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World of Warcraft - Blizzcon 2017 - What We Might See & Learn About WoW's Expansion - MMORPG.com

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited October 2017 in News & Features Discussion

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This week is a big one for World of Warcraft fans with Blizzcon kicking into high gear. The Arena Championship road begins today, ultimately culminating in Friday's opening of Blizzcon itself. This year will be a big one for WoW as most fans and players are expecting an expansion announcement as the final Legion raid is ready for release. We're going to take a look at all things WoW + Blizzcon, so sit back and enjoy.

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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    I only have one 100% wager to make: If they kill off another Horde Warchief (i.e. Sylvanas), I will quit WoW for good. Other than that, well, pretty much everything else is OK.
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  • SadfistSadfist Member UncommonPosts: 15
    edited October 2017
    If Legion was the next expansion after WotLK instead of Cataclysm, and "Kul Tiras-South Seas-Azshara" instead of Pandaria (or Warlords), maybe I would still be hyped about lore and where it goes, but this trick with bringing old enemies back to life instead of creating new, strong characters kinda killed it for me. Also it just doesn't feel like WoW is about "races and starting zones" anymore (gnomes and Gnomeregan, Moira and the Council of Three Hammers etc.), neither it's really about Horde vs. Alliance (same boring trick: we are enemies but we must unite because.. "greater evil"). Which is a shame, because those starting areas, world itself and the faction conflict is what made me fall in love with WoW more then 10 years ago. Now it's all about "bring new big baddie every 3-4 months so we can watch the guide on YT and kill it asap". WoW is getting old.. and so am I :)
    BillMurphySBFordhasho83martynooo
  • WarlyxWarlyx Member EpicPosts: 3,368
    i guess no new class , new races instead and wondering about what happens to legendary weapon....what "new" system they bring , path of titans? :P dance studio?
    daltanious
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

    Warlyx said:

    i guess no new class , new races instead and wondering about what happens to legendary weapon....what "new" system they bring , path of titans? :P dance studio?


    In fairness, another new class after just introducing Demon Hunters is a huge stretch.

    And...there's already a monthly or whatever "Dance Studio" thing that takes place in capital city auction houses :|
    MrMelGibson


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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    edited October 2017

    SBFord said:

    I only have one 100% wager to make: If they kill off another Horde Warchief (i.e. Sylvanas), I will quit WoW for good. Other than that, well, pretty much everything else is OK.



    I dont personally care much about the horde other than Sylvanas (I liked Garrosh oddly enough and was interested in the Blood Elves but never really went out of my way to learn more about them). I'd probably not play horde much if they did something to Sylvanas though. But then again, I did stop playing most of WoD as horde just because the garrisons on alliance side looked better for the cost it was to build them up. Some expensive logs and rope.... Overall, I just want Blizzcon to come and go so I can stop seeing 293842938420 speculation videos on youtube and dump my battle net balance on the pre-order in january. I'll only care about sub races if they get body tattoos like DH.
    SBFord
  • RidrithRidrith Member RarePosts: 859
    My main issue with World of Warcraft at this point is that the storyline has gone to shit. I thought they had jumped the shark when they released Pandera and promptly quit. Legion brought me back because I was hoping it would be a little more grounded in WoW lore.

    At this point it's too far gone. What started out as really cool story involving different races, politics, trying to find the balance of having to live on the same world and picking up the pieces after a mass invasion by another race from another planet... Has turned into some galatic-world ending scale sort of bullshit every expansion. It's trite and boring at this point. I mean we're going to bring down Sarg once and for all in Legion... So, what's the point? This all started because of him. Now we're looking at some OTHER world-ending power which is the 'Void Gods'. It's just really fucking lame.

    It's basically a 3.5 D&D campaign where some crazy DM and his players have finally reached level 60 in every class and just continue playing. So now they're just picking off gods like it's nothing. Super boring. There's a reason most campaigns end around level 12-15. Worse part is, Blizzard can't ground the story ever again. After defeating Sarg everything else is just going to seem like a fucking waste of effort and time. Not to mention the idea that the factions are STILL FIGHTING EACH OTHER while all of these universe ending threats continue to show up.
    I like to complain about games.
  • Kane72Kane72 Member UncommonPosts: 211
    I've played every WoW expansion and I'm disappointed with where the end game sits with Legion and more recently, the Argus release.

    The game is just one repetition of going around doing the world quests and and/or raiding and it's just rinse and repeat with very little variety.

    With Argus, we just have a new map area to do the exact same thing - there's no originality or thought going into this. Making a dungeon/raid is easy for Blizzard. Making a new map to do more world quests is easy too. They are getting sub money for very little return.

    For the next expansion, please put something into it that feels less repetitive and more worthwhile.
    SBFordpantaro
  • CoolitCoolit Member UncommonPosts: 661
    I'd personally be more excited if Bliz come out and announce official Legacy servers.
    hasho83Xarko
  • CoatedCoated Member UncommonPosts: 507
    Coolit said:
    I'd personally be more excited if Bliz come out and announce official Legacy servers.
    The only news Blizzard could announce that would ever get me back to WoW.
    Coolit
  • hasho83hasho83 Member UncommonPosts: 84
    I guess im to old to get tricked again,and thats bad ;( . See you guys when DiabloMMORPG or WOW2 comes out ! Peace !!!
    Octagon7711
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Me wants a female void elf mage. :)
  • alivenaliven Member UncommonPosts: 346
    SBFord said:
    I only have one 100% wager to make: If they kill off another Horde Warchief (i.e. Sylvanas), I will quit WoW for good. Other than that, well, pretty much everything else is OK.
    Well im oposite - hoping they will indeed make her a loot pinata, better yet in some lame ass cinematic killed by some gnome. She dont deserve better. 
    SBFordMrMelGibsonXarko
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited October 2017
    aliven said:
    SBFord said:
    I only have one 100% wager to make: If they kill off another Horde Warchief (i.e. Sylvanas), I will quit WoW for good. Other than that, well, pretty much everything else is OK.
    Well im oposite - hoping they will indeed make her a loot pinata, better yet in some lame ass cinematic killed by some gnome. She dont deserve better. 
    Ah...one of those. Lemme guess....Human Paladin, amiright?

    * enters roleplay mode * "Come, frail hooman, we will destroy you and have The Dark Lady raise you to be one of the noble race, The Forsaken!" ;)

    *leaves RP mode* You realize that Blizz always does things in parity between the factions. Which of your fair leaders are you willing to sacrifice for the Horde murder hobos, hmm? Anduin? Tyrande? Or...best yet...Jaina herself? :D


    Compared to Sylvanas, everyone else, Alliance leaders especially, is boring. :) 
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  • immoralthangimmoralthang Member RarePosts: 300
    Shame on Blizzard for neglecting Diablo 3.
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited October 2017
    This year they announce official Legacy Servers for sure .... it'll totally happen.
    Apparently you've been chillin' with Malf in the Emerald Dream too long. ;) I predict that it's not gonna happen. :)
    [Deleted User]MrMelGibsonXarko


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  • danisheraserdanisheraser Member UncommonPosts: 33
    World of Warcraft is dead. Please stop trying to revive it with boring expansions.
    alivenGhavriggTheScavengerKalebGraysonXarkoKaneth
  • alivenaliven Member UncommonPosts: 346
    SBFord said:
    aliven said:
    SBFord said:
    I only have one 100% wager to make: If they kill off another Horde Warchief (i.e. Sylvanas), I will quit WoW for good. Other than that, well, pretty much everything else is OK.
    Well im oposite - hoping they will indeed make her a loot pinata, better yet in some lame ass cinematic killed by some gnome. She dont deserve better. 
    Ah...one of those. Lemme guess....Human Paladin, amiright?

    * enters roleplay mode * "Come, frail hooman, we will destroy you and have The Dark Lady raise you to be one of the noble race, The Forsaken!" ;)

    *leaves RP mode* You realize that Blizz always does things in parity between the factions. Which of your fair leaders are you willing to sacrifice for the Horde murder hobos, hmm? Anduin? Tyrande? Or...best yet...Jaina herself? :D


    Compared to Sylvanas, everyone else, Alliance leaders especially, is boring. :) 
    I play both factions and never felt more disgusted than stormheim experience as Orc Shaman. 

    Even forsaken troops when you kill them they sometimes say "Finally, torment ends" or something similiar. 

    BTW Nathanos is pure Sylvana rabid fanboy transported into game world. 


  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    World of Warcraft is dead. Please stop trying to revive it with boring expansions.
    Its still played by millions

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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited November 2017
    World of Warcraft is dead. Please stop trying to revive it with boring expansions.
    Its still played by millions
    Probably - we don't actually know - however the film was very popular in China hence probably (in China). So maybe the next expansion will be a MoP follow on?
  • GhavriggGhavrigg Member RarePosts: 1,308
    edited November 2017
    World of Warcraft is dead. Please stop trying to revive it with boring expansions.
    Or "I'm butthurt that they're focusing on a new expansion rather than giving me my precious vanilla server."
    pantaroMrMelGibson
  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    edited November 2017
    You know what be amazing story telling and what no one would expect?

    In cataclysm, at the start of Silverpine (Forsaken story) Garrosh says...

    "Remember, Sylvanas, eventually we all have to stand before our maker and face judgment. Your day may come sooner than others..."

    What if she does die as most expect, faces some great "maker" (Naaru?)...who then heals Sylvanas and makes her mortal again, maybe even a high elf (which she used to be). This could then in the future be used to bring back a sub-race of high elves as playable as they can be healed. 

    I dunno what that mean for Forsaken, maybe they'd then get a new leader or something since I doubt they'd want a non-forsaken leading them...but who knows.

    But Sylvanas being healed by a "Naaru" (best example I can think of since they are pure light) after dying would be epic story telling.

    If Sylvanas dies and its permanent, that is stupid story telling and means they can't be creative and re-using ideas over and over since its already been done before with Vol'jin. And the previous tauren leader.

    But imagine if Sylvanas became a high elf again, and her sister returns to her (since rumors Sylvanas sister was returning in possibly next expansion). No one would expect anything like that...being healed from being whatever she is now to being mortal again AND back to being a high elf. 


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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,039
    You know what be amazing story telling and what no one would expect?

    In cataclysm, at the start of Silverpine (Forsaken story) Garrosh says...

    "Remember, Sylvanas, eventually we all have to stand before our maker and face judgment. Your day may come sooner than others..."

    What if she does die as most expect, faces some great "maker" (Naaru?)...who then heals Sylvanas and makes her mortal again, maybe even a high elf (which she used to be). This could then in the future be used to bring back a sub-race of high elves as playable as they can be healed. 

    I dunno what that mean for Forsaken, maybe they'd then get a new leader or something since I doubt they'd want a non-forsaken leading them...but who knows.

    But Sylvanas being healed by a "Naaru" (best example I can think of since they are pure light) after dying would be epic story telling.

    If Sylvanas dies and its permanent, that is stupid story telling and means they can't be creative and re-using ideas over and over since its already been done before with Vol'jin. And the previous tauren leader.

    But imagine if Sylvanas became a high elf again, and her sister returns to her (since rumors Sylvanas sister was returning in possibly next expansion). No one would expect anything like that...being healed from being whatever she is now to being mortal again AND back to being a high elf. 


    It's not a bad idea, but I think it might be a little too close to the Sarah Kerrigan storyline from SC2.  She didn't exactly die, but she did go from Zerg Queen to Human with Zerg Hair in the Terrian campaign.  Then again, it's not like Blizzard to reuse ideas so it's possible.  Maybe you're right.
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  • DvalinDKDvalinDK Member UncommonPosts: 18
    Remove artifact weapons and im back.
  • BalianWolfieBalianWolfie Member UncommonPosts: 240
    Remove artifact weapons and im back.
    Artifact really needs to go, the whole system feels rather punishing for not farming up APs. 

    And yes, I play even a more punishing class, shadow priest.

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    These days I can't tell if I am in the minority or the majority anymore. I hear so many people bash the "Good o'le days" of 1.x, 2.x and 3.x. and yet, we hear about all the issues and popularity of the Vanilla EMUs. I guess it doesn't matter now. But unless they start bringing their new content, systems and mechanics back to what it was that made this game huge in the 1st place, I have no interest in WoW.
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