yup , count me in , miss creating new and weird (stupid) builds , teleporting around just for fun , doing group events , or just standing around atlas checking customes and what not
You could spend hours creating fun looking characters.
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
CoH was lagging its player numbers, but also Blade & Soul and Guild Wars coming out 2012, NCsoft was clearing the decks of internal competition.
Real shame, in a league of its own as best supers MMORPG.
I think it's more about "just hold on the things that give us more money" and "that failed to achiev the sucess we aimed".
They shut down MxM, they don't have intern competition for that.
I agree, it was about flagging numbers first and foremost. But they were launching two new MMOs that year, how many can one stable have before they are seen as competing with one another?
They were still in the black when they decided to shut it down. But they were making room for something that had a much higher roi.
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
I had such fond memories of CoH/V. I remember all the friends that I made in the game, all the various character concepts that I was able to come up with, and the fun that came with it. I still think about all the good times that I had playing this game even as the years continue onward.
Looking at the video from the OP reminded me of another video from years back that I had saw on YouTube:
My best memories of City of Heroes were the people I met and grouped with. Random people that I met who had concepts for their characters and were serious about roleplaying. This provided so much content to roleplay.
The groups that even after so many deaths with huge debt were willing to still complete the mission. I recall a task force that dwindled down to just three by the last boss but we finished even though it took us 30 -40 minutes to take the last boss down because we had insufficient DPS.
I know it is dumb to say that players are not like that any more but I sincerely think people who play nowadays have changed about how they view games and back then it seemed people were more loyal even to total strangers. They were willing to take the debt and play to complete something they started.
I think it was about a year or so before it shut down, kind of like a last ditch effort to keep it going.
Ah! Here it is from Wikipedia: "On June 20, 2011, Paragon Studios announced that they were going to switch to a hybrid subscription model called City of Heroes: Freedom, adding in a free-to-play game model."
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
I miss it too. I am still FB friends with some of the people I played with.
"Never met a pack of humans that were any different. Look at the idiots that get elected every couple of years. You really consider those guys more mature than us? The only difference between us and them is, when they gank some noobs and take their stuff, the noobs actually die." - Madimorga
It did for awhile before the closure. F2P characters could level to 50, but not access the Paragon system. I believe it was a last ditch effort by NCSoft to increase the level of profits from the game to a point where they could justify continued investment in it.
If so, the subsequent closure of the game would suggest that the increase in revenue from the change in marketing model ultimately fell short of what was hoped for.
Be that as it may, I still miss the game a great deal myself, but not to the point where it cripples my enjoyment of other titles. It is best to not let what one has lost in the past blind one to what can be found now, or in the future.
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You could spend hours creating fun looking characters.
Epic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
They were still in the black when they decided to shut it down. But they were making room for something that had a much higher roi.
Epic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
And cool things like knockback. Ragdoll was nice when that was added. All the cool powers.
Epic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
I hope it comes out.
Epic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Looking at the video from the OP reminded me of another video from years back that I had saw on YouTube:
The groups that even after so many deaths with huge debt were willing to still complete the mission. I recall a task force that dwindled down to just three by the last boss but we finished even though it took us 30 -40 minutes to take the last boss down because we had insufficient DPS.
I know it is dumb to say that players are not like that any more but I sincerely think people who play nowadays have changed about how they view games and back then it seemed people were more loyal even to total strangers. They were willing to take the debt and play to complete something they started.
Ah! Here it is from Wikipedia:
"On June 20, 2011, Paragon Studios announced that they were going to switch to a hybrid subscription model called City of Heroes: Freedom, adding in a free-to-play game model."
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
"Never met a pack of humans that were any different. Look at the idiots that get elected every couple of years. You really consider those guys more mature than us? The only difference between us and them is, when they gank some noobs and take their stuff, the noobs actually die." - Madimorga
As for the community, like that of most MMOs it got replaced by Twiiter, so a big win there.
If so, the subsequent closure of the game would suggest that the increase in revenue from the change in marketing model ultimately fell short of what was hoped for.
Be that as it may, I still miss the game a great deal myself, but not to the point where it cripples my enjoyment of other titles. It is best to not let what one has lost in the past blind one to what can be found now, or in the future.