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1050ti, or how does a 570 cost as much as a 1070. amd1600 box

AlumicardAlumicard Member UncommonPosts: 388
edited February 2018 in Hardware
Im building a box for a friend, got the 1600+mb(oc able)+ram+psu sorted but the gfx? A 1050ti is €150, a 1060 jumps to 400. Even a "cheap" AMD is 300. Any idea what graphic card to go for ?

edit: sure the answer is titan but I kind of aim for a mid tier card in the €200 region. I'd go 1400 but 50 bucks wont do much in th gfx part.

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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,481
    Explanation probably resides in the thread about crypto-currency miners causing gpu prices to go through the roof.   Glad I go a newer one  months ago.  Bad time for it, or so I hear.

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • AlumicardAlumicard Member UncommonPosts: 388
    edited February 2018
    Explanation probably resides in the thread about crypto-currency miners causing gpu prices to go through the roof.   Glad I go a newer one  months ago.  Bad time for it, or so I hear.
    I guess Im looking for a card that miners wont touch. Given that any gpu is bull for BTC (ASICs getting t/Hashes for a fraction of gpu cost)and eth needs 4gb+ I though 1060 3gb but, thats still 350 for whatever reason
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    The problem is cryptocurrency miners buying all of the GPUs.  People with more money than sense have decided that the market value of a cryptocurrency called Ethereum should be worth more than all of the Canadian currency in circulation.  Ethereum is almost exclusively mined using GPUs, and for such a valuable GPU, spending literally billions of dollars buying GPUs in order to use them for Ethereum mining is profitable.

    AMD GPUs handle Ethereum mining better than Nvidia, so miners bid up the price of AMD GPUs more so than Nvidia.  The Radeon RX 570 that you mention is actually better at it than a GeForce GTX 1080, in spite of only being perhaps half as fast at games.

    If you really want to build a gaming rig today, you just have to accept that you're going to have to overpay for the GPU unless you can get it from some source inaccessible to miners who care more about buying up GPUs than you do.  For example, Micro Center will sell you one GPU at a more reasonable price in person if you also buy some other components there.

    Even if you're willing to overpay for the GPU, you'll tend to have to overpay more for an AMD GPU than for Nvidia because that's what the miners want.  Lower end discrete GPUs with only 2 GB of video memory may be an exception, as they can't do Ethereum mining.
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    edited February 2018
    All good graphic cards are now really expensive because cryptocurrency miners are buying more than the manufacturers can produce.

    Either buy that GTX 1050 Ti, or look for some used graphic card that's as cheap as possible to use for some time until there are better graphic cards available at reasonable prices.
     
  • AlumicardAlumicard Member UncommonPosts: 388
    edited February 2018
    Quizzical said:
    The problem is cryptocurrency miners buying all of the GPUs.  People with more money than sense have decided that the market value of a cryptocurrency called Ethereum should be worth more than all of the Canadian currency in circulation.  Ethereum is almost exclusively mined using GPUs, and for such a valuable GPU, spending literally billions of dollars buying GPUs in order to use them for Ethereum mining is profitable.

    AMD GPUs handle Ethereum mining better than Nvidia, so miners bid up the price of AMD GPUs more so than Nvidia.  The Radeon RX 570 that you mention is actually better at it than a GeForce GTX 1080, in spite of only being perhaps half as fast at games.

    If you really want to build a gaming rig today, you just have to accept that you're going to have to overpay for the GPU unless you can get it from some source inaccessible to miners who care more about buying up GPUs than you do.  For example, Micro Center will sell you one GPU at a more reasonable price in person if you also buy some other components there.

    Even if you're willing to overpay for the GPU, you'll tend to have to overpay more for an AMD GPU than for Nvidia because that's what the miners want.  Lower end discrete GPUs with only 2 GB of video memory may be an exception, as they can't do Ethereum mining.
    Atm Eth mining is at 4gb. Anything below that is like a titan x vs an AMD 290. wasted potential. Especially given the overall 30% value cut,

    *Either Lloyds or China blocking all exchanges

    edit. got to mention the Russian who bought 2! power plants to sell to crypto farms. Imho 10 years to late.
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