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Imagine a world you can live in forever !
delete5230
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This is how I see it:
Several factors would need to come to play.
The first is obvious, a large world, I'm talking about huge, but that's not everything...... After this designers would have to be masters of creativity far far beyond being programmers. A team of developers that goes beyond pixels and animation. Someone that can feel human emotion and capabilities.
To really live in a full world it would be designed to make the player feel "all different levels of danger". But it goes beyond that by skillful planning of giving the player the choice of when, where and how often as he wishes. A good designer would have to offer safe havens and a place to relax much like a Caveman retreats to his cave after the hunt, or as simple as two children playing outside and run inside from the rain. A warm and fuzzy. This safe haven or retreat would have to be filled with "meaningful offtakes" from adventuring like deep crafting or a true social hub much like Stormwind Castle. Sure some mmorpgs have this to an extent. But it's short, rushed, and unnatural..... "Unnatural" is the key word here.
Lets not forget, their are so many different types of people that play mmorpg's. I'll not belittle anyone by naming them all. Infact no one can....... Some of us don't know until we see it. It's a feel thing. But a good developer would have to tap into such a feel thing. Like different levels of stress then relaxed, kind of like real life. Difference being fantasy !
Wouldn't it be nice to have an mmorpg where you can escape everything ?
You don't have to be a basement dweller, but a person that has a full life outside a video game with a means of retreat for leisure as long as your responsible.
What happened ?....... Back in 2004, I expected this by 2018, a WORLD-TO-LIVE-IN !!
Between 1999 and 2004 was as close as we ever got. Vanguard was to be the next step but failed.
Never has this been attempted again !
Several factors would need to come to play.
The first is obvious, a large world, I'm talking about huge, but that's not everything...... After this designers would have to be masters of creativity far far beyond being programmers. A team of developers that goes beyond pixels and animation. Someone that can feel human emotion and capabilities.
To really live in a full world it would be designed to make the player feel "all different levels of danger". But it goes beyond that by skillful planning of giving the player the choice of when, where and how often as he wishes. A good designer would have to offer safe havens and a place to relax much like a Caveman retreats to his cave after the hunt, or as simple as two children playing outside and run inside from the rain. A warm and fuzzy. This safe haven or retreat would have to be filled with "meaningful offtakes" from adventuring like deep crafting or a true social hub much like Stormwind Castle. Sure some mmorpgs have this to an extent. But it's short, rushed, and unnatural..... "Unnatural" is the key word here.
Lets not forget, their are so many different types of people that play mmorpg's. I'll not belittle anyone by naming them all. Infact no one can....... Some of us don't know until we see it. It's a feel thing. But a good developer would have to tap into such a feel thing. Like different levels of stress then relaxed, kind of like real life. Difference being fantasy !
Wouldn't it be nice to have an mmorpg where you can escape everything ?
You don't have to be a basement dweller, but a person that has a full life outside a video game with a means of retreat for leisure as long as your responsible.
What happened ?....... Back in 2004, I expected this by 2018, a WORLD-TO-LIVE-IN !!
Between 1999 and 2004 was as close as we ever got. Vanguard was to be the next step but failed.
Never has this been attempted again !
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The idea of "virtual worlds" is great as far as a gaming world goes. .Look at what they wanted to do with UO. I still wish for that type of environment to play in.
I do not want a "second life" though.
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I totally with you on this.
Part of what I was trying to get across is extremely smart development.
Not a life sim, or a hard core like Pantheon, but something for "everyone", all-in-one. Play hard with a chosen Guild every night or log in to socialize three times a week and everything in between.
Much like life..........You have lazy, serious, fun, depressed adventurous and name about two hundred others.
Like you need devs to lead the way, too much freedom, people are so stupid.
Your hot, is that really you ?
Nop, just too lazy to make a real account.
Tell that to the 6 million World of Warcraft players..... It would be Way lot more if it were the same yet new and a little different.
I'll not fall into your crap on this
Besides, in a digital world you could live in you'd have to have socialization, and we all know how well that goes online. Plus, you'd have to have <gasp> sex and that'll never happen in the Western world. I mean built in and planned for sex, not the lame cyber stuff that goes on.
Having kids on-line game
Lets not get carried away !
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I have always loved the idea of a thempark in a sandbox sandwich. You do your themepark levelling in a inner set of city states, then go out into the wilderness for your sandbox. But I do realise its an enormous ask.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Something where we can wear proper roleplaying gear and go round calling each other ma'am, sir and if I really don't like you sirrah. You just can't do that in EVE.
They already know what books and content you buy. So sick an algorithm on those books to generate similar themes, quests, and plot hooks to what you read.
Then sick another algorithm at modifying quest locations to get similar/complementary people in the same areas.
Then use Amazon's knowledge at making pennies of revenue on dollars of risk...
Sounds pretty hellish but someday might have feasibility with the "magic of AI” that we've been promised for the past few decades. Along with the GBs of data everyone has been collecting on you.
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But alas, it is yet another spin on his usual topic.
Even broken records stop eventually... but with the magic of the internet, it can go on and on and on...
I don't think it "should" be a nightmare, however by todays standards it would be.
I understand many here don't like World of Warcraft, but you would have to admit this is a good baseline for a world you can live in....... Back in 2004 !!
All it would take is expanding beyond. It's 2018 !!
More extremely easy content, more medium content, more extremely hard content where the player could pick and choose.
People hate quest, they don't like collect 10 skins. Well how about large scale natural adventures where you need to journey far far away a-top a mountain into dangerous territory. A mountain so brutal very few teams couldn't make it past the base. Something so hard a YouTube walkthrough wouldn't help. It's 2018, you would think player scaling would have advanced. To do an adventure such as this it wouldn't matter what level you are, dangerous territory would be dangerous. All this naturally where the player wouldn't notice the scaling (it's done in the back round). Then have easy content for adventurous city dwellers too.....Use your imagination like creative developers should be doing.
I deeper yet less aggravating crafting system where the player has to manipulate the forge for better items. Not just collect more and unique items to grind and call it a day. In order for crafting to be meaningful the fighting content needs to be harder or else why craft at all.
Capital Cities, constant ever changing events like carnivals and fireworks to hold city dwellers attention, heck even early WoW had this. This is where your $15 a month should go. A player never has to pick up a weapon. Several second generation mmorpg's almost had it right.
Important:
This isn't a topic of my fantasy's where I give fictional ideas !!
It's where we should be in 2018 !!!!!
I forgot to mention, there is already world where you can live forever its called World History. So instead we could just do something that will make us famous for all time.