting would at least help somewhat.

    I know motion sickness is a real problem and are not trying to make light of it.
    I have no issues with the mounts in GW2 and I have plenty of motion sickness in other games (especially when they are in first person and/or have bobbing). My post-processing is set to low too (my eyes were getting tired too much before I did that) and I also play in mouselock all the time. Going by some gif I saw, some players are playing with free cameras and watching that gif did make me motion sick though.
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  • der_bayer36der_bayer36 Member UncommonPosts: 26
    the mount was great. i cant wait for next weekend to try the new elites.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,486


    Motion sickness issues are likely directly related to how much post processing people have enabled. If you've cranked up that sharpness.. and enable motion blur... well, you're not going to have a good time.


    I turn motion blur down, and have the camera FoV out as far as it can go by default, turn off camera shake so I had no issues with motion sickness. I'm one of those that get motion sickness from games with terrible FoV and no reticle in the center of the screen so I make extra sure I set the settings to how I need them.
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