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EVE Online - Fun?
Currybullen
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So I've heard a lot of good things about EVE Online, and I even consider starting playing it. But I am a little concerned about the gameplay in the early stage of the game. I've heard many people say that you have to train your skills for like one year before it becomes any fun. My question is, if I start playing today, will I be able to get 3 or 5 hours of daily action every day from the game without having to train my skill for weeks, months or even years? Is it as fun as any other MMORPG to play 10 hours straight on a weekend if you have the time?
Thanks on advance,
Currybullen.
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Eve is a slow paced game. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of it. You can train low level skills really fast. Usually to about level 3. That will give you a decent amount of things to do.
I do suggest you have other things to do while you play though. I used to row while I played.
Same as all the rest but slower gameplay.
More chatroom action to compensate.
The rewards and upgrades are well spaced and you progress in power at the usual kind of pace. The game works well either solo or teamed.
There isn't very much to explore in this game. A lot of empty space mainly. Nice spacescape backdrops but not really a game for virtual tourists.
If you start today there will always be players vastly more powerful than you in the game. Personally I always found plenty of things to do, but I'm easily pleased.
As with the poster above this game is not enough to take up your entire attention.
Have the TV on also, or play Civ on another PC or chat with Mrs Computer Nerd while you play.
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Don't get me wrong, I like EVE, but the pace is just so damn slow it's mind numbing at times...
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EVE is ultimately what you make of it. It doesn't hold your hand through content, and has very little linear progression. The game is almost completely player driven, which yes the vets will have more abilities than you. That said, the benefits of a rank5 compared to rank 4 skill is minimal..which means you don't have to have all weapon skills to rank 5 to compete with the vets.
EVE is a love it or hate it game...I've found very few people that fall inbetween. I no longer play because it was too addictive for me, but it is by far the deepest MMO on the market. Give it a try, (there's a two-week trial around somewhere) and decide for yourself.
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Eve is a slow paced game. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of it. You can train low level skills really fast. Usually to about level 3. That will give you a decent amount of things to do.
I do suggest you have other things to do while you play though. I used to row while I played.
Lol you can go on a rowing machine while playing eve? I think I might have to give it another go, i miss the mmo genre but my fitness schedule has left me unable to devote the time to play them.
I just recently started playing EVE. It's ok. It's not th greates MMO out there and I have to agree about having the TV on when you play. When you have to make 10 jumps to get somewhere it takes forever... and ever.
Downsides include 15 days to train frigate 5 <--- way too much.
The realtime training is the worm in the apple and also the hook. It reaks of trying to force people to subscribe longer. I'm all for realtime training, but they went overboard with the times. And sure you can reduce the time it takes to train skills, by training other skills to raise your stats. The catch 22 is it takes a good while to train all the stats to reduce the time to train skills, and the stat increases don't really have that big of an effect on training time reduction. What's a 2 day reduction on a 14 day skill?
What I wanna know is when will company's realize that instead of trying so hard to develop timesinks and grinds to keep people subscribing, they could just focus and pure fun, longevity, and loads of new stuff to do all the time, that people will stay and play.
The sooner this "power-gamers gotta be like a 2nd job to be a good MMO" fad goes away, the better. I want fun back in my video games, not micromanagment and boring 100 man raids.
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Well you figure that sometimes it takes 20 to 40 minutes to get from a base in one sector to a base in another sector. All you do is put it on autopilot. Or if you have a big ship you can set it to mining for hours easily.
Tho it's so very, very, very, very, slow.
I read a few books while playing the trial.
Tho it's worth it after a very, very, very, very, long time.
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It's quite possible to play the game without a year of training skills, though depending on your definition of 'action' getting 3-5 hours of action per day would probably require playing 20 hours a day. EVE involves a lot of time where you don't do anything that requires any real input from the player, like travelling, farming for money (mining, ratting, missioning, or hauling), or flying around to put components you've bought/made into ships. PVP is not a matter of going and finding a battle, or even getting involved in a larger organization, you'll spend far more time looking for a fight than participating in one unless you want to be on the bad end of a very 1-sided fight.
The fanboys will try to paint any dislike of the game as some kind of personal failure, that anyone who doesn't like spending hours with basically a screensaver going is defective in some way, but it's pretty clear who the defective ones are. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they enjoy what they do for most of their time in-game, it's always 'looking beyond' what you spend your time on to the goals of large player corporations or achieving arbitrary goals (getting to X skill, X ship, etc.).
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Others find it boring.
Personally I fall into the "it's boring" crowd.
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I'm an EVE fanbois (guilty as charged!) with a 15 mil sp char. I think nearly all the points are valid, I have had people in my corp leave EVE after the first month due to the pace of progression. I'm sure the reason that many of us "fanbois" haven't jumped in is because the game isn't being critizied for being inferior or bug ridden (ala SWG!). But it is merely people that don't like the game and its method of play voicing thier displeasure, and that is a totaly legitamite reason not to play.
Though travel can be sped up alot by using intajump BMs I prefer to put my feet up and have a beer whilst listening to music (one reason I prefer EVE). Unless I'm at war or traveling through a piracy hotspot.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Thanks for all the replies.
Since the game is so slow-paced, should I then consider subscribing to EVE and another, more fast-paced MMORPG at the same time?
Actually, you don't come close to qualifying as a fanboy, liking a game just makes you a fan of it. To be a fanboy, you have to trancend common sesne and a belief that people can possibly have different tastes in a game. "That is a totally legitimate reason not to play" is not the kind of phrase that a true fanboy can utter with a straight face, you don't even imply that people are subhuman scum for not liking the game.
I'm getting Guild Wars and GW:Factions for my girlfriend (honest!) next month, so if you have the cash to spare it's a good idea. Also you can run EVE in windows mode and play something else or browse the net.
So to be a real fanbois I'd have to of accused anyone who doesn't like EVE of being a scum sucking excremental smear upon the underpants of society? I couldn't say that with a straight face.................unless your name was John Smedley and that's a whole different place we don't want to go!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
If you find yourself in that situation because you have 15 jump journeys, make instajump bookmarks for your routes and actually play the game instead of being lazy, not making bookmarks, flying on autopilot through high security space and then blaming the game for your laziness.
Get out of high sec empire space and go to low sec or 0.0 space. If you try to pull the stunt of playing AFK there, you will die. If you go to low sec space, you actually have to play the game, and you have to be on your toes at all times to stay alive. And you'll find plenty of action in low sec space, if that's what you're looking for.
EVE is not a game of instant gratification. It's also not a game meant to be played solo. If you like fast paced games that you can really get along well in while not belonging to a larger group, you won't like EVE. EVE isn't for everyone, but it's the deepest MMO out there if you are interested in living in a player-driven virtual world.