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Crowfall - From Crowdfunding to Preorder - MMORPG.com

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited November 2017 in News & Features Discussion

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Last week’s Crowfall Q&A had Gordon Walton on and he talked about transitioning Crowfall from its crowdfunding stage to the next: marketing it for its release. Today, a week after that Q&A, ArtCraft released a founder’s update. This update lays down the details about the upcoming transition from crowdfunding the game to selling its preorders.

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  • SlorgSlorg Member UncommonPosts: 37
    Having backed this game in 2015, I cannot wait for it to be released. I love how the devs are constantly churning out new info and seem to be listening a ton to feedback.
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  • toolaktoolak Member UncommonPosts: 154
    This game reminds me of a monster truck stuck in a mud pit. Lots of noise and flash and mud everywhere but making very little progress.
    coleman11bEponyxDamorRighteous_RockAlomarThupliJamesGoblinCapodecinaqomaFyrseyCoatedand 2 others.
  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    Not sure what to make of this game yet. It is a PvP game but there will be seperate servers so there is the possibility of a PvE server? I'm sure this was all fleshed out in some interview but I haven't kept up with all the info out on the game.
  • KrematoryKrematory Member UncommonPosts: 608
    I backed this back in the day... Now I couldn't care less about it, and I doubt I'll ever play it. Oh well, that serves me well I guess.
    Righteous_Rock

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    LOL what the heck did that video have to do with Crowfall?I feel like they released the wrong video for this thread.

    If a single player that took part in crowd funding had the perception the game was not coming,why the heck did they give money then?So the perception would not change one bit as they obviously believed it would release no matter what phase it is in.

    "GREAT people,easy to get along with",haha what else would an employee say being paid and put on the spot?What is she going to say...i don't like working here,i wish Artcraft would go bankrupt?Furthermore ,what does that have to do with the game?Even if i was someone thinking about working at Artcraft,i wouldn't be like....ok i guess i am in,she said it was great here,so it has to be.

    Me? I wouldn't back a single game,i am a customer,not a sucker,i buy products that work not products that might work or will work some time in the future.

    If these rich guys couldn't trust themselves to build a game with their own money,then why on earth would i trust them with my money?

    There has not been one and i doubt will ever be one quality game through these free money ventures.Nobody on this planet will ever respect money given to them the same as if they had to earn it.

    Bottom line,this Crowfall team needs to start sending meaningful videos,something that might actually entice a person to want to play,however they stil need a game to advertise,not promises.
    pantaroCalexBruceYee

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • ThupliThupli Member RarePosts: 1,318
    I won't preorder, but love the race and class combos. So deep, just like shadowbane. I hope they add the possibility of using the engine to make dungeons at some point, both pvp dungeons and pve alike
  • Gobstopper3DGobstopper3D Member RarePosts: 970
    edited December 2017

    flizzer said:

    Not sure what to make of this game yet. It is a PvP game but there will be seperate servers so there is the possibility of a PvE server? I'm sure this was all fleshed out in some interview but I haven't kept up with all the info out on the game.



    I used to follow the game until I learned it was going to go pvp centric. It think it will have pve, but only to provide fodder for pvp players. It's not consensual pvp either. I don't think there will be pve only servers.

    I hope the game is successful, but doubt it will ever be more than a niche game with a small population. Which is fine, as long as it makes enough to keep it going. If I'm off on any of this i'm sure someone will correct me.

    I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.

  • genaknoscgenaknosc Member UncommonPosts: 112

    flizzer said:

    Not sure what to make of this game yet. It is a PvP game but there will be seperate servers so there is the possibility of a PvE server? I'm sure this was all fleshed out in some interview but I haven't kept up with all the info out on the game.



    I used to follow the game until I learned it was going to go pvp centric. It think it will have pve, but only to provide fodder for pvp players. It's not consensual pvp either. I don't think there will be pve only servers.

    I hope the game is successful, but doubt it will ever be more than a niche game with a small population. Which is fine, as long as it makes enough to keep it going. If I'm off on any of this i'm sure someone will correct me.
    Of course it is consensual PvP, by logging into a campaign you are consenting to PvP. You could always just stay in an Eternal Kingdom with PvP disabled though if you want.
    JamesGoblin
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    edited December 2017
    genaknosc said:

    flizzer said:

    Not sure what to make of this game yet. It is a PvP game but there will be seperate servers so there is the possibility of a PvE server? I'm sure this was all fleshed out in some interview but I haven't kept up with all the info out on the game.



    I used to follow the game until I learned it was going to go pvp centric. It think it will have pve, but only to provide fodder for pvp players. It's not consensual pvp either. I don't think there will be pve only servers.

    I hope the game is successful, but doubt it will ever be more than a niche game with a small population. Which is fine, as long as it makes enough to keep it going. If I'm off on any of this i'm sure someone will correct me.
    Of course it is consensual PvP, by logging into a campaign you are consenting to PvP. You could always just stay in an Eternal Kingdom with PvP disabled though if you want.
    You can also avoid PvP by playing only with character creation screen and never proceeding further. Considering the experience you'll get if you never leave Eternal Kingdoms the character creation screen might even be more fun.
    JamesGoblin[Deleted User]laxie
     
  • PapasmervPapasmerv Member UncommonPosts: 63

    flizzer said:

    Not sure what to make of this game yet. It is a PvP game but there will be seperate servers so there is the possibility of a PvE server? I'm sure this was all fleshed out in some interview but I haven't kept up with all the info out on the game.



    I think http://crowfall.wikia.com/wiki/Campaign will help out a lot in gaining an understanding.
    JamesGoblin
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  • kilunkilun Member UncommonPosts: 829

    Wizardry said:


    There has not been one and i doubt will ever be one quality game through these free money ventures.Nobody on this planet will ever respect money given to them the same as if they had to earn it.





    Pillars of Eternity and Path of Exile. There is a slew of quality games made from Crowd funding, and I've backed quite a few.

    Earned it? You mean had a publisher decide they wanted to publish it and direct the game how they see fit, seems to be doing quite fine for the gaming aspect with giants out their like EA gobbling up every good studio just to end it.
    JamesGoblin
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,486
    I wish I could be interested in trying this game because it looks nice, but I just cannot.
    JamesGoblin
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited December 2017
    kilun said:

    Wizardry said:


    There has not been one and i doubt will ever be one quality game through these free money ventures.Nobody on this planet will ever respect money given to them the same as if they had to earn it.





    Pillars of Eternity and Path of Exile. There is a slew of quality games made from Crowd funding, and I've backed quite a few.

    Earned it? You mean had a publisher decide they wanted to publish it and direct the game how they see fit, seems to be doing quite fine for the gaming aspect with giants out their like EA gobbling up every good studio just to end it.
    I happened to played POE for quite awhile and i own Pillars,no they are not good games.

    ARPG"S after having played both POE and Diablo3 are now completely off my radar,they are THAT bad,that cheap.

    Pillars was a throwback to dated game design,it is simply not good enough when compared to bigger studios.I played Pillars for one day and have not gone back to it,matter of fact,the last 6 games i purchased,i have not played them beyond the first day,there has not been many quality games any genre,in a long time,only a handful out of the thousands of studios.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited December 2017
    Crowfall like 99% of the studios that flooded the market,is yet another CHEAP game build.The team is NOT putting forth their best effort,instead only what they can afford to make.

    To make things clear,i have no doubt the industry is capable of making a LOT of triple A games,they simply cannot or will not take the risk of going in too deep.

    I feel there is a distinct reason as to why i enjoyed years of FFXI starting back in 2003.That team led by Tanaka at SE went into deep debt,5 years worth of debt.I did nbot find that out to years later reading interviews with Tanaka but it shows the team was willing to take 5 years to recoup costs before turning a profit.Now a days studios are asking for money UP FRONT with either no effort or little game to show.There is a huge difference in trust and confidence and now a days there is little trust in themselves and no faith in their own work to go into debt.

    I would venture a bet that 99.9% of the studios right now would go defunct if they had to endure 5 years of self debt before turning their first profit.

    Here is a little something ,some might remember maybe not but the guy from Kings Isle "JTodd"once stated that "if people think designing a game is as easy as having 200k,they are grossly wrong".That statement i remember from about 3 years ago,it stuck with me because it really says a lot about these studios trying to make games with sub par budgets.
    BruceYeeburning

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    toolak said:
    This game reminds me of a monster truck stuck in a mud pit. Lots of noise and flash and mud everywhere but making very little progress.
    To take the analogy a bit further.  You're here talking about the Monster Truck stuck in the mud, so the lights and noise have attracted you also.  

    From my side, i'm looking forward to it.
    JamesGoblin

    I self identify as a monkey.

  • TazdragoTazdrago Member UncommonPosts: 44
    Jesus Christ, it's little more than a cash grab..
    JamesGoblin
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,054
    Wizardry said:
    kilun said:

    Wizardry said:


    There has not been one and i doubt will ever be one quality game through these free money ventures.Nobody on this planet will ever respect money given to them the same as if they had to earn it.





    Pillars of Eternity and Path of Exile. There is a slew of quality games made from Crowd funding, and I've backed quite a few.

    Earned it? You mean had a publisher decide they wanted to publish it and direct the game how they see fit, seems to be doing quite fine for the gaming aspect with giants out their like EA gobbling up every good studio just to end it.
    I happened to played POE for quite awhile and i own Pillars,no they are not good games.

    ARPG"S after having played both POE and Diablo3 are now completely off my radar,they are THAT bad,that cheap.

    Pillars was a throwback to dated game design,it is simply not good enough when compared to bigger studios.I played Pillars for one day and have not gone back to it,matter of fact,the last 6 games i purchased,i have not played them beyond the first day,there has not been many quality games any genre,in a long time,only a handful out of the thousands of studios.
    @Wizardry ;I guess World of Final Fantasy wasn't what you expected it to be?

    I am however (as a massive FF fan with 20+ titles owned in the series) curious what is your favourite FF besides your obvious FF11, it might give me some perspective on what you like, if anything at all.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    JamesGoblin
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    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,054
    toolak said:
    This game reminds me of a monster truck stuck in a mud pit. Lots of noise and flash and mud everywhere but making very little progress.
    ? Have you followed the actual game or are you just making this stuff up? They are progressing at rapid speed and you can follow all of it since there is no NDA. I don't know what you are talking about but it sure as hell isn't Crowfall, they are by far the fastest team out there atm using little money, and producing AAA looking and playing gameplay.

    Of all the games to use these arguments against Crowfall is the wrong one. I guess when people read the word Crowdfunding they just go off without looking at the actual product.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • Arkade99Arkade99 Member RarePosts: 538




    flizzer said:


    Not sure what to make of this game yet. It is a PvP game but there will be seperate servers so there is the possibility of a PvE server? I'm sure this was all fleshed out in some interview but I haven't kept up with all the info out on the game.






    I used to follow the game until I learned it was going to go pvp centric. It think it will have pve, but only to provide fodder for pvp players. It's not consensual pvp either. I don't think there will be pve only servers.



    I hope the game is successful, but doubt it will ever be more than a niche game with a small population. Which is fine, as long as it makes enough to keep it going.


    If I'm off on any of this i'm sure someone will correct me.



    There won't be any PvE servers. Mobs will exist to add danger to the world and provide drops for certain crafting components. The different types of servers will be different PvP rulesets, from 3 faction PvP to guild-based servers akin to Shadowbane.

    There won't be any dungeons, raids or quests, so having a PvE server wouldn't really make much sense. Harvesting and crafting will be part of the PvP competition, players fighting over resources, creating the best gear they can to give them an edge against their enemies.

    Each player will have his own Eternal Kingdom though, where you can turn PvP on or off. You can make your EK public or private and build it up however you want, but only the most basic resources will be available there. I'm sure there will be some players who spend all their time in their EK and try to play the economy to get better resources that they can then use to craft and/or build up their EK. Others will gravitate toward the faction based campaigns which will probably be more solo-friendly.
    JamesGoblin
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