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AMD Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 2600X Reviewed - Next Gen Zen - MMORPG.com
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AMD Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 2600X Reviewed - Next Gen Zen - MMORPG.com
The launch of Zen in 2017 shook the PC building world. After massive anticipation, AMD’s latest CPU platform redefined expectation for core count and performance per dollar, reigniting progress in a processing space that had begun to stagnate. This year, they hope to do the same with launch of the R5 2600X and R7 2700X. Did they succeed? We’re here with the answer in our official review.
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1. if i need a CPU for a server that i will run a ton of VMs on it than AMD just makes more sense.
2. if i am streaming then i need cores not speed, so the point goes to AMD again
however if i just want to play games and work on apps that do not require 8 cores then i will go Intel any day and twice on friday for the compatibility / stability / support and even price in this case... intel is $299 for the i7-8700k and AMD R7 2700X is $329 (at the local microcenter).
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For multi tasking, there is always 2011 socket CPU's or the newer 2066 from Intel. While this AMD is good enough to multi tasking , I will always choose Intel's 2011/2066 .
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i run i7-3820 on one of my PCs with GTX 1070 and it plays every game i played without any issues.. so yes.. great question
no K just means you cant overclock it. doesnt mean u cant use it like any other cpu out there. most of the apps and games are single thread so more cores will not give u better performance. so enjoy your cpu till it dies or you are forced to upgrade due to other failures (i.e. memory / motherboard .. etc).
again... there has to be a reason why u need those cores.. just because u can is a crap answer .. and no the games will not run faster.. and windows will run just like on any other cpu... again.. unless u are a streamer or 3d renderer .. or some other specific reason like VMs .. U DO NOT NEED 8 CORES...
But more importantly, I value having spare resources. If you go with a 7600K and play AC:Origins with a 1080ti, the 7600k will spit blood and enter a coma in a city after running on 100% on all its 4 threads. Not long ago in 2017, people would say that those 4 threads is all you need for games. Yet AC:O happily uses 8+ with ease - and guess what the next gen games will do? The same.
Having spare resources is very important to me. It guarantees that if your antivirus or OS decides to do stuff while you game, you won't notice it. Running your 8GB of RAM full and your i5 at full throttle is not a pleasing experience for me, always knowing that the game took all I have.
But, everyone to themselves.
Besides that, like i said before many times. If there is a legitimate reason for overclocking .. for more processing power for more flexibility and you can afford it, than go for it. Noone has to right to tell you how to spend your money. But buying into the PR crap that both Intel and AMD and every other manufacturer of hardware and software ("cough" microsoft "cough") is just dumb. Do your research, do your planning and decide what you need for now and for the future with the price inmind and build one or buy one.
I have a server at home that still runs i7-950 with 32 gigs ram and 16 TB space and it hosts 3 VMs inside the Server 2012 R2 (DNS, Firewall, File Server) and I have no issues with it whats so ever.
So its not the speed or the number of cores. I just know what i need and how much power i need to do it.
I ordered it for a plan I have to make a Windows gaming VM and Plex/NAS pairing through Unraid. Passthrough my GTX 1080, 16 GB for the gaming VM, then another 16 for the NAS/Plex server.
Ryzen is perfect for this because of it's 8 cores, unlike Coffee Lake's 6. I can give my Gaming VM 6 cores, plex/NAS 2. Transcoding at 1080p is going to be a breeze.
Why get a NAS when you can essentially turn your entire network into a huge hardware parity with Ryzen?! Go AMD!
Edit: I think the people in this discussion do not really understand the larger picture with this processor. You can go way beyond just a normal gaming PC with 8 cores at your disposal, and if you think 8 cores should only be for your gaming rig, then you're REALLY missing the point of gaming on a PC - it really should be used for more than just that. Most games don't even utilize 2-4, much less 6-8 cores.
Is this unoptimized? I don't know, and I'll tell you why:
- for YEARS I have used an FX8350, and I always hoped for games to finally use all the damn cores I had, as it would bottleneck my cards in almost each game I played, especially in MMOs like WoW and Wildstar that required single core power. Now that age has come and games use pretty much all cores you have, and while my FX8350 is no longer in my gaming PC, I remember the frustration of having to rely on just one core very well. So it's what many gamers asked all along.
- we are powerless when it comes to how games run. For example, you have a PC, you're happy with it. A new game is released and you want to play it. It requires more CPU/GPU power than you have, in fact, it might just be horribly unoptimized.
So what are your choices?
1. deal with the shitty game experience and play at 20 fps, with stuttering and so on, or whatever might happen
2. cry on the dev's forums to "fix the game". Never seen it have any results. I cried about WoW since about 2013 to 2017. Not a single improvement. Today WoW is still relying on that ONE core to push data to the GPU.
3. get a better PC that runs the game accordingly
So there ya go. Some games might indeed be horribly unoptimized. Still incredibly irrelevant if all you want is to just play them, as you won't suddenly convince Ubisoft to make AC:O lighter on resources. Hell, people with old PhenomII CPUs have been crying since the game released in those forums for a patch so they can play without SSE4.1.
No patch to this day. It's either upgrade or don't play.
So go ahead and enjoy Intel, but just so you know, AMD is now just as viable as Intel when it comes to gaming.
There are legitimate needs for more cores and faster CPUs... but as it stands right now for me I will use Intels i have.
About the meltdown/spectre issues.. took YEARS to figure that out .. who knows whats in the AMD code and just so we are clear... this issue not only effects Intel but also ARM and AMD (i.e. Spectre-NG). Forget about the fact that you have to penetrate the system to even have a chance to use the vulnerability.
We'd love to see the FPS for cpu intensive/popular mmo's like GW2 and other games, like performance in dense cities, and pvp heavy game modes like WvW. Sure some games are core limited but new cpus still improve those cores.