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EA Files Patent for Matchmaking System Algorithm that Can Track Player Spending - MMORPG.com News

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited January 2018 in News & Features Discussion

imageEA Files Patent for Matchmaking System Algorithm that Can Track Player Spending - MMORPG.com News

In October 2017, it came to light that Activision had filed for a matchmaking patent that was designed to "dramatically increase the odds for players to purchase microtransaction items". It appears that EA took note and has filed its own patent for an algorithm designed to "drive engagement".

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  • ValdheimValdheim Member RarePosts: 715
    Reading this with Battlefront 2's matchmaking on my mind takes this to a whole new level of ridiculous. EA is like "Well fck it, let's kill the younglings and go all in, full evil mode!"
    Just when you think it can't go worse...
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  • ACommonMuggerACommonMugger Member RarePosts: 563
    I mean, trying not to defend such shitty practices, but..

    They just patented it, not implemented it. There's a lot of different reasons to patent something, but knowing EA, they would probably be the first ones to use it for evil.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    fully armed with knowledge that they are doing this one should do what free market teaches...which is what guys?

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

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  • jgDuffayjgDuffay Member UncommonPosts: 237

    SEANMCAD said:

    fully armed with knowledge that they are doing this one should do what free market teaches...which is what guys?



    Buuuy ALL The Lootboxes ! :D
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    jgDuffay said:
    Buuuy ALL The Lootboxes ! :D
    Co-OP LootBoxes?
  • pantaropantaro Member RarePosts: 515
    Valdheim said:
    Reading this with Battlefront 2's matchmaking on my mind takes this to a whole new level of ridiculous. EA is like "Well fck it, let's kill the younglings and go all in, full evil mode!"
    Just when you think it can't go worse...
    it's EA they can always do worse!
    mrputts
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited January 2018
    Valdheim said:
    Reading this with Battlefront 2's matchmaking on my mind takes this to a whole new level of ridiculous. EA is like "Well fck it, let's kill the younglings and go all in, full evil mode!"
    Just when you think it can't go worse...
    I have this to say about taking the moral high ground on this.

    If you motivation for making these points is NOT authentically and honestly all about 'the kids' then you are being dishonest and not holding a moral high ground.

    something to think about.

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  • CoolitCoolit Member UncommonPosts: 661
    Regardless of whether this will get used or not this just highlights the mentality of EA and the utter disregard they have for their customers.

    I certainly don't want each match chosen for me based on my wallet.
    SBFordPhryNildeninfomatz
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    At this point i would advise anyone against buying an EA game until well after release when the games features have been analysed sufficiently to gauge whether the game is worth buying at all, particularly when it comes to additional monetisation methods used in addition to the box price. Though honestly you can add Bungie to that pile of 'dirty devs' with questionable morals. :/
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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Phry said:
    At this point i would advise anyone against buying an EA game until well after release when the games features have been analysed sufficiently to gauge whether the game is worth buying at all, particularly when it comes to additional monetisation methods used in addition to the box price. Though honestly you can add Bungie to that pile of 'dirty devs' with questionable morals. :/
    agreed!

    and its better than going to legislative route because laws can not make a good developer, only at best not a bad one.

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  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,527
    I look at it like this they can track whatever they want. They can put me at a disadvantage by putting me against people that have paid real world money in hopes that I lose and will buy stuff so I can win. Well guess if I lose enough to people that are paying money I will lose interest and just stop playing instead. If I want to spend money I will spend it, if I don't I will not. They can do whatever they want to but for me personally nothing they do will change whether or not I will put an extra dime into their games. If I enjoy the game I would normally spend a little here or there, it is that simple.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    I will say though where I am more open to discussion about regulation is around disclosure.

    I am not sure where the line is but I would like to at least know which game has what so my purchase is informed.

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    So I guess now we're living in a world where Ubisoft looks good.....so this is what hell is....
    LackingMMOinfomatzTacticalZombeh
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,417
    edited January 2018
    So how will this be used. Will it only match you with players who also buy items to make themselves stronger or will it match you with weaker players so you can own pwn them with your bought items in the hope that weaker players will then get an epiphany and decide to buy items?

    This type of matchmaking will just piss off people. Aside from allowing EA to push their micro transactions how will it promote the game itself? Will it really bring in more players when they are matched against players they have no hope of winning against unless they use their wallet.
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  • berlightberlight Member UncommonPosts: 345
    Real life Evil Corp from Mr Robot.

    Beta tester maniac

  • silddersildder Member UncommonPosts: 10
    edited January 2018
    EA patents a tool to research customer spending - EVIL

    Activision patents a method of actually impacting gameplay with money - GOOD

    Keep drinking the Blizzaid folks.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,071
    edited January 2018
    Albatroes said:
    So I guess now we're living in a world where Ubisoft looks good.....so this is what hell is....
    In fairness to Ubisoft, a company which I normally dislike, they have done a few remarkable things recently.

    Mario + Rabbids is amazing.

    Assassin's Creed Origins, though flawed in some regards, surpassed expectations.

    Rainbow Six Siege was miraculously turned around from a flop to a smash success. They are at least attempting to do the same with The Division and For Honor, though whether it is too little too late remains to be seen. If this was EA, these titles would be scrapped or put into maintenance/cash shop updates only mode and the developers dissolved.
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  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    This is really nothing new... Online casinos have been doing things like this for years... You play and win shit for some time so you get bored and click away, looking at other windows, maybe launch netflix.... Next couple of clicks some small trickle of wins roll in to get you back in to the "game".

    but

    This is just... well... The death of any point to any PvP game they will make ever... If i want a sense of being a god a put the AI on easy and go to town. I do not want to have that sense by farming people that the game feed me... nor do i like to be fed to others (well outside of how it usually goes when i play shooters. =P ) I have no doubt this shit will be snuck in at some point but the longer we can keep it out the better.

    Adaption is good but creating a system that is just a continual feed-loop is... well... Bad.

    This have been a good conversation

  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    The inevitable march towards more and more aggressive and deceptive monetization practices isn't surprising anymore.
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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    MadFrenchie said:
    The inevitable march towards more and more aggressive and deceptive monetization practices isn't surprising anymore.
    well at least in one area of gaming anyway

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  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    SEANMCAD said:
    MadFrenchie said:
    The inevitable march towards more and more aggressive and deceptive monetization practices isn't surprising anymore.
    well at least in one area of gaming anyway
    Nah it is pretty much everywhere... and not just in gaming... 

    This have been a good conversation

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    tawess said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    MadFrenchie said:
    The inevitable march towards more and more aggressive and deceptive monetization practices isn't surprising anymore.
    well at least in one area of gaming anyway
    Nah it is pretty much everywhere... and not just in gaming... 
    I play video games every week and i have NEVER experienced a loot box.

    They are not 'everywhere' its just people have been programmed to think only AAA games are games

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    SEANMCAD said:
    tawess said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    MadFrenchie said:
    The inevitable march towards more and more aggressive and deceptive monetization practices isn't surprising anymore.
    well at least in one area of gaming anyway
    Nah it is pretty much everywhere... and not just in gaming... 
    I play video games every week and i have NEVER experienced a loot box.

    They are not 'everywhere' its just people have been programmed to think only AAA games are games
    There is an old saying...

    Never say Never
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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited January 2018
    laserit said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    tawess said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    The inevitable march towards more and more aggressive and deceptive monetization practices isn't surprising anymore.
    well at least in one area of gaming anyway
    Nah it is pretty much everywhere... and not just in gaming... 
    I play video games every week and i have NEVER experienced a loot box.

    They are not 'everywhere' its just people have been programmed to think only AAA games are games
    There is an old saying...

    Never say Never
    no I am expressing the past.

    I have in fact, never experience a loot box, others have.
    interesting that the course of action is to be combative about the options

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  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    SEANMCAD said:

    I play video games every week and i have NEVER experienced a loot box.

    They are not 'everywhere' its just people have been programmed to think only AAA games are games
    Good for you... Entirely irrelevant to what i said... But good for you. Especially as i can show you thousands of games that are designed THE... EXACT... OPPOSITE... Then i could go on to show you the other parts of of society where things slowly but surely becomes not about the customer but how much can be squeezed out of said customer... And it is sad to see where and why the advances are made. 

    But yes... Small and medium sized indie developers do live on their players good will and can not afford to chance it. But once they make it big they tend to go another round and add just that... Hi pubg and Angry Birds... 
    laseritValdheim

    This have been a good conversation

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