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Closed Alpha to Begin September 15, System Specs Revealed - Wild West Online - MMORPG.com
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Closed Alpha to Begin September 15, System Specs Revealed - Wild West Online - MMORPG.com
Wild West Online News - The Wild West Online site has been updated with the start date fro the closed alpha. According to the site, it will begin on September 15th. Anyone purchasing the Collector level Founder Pack will have access to Closed Alpha testing as well as Early Access to the Closed Beta later this fall and a few days Early Access prior to the game's release. The Collector pack is $60.
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As i have said before,devs used to beg people to test their unfinished games,so why are people so dumb now a days to want to pay them?
Matter of fact developers usually/often hire in house testers,they get PAID to test the game.So yet again these are nothing more than attempts to get money before a product is fit for sale.
A refund is meaningless unless you see the final product.So i should assume this will be a typical scam job like BDO pulled off,do something and you forfeit your refund.
Guess what,i want to make judgement on the FINAL product and not the testing phase,so is this refund open until the final release date?
Ok so i went to the site to find out more....
Game seems good enough "on paper",they cover the bases of stuff i expect like exploration,secrets,housing.However seeing the mention of free expansions /content tells me a very heavy cash shop,this is likely in form of the housing.
As to the refund ,only good until the second phase of Alpha,so they want you top make a decision based on NOT being the final product nor would we have full knowledge of the final cash shop.The cash shop intrusion is VERY important to know before handing over money,so this is NOT a FAIR offer as the yput it in the documentation.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
So these early access gimmicks are sticking a knife in their own foot because i am sure others wil not support these tactics,too bad the game will likely be good enough but i ma just not going to support this.
Run your business properly,do it RIGHT or you don't get money from me.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
It was a giant resource grab, whether it was land for farming or grazing cattle. Or mining towns like Virginia City. Or how towns followed the railroads. Guns were just a tool and, surprisingly, cowboys didn't really use them like they did in the movies or TV westerns. The Indian threat was not exactly like it was depicted in movies as well, with blood thirsty marauders hidden behind every rock. Sure, there were some tribes that were very ferocious, or had ferocious outbreaks of violence, but a lot of them were very peaceful to their own demise. But their fate was sealed long before the calvary came charging in.
Had they chosen this game to be a build game, or a sandbox trade game kind of like Life is Feudal, it might make more sense and be a little more accurate. But to me this just looks like a level grind game where every character is either a crack shot or a villain.
As mama always said, "It pays to do your homework."
http://www.mmorpg.com/wild-west-online-gunfighter/news/updated-does-the-games-engine-mean-warz-dev-involvement-1000044343
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Seeing how common this approach is I expect it has largely met with success. So long as players are willing to buy into them they will continue to become more prevalent, to the point where trying to find a game that didn't use the approach will be as hard as finding one with no f2p option.
For this not to become the industry default the vast majority of gamers would have to commit to not purchasing any early access offers over a prolonged period of time. Good luck with that.
So, basically this is now the way of things. These companies will have to do without your money, in lieu of sacrificing the much greater sum they will likely get offering early access.
ok on WWO forums they have a statment that says:-
"We'd like to address some concern that has been voiced regarding use of the Nightshade engine. Yes, we are using the Nightshade game engine from Free Reign Entertainment. However, 612 Games is neither a subsidiary of Free Reign, nor financed by Free Reign or Sergey Titov."
If of course features gun play, and the ability to play outlaws and lawmen. These need to be there as they are part of the setting.
They also speak of choosing to be a miner, or being a farmer that raises crops for a living, of being an explorer of what would still be largely uncharted lands.
It sounds from the description that more than the simplicity you describe.
I don't expect it will be extremely realistic or deep in simulation. I think more players would be attracted by the ideal of the Old West than the reality of it. The game will probably have a niche enough audience as it is.
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Perhaps it will be a roaring success, but I certainly won't give it a penny until well after the supposed launch, if it actually turns out to worth playing.
ACTUALLY, they only stated he had nothing to do with the "Funding" of the game. That doesnt mean he has nothing to do with the game.
But they are using the same built-in anti-cheat system. Which is horrific considering previous games with the same engine died to being unfinished and poluted with cheats/hacks.
My mama always said, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is most likely a duck.
I am very surprised that this site would take a developer at its word where Sergey Titov may or may not be involved. Sergey has played the company shell game before and doing my homework, it looks like 612 games and DJ2 publisher are not being entirely honest with everyone. It is sad that I have to go to the Kotaku site to see some of the crazy stuff going on while this site acts blindly takes their word as gospel. The following is from the Kotaku site and shows some of the "shell game" stuff going on behind this game:
"Developer 612 Games, meanwhile, is described as being “comprised of numerous industry veterans who collectively have over a century of development and production experience. Our team have worked for over a decade specifically in the open-world PC MMO survival genre, and have contributed to titles like League Of Legends, the Crysis series, Ryse, Armored Warfare, Neverwinter Nights, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Star Trek Online and many, many others.”
As superficially reassuring as that roll-call of names might be, it’s surprisingly difficult to track down any additional information on 612 Games as a developer. It doesn’t appear to have a Twitter page, and its official website, which was only registered in March this year — two months before Wild West Online’s reveal — consists of two pages, one of which is a “Come back soon” page, and the other a list of its principal staff. Neither page makes mention of Wild West Online.
Things get a little more confusing when you look at those principal staff members and realise that two of the three also work for DJ2 Entertainment, in different job roles. DJ2 told PC Gamer in its Wild West Online reveal that 612 Games is partially-owned by DJ2, and that DJ2 owns equity in 612 Games. But that doesn’t really help pin down 612’s development pedigree — information that would doubtless be useful to potential Early Bird backers — and only adds to the sense that these companies are very tangled up with each other.
The official 612 Games website homepage.
The only non-DJ2 name on 612 Games’ website is Sirus Ahmadi, listed as the company CEO. Unfortunately, Ahmadi’s LinkedIn profile only notes his involvement with 612 Games from March 2017 to March 2017. His current role is listed as CEO of tech company OPEN-2, LLC, whose registered company address is at 612 Santa Monica Boulevard. The same address that’s registered for, yep you guessed it, DJ2 Entertainment, closing the circle once more."
Sergei starts new companies each time he releases a game just to gain as many sales as he can before people realize he is involved.
Simple, stay away untill the real beta. Not while the cash grab alpha.. as you said though..Sergei is always close of those games....Always.
It is very likely a duck, but even after it quacks you likely won't read about it here first.
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I linked the Kotaku article that wrote about some of this back in July in the WWO first game play article. Luckily there are some sites that do investigative journalism articles about some of these games: http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/07/11/wtf-is-going-on-with-wild-west-online
So is Titov involved? There is no definitive proof and there are official denials but I'm guessing that he is. As much as I would love to see a wild west MMO, all I'm seeing is re-skinned Titov zombie survival game.
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― CD PROJEKT RED
No one ever said that there aren't problems but people need to just use their head, know what they are getting into and if there are any doubts just "don't".
Also to have the right mindset. Even if a game launches, and on time no less, it's possible that it won't be the exact game promised due to changes in development.
You can only protect people from themselves "so much" before you have to start wondering if they would be better off being Soylent Green.
As for this game, I don't see those involved having been involved in anything that hit it out of the park.
Enclave was considered really good looking for its time, that's about it. So it's possible they can make a game but it might not be the omgfriggingodawesome" that people want it to be.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Seems to me like a huge part of using your head is having access to the relevant info. In this particular case we have a Kotaku article that raises some interesting questions but even that is a rare piece of investigative journalism where gaming is concerned. 99% of what is reported is just promotional or at best, neutral.
So who takes up the slack?
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
We can stick our heads in the sand as far as we want because we all have a crowdfunded title that we, deep down, would love to see happen (even if we haven't personally funded it), but you can't, with a straight face, attempt to submit that Titov's run with crowdfunding isn't a poster child level indication that crowdfunding needs to move out of the wild west it's currently in (no pun intended).