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Extinction - Silithus at the Moment the Sword of Sargeras Hit Azeroth - World of Warcraft Videos - M

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imageExtinction - Silithus at the Moment the Sword of Sargeras Hit Azeroth - World of Warcraft Videos - MMORPG.com

Ivan Kuzkin is one of the more prolific and talented World of Warcraft machinima content creators. In a newly published video called Extinction, he shows Silithus in the moments just before the Sword of Sargeras plunged into Azeroth and the repercussions of its impact afterwards.

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  • 3dom3dom Member RarePosts: 889
    > Check it out and let us know what you think!

    I think $15/month is too much for a game which updates once in two years.
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    3dom said:
    > Check it out and let us know what you think!

    I think $15/month is too much for a game which updates once in two years.
    What a happy little ray of sunshine you are.  :|

    Have a good weekend.
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  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094
    Great video to be sure.

    Looks like a lot of work went into it.


    3dom said:

    > Check it out and let us know what you think!



    I think $15/month is too much for a game which updates once in two years.



    They'll never live that down. Though it's good that people won't let them.
    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
  • TintagilTintagil Member UncommonPosts: 214
    Very impressive!
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  • brkykmszbrkykmsz Member CommonPosts: 2
    edited May 2018

    3dom said:

    > Check it out and let us know what you think!



    I think $15/month is too much for a game which updates once in two years.



    Which gets an *expansion* once in two years. And regular updates (expanding the expansion further) once every two or three months during the first year of the expansion.
    Sinsai
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    One word: Feels
    SBFord[Deleted User]JamesGoblinGameolioDan
  • btdtbtdt Member RarePosts: 523
    Torval said:
    3dom said:
    > Check it out and let us know what you think!

    I think $15/month is too much for a game which updates once in two years.
    It is but the alternative of where F2P and all the cosmetic cash shop bullshit now makes that $15/mo palatable. It took the rest of the industry taking an even lower road to drive that home for me.

    To make up for it. I skip eating out for lunch once or twice a month and make my own.
    It's really an interesting question... just where does one's subscription go?

    Some believe it's for the content updates, some believe it's to cover the costs of running the servers, some believe it's for other infrastructure costs...

    However, if it cost more to do stuff today than it did in 2004, then how come the subscription fee has never changed?  The cost of the expansions have been going up but not the subscriptions.  The total subscriber base month to month is far lower than it has been in years, and yet the subscription remains the same.  Then you have all their other games that share the same infrastructure that have no subscription fee associated with them.

    Their expansions don't cost less than other game expansions, so you are not saving money by having a subscription tacked onto it.  You have other games that don't have subscriptions which run their servers and have support staff.  How is it that WoW requires a subscription to do the same?  If it is indeed for content updates, then if you add in that cost to the expansion cost (that claimed to include all those said content updates when you bought it), it is clearly a far far more expensive expansion than you initially realized.  Is it really cheaper than DLCs?  Or are you really paying more because whether or not there is any new content, you have to pay to play?

    Blizzard charges you for the game, charges you to play the game, and has a cash shop on top of all that.  One has to wonder just what the subscription fee is really being used for, because it clearly can't be what we suspect it's used for because the fee has never gone up.  It may be nothing but pure profit.  That the game doesn't require a subscription at all, that the money made off sales and cash shop cover their costs in it's entirety... like with other games.

    Nephethjimmywolf
  • CryolitycalCryolitycal Member UncommonPosts: 205

    3dom said:

    > Check it out and let us know what you think!



    I think $15/month is too much for a game which updates once in two years.



    The game is essentially free if you play it somewhat consistently. I wouldn't even bother to farm&stuff and when I left the game I was able to "fill" a bnet account (like 300EU or so) from the gold I had. That gold also purchased me Destiny 2+season pass (would have really had buyer remorse if I spent real money), Diablo 3, some HotS currency and I believe that is it.

    But if you really have to pay 15USD/month for whatever reason, I agree it's too costly. People have gave Blizzard staggering amounts of money since 2005, sub, expansions, pets, makes me somewhat sick thinking I gave them money too until they introduced the token. Without the token though, I'm almost sure they would lose half the population, so many of the people I knew were playing just because it was free.
  • joeri123joeri123 Member UncommonPosts: 247

    btdt said:


    Torval said:


    3dom said:

    > Check it out and let us know what you think!



    I think $15/month is too much for a game which updates once in two years.

    It is but the alternative of where F2P and all the cosmetic cash shop bullshit now makes that $15/mo palatable. It took the rest of the industry taking an even lower road to drive that home for me.

    To make up for it. I skip eating out for lunch once or twice a month and make my own.


    It's really an interesting question... just where does one's subscription go?

    Some believe it's for the content updates, some believe it's to cover the costs of running the servers, some believe it's for other infrastructure costs...

    However, if it cost more to do stuff today than it did in 2004, then how come the subscription fee has never changed?  The cost of the expansions have been going up but not the subscriptions.  The total subscriber base month to month is far lower than it has been in years, and yet the subscription remains the same.  Then you have all their other games that share the same infrastructure that have no subscription fee associated with them.

    Their expansions don't cost less than other game expansions, so you are not saving money by having a subscription tacked onto it.  You have other games that don't have subscriptions which run their servers and have support staff.  How is it that WoW requires a subscription to do the same?  If it is indeed for content updates, then if you add in that cost to the expansion cost (that claimed to include all those said content updates when you bought it), it is clearly a far far more expensive expansion than you initially realized.  Is it really cheaper than DLCs?  Or are you really paying more because whether or not there is any new content, you have to pay to play?

    Blizzard charges you for the game, charges you to play the game, and has a cash shop on top of all that.  One has to wonder just what the subscription fee is really being used for, because it clearly can't be what we suspect it's used for because the fee has never gone up.  It may be nothing but pure profit.  That the game doesn't require a subscription at all, that the money made off sales and cash shop cover their costs in it's entirety... like with other games.




    It's a company that aims to make a profit so why not? They get away with it since its basicly the biggest and (one of) the oldest themeparks with a huge fanbase.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited May 2018
    I'm utterly staggered by people who think 50 cents a day is "too expensive". You can't even by a 1-shot can of soda from a vending machine for that. :D It's a great bargain if it's your thing. If it's not, there are shit tons of other games, including tons of "free" ones out there. I'd warrant that many of those who play F2P games pay a lot more than $15/month for their "cosmetic" items and XP boost potions. ;)

    Add in the fact that the sub price hasn't gone up in a decade? Maybe more? Honestly, you just have to be kidding. That's not even counting, of course, the fact that you can earn enough gold in game to NEVER have to pay a sub again. It doesn't take long to make a couple hundred thousand in WoW these days and it's all done just by playing, not farming.

    I don't find the 2 years for an expansion outrageous either. When I get tired of it, I drop my sub and wait until it's interesting again. 

    Honestly...just no words. Nothing in life is free, folks, except going outside and enjoying the view from your front ya...oh wait...still have to pay for the house, the lawn guy, the water to keep the lawn green and and and and and....see what I mean? :D :D :D
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    I for one have a ton of subscriptions and so try to always keep my budget under control. Yes, if $15 a month was my only bill it would be no problem but every business that wants me to go on their rental program for services rendered can quickly add up. Compared to games or other services that don't charge a monthly fee there is a clear winner. But each to their own. Especially if it's a deductible business expense.

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  • kabitoshinkabitoshin Member UncommonPosts: 854
    That was damn impressive, kinda want to play again but I'm so behind I didn't even finish Suromar. I'd probably play again if I had a good guild.
    SBFord
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited May 2018
    I for one have a ton of subscriptions and so try to always keep my budget under control. Yes, if $15 a month was my only bill it would be no problem but every business that wants me to go on their rental program for services rendered can quickly add up. Compared to games or other services that don't charge a monthly fee there is a clear winner. But each to their own. Especially if it's a deductible business expense.
    Not my only bill, but I don't drink, smoke or go out to dinner much and I go to the movies maybe 1x a month etc. Bills are always first, fun times second. I choose to put my entertainment dollars into WoW most of the time, though, as now, not all the time. Then it's just a question of where to spend that $15 -- one movie ticket or 3 gallons of gas. Such a conundrum. :D
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671

    DMKano said:

    I have no idea what's happening - but it was cool.

    Sorry not a lore guy.



    Lol for some reason what you said and this video just reminded me of my first times playing WoW during Cata. I was just running around in the barrens on my orc killing wolves and stuff then Deathwing randomly attacked and one shotted everyone with his breath. Fun times. Blizzard needs more stuff like that.
    [Deleted User]MrMelGibson
  • redcoreredcore Member UncommonPosts: 108
    yeah..pretty ok but what i can not digest is the camera. constantly moving...please never ever do that again.
    Tintagil
  • VantrillVantrill Member UncommonPosts: 1
    You can always get a job. Suddenly fifteen bucks every 30 days is not as hard as coming up from the basement asking mom and dad for money and smokes.
    MrMelGibsonTheScavengerjimmywolfSinsaiCryolitycal
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,039

    3dom said:

    > Check it out and let us know what you think!



    I think $15/month is too much for a game which updates once in two years.



    If $15 a month means I will not be running into you in game. Well, money well spent.
    Nepheth[Deleted User]jimmywolfSinsai
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,039
    Blizzard always has good videos. This one was especially good.
    SBFordOctagon7711
  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Classic WoW a bunch of people are gonna complain they could (can) play for free on private servers, so why spend 15 dollars to play classic wow from blizzard?

    If people complain of paying monthly in games (but spend 100s/1000s on cash shops or jpeg images), they'll definitely complain about blizzard charging for classic wow and instead play on free servers lol

    DOWN WITH THE MAN
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  • ArskaaaArskaaa Member RarePosts: 1,265
    u can buy least 2 60$ AAA game with 1 year wow sub. 15€ month need to go. they got already cashshop for max lvl boost with 60€ (lul). Think i spend like over 600€ for WoW with all expasions and subs. thats a lot money!
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  • NephethNepheth Member RarePosts: 473
    Arskaaa said:
    u can buy least 2 60$ AAA game with 1 year wow sub. 15€ month need to go. they got already cashshop for max lvl boost with 60€ (lul). Think i spend like over 600€ for WoW with all expasions and subs. thats a lot money!
    So you can buy 2 AAA games which takes each of them 12-15 hours to complete. Hmm let me think... 1 year WoW sub which I play constantly and get new content patches every 2 months or 2 AAA games which gives me around 30 hours of fun. Yeah, thanks for proving Suzy's point.

    FF14 is a lot more expensive then WoW with a cash shop but nobody talks about it. Eso is literally a p2p game in b2p disguise with one of the worst cash shops out there and again nobody cares. But when Blizzard sells a couple of reskinned mounts and pets in the shop people in this forum go nuts. 

    Suzy I don't know how did you manage it but I never ever saw another mmorpg forum with this much WoW/Blizzard hate even in mmorpg sub reddit which is supposed to be a very toxic place. It is sad really... 

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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,556
    Nepheth said:
    Arskaaa said:
    u can buy least 2 60$ AAA game with 1 year wow sub. 15€ month need to go. they got already cashshop for max lvl boost with 60€ (lul). Think i spend like over 600€ for WoW with all expasions and subs. thats a lot money!
    So you can buy 2 AAA games which takes each of them 12-15 hours to complete. Hmm let me think... 1 year WoW sub which I play constantly and get new content patches every 2 months or 2 AAA games which gives me around 30 hours of fun. Yeah, thanks for proving Suzy's point.

    FF14 is a lot more expensive then WoW with a cash shop but nobody talks about it. Eso is literally a p2p game in b2p disguise with one of the worst cash shops out there and again nobody cares. But when Blizzard sells a couple of reskinned mounts and pets in the shop people in this forum go nuts. 

    Suzy I don't know how did you manage it but I never ever saw another mmorpg forum with this much WoW/Blizzard hate even in mmorpg sub reddit which is supposed to be a very toxic place. It is sad really... 

    WoW is a 12+ year old game that still charges the same sub price it did when it launched along with full game price for expansions. ESO is 4 years old and FFXIV is 5 years old. I'm sure when ESO and FFXIV hit that 12 year mark people will feel the same way they do about WoW so let your heart not be troubled.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    BruceYee said:

    WoW is a 12+ year old game that still charges the same sub price it did when it launched along with full game price for expansions. ESO is 4 years old and FFXIV is 5 years old. I'm sure when ESO and FFXIV hit that 12 year mark people will feel the same way they do about WoW so let your heart not be troubled.
    Pfft...no rise in sub price for 14 years? I'd say that's pretty decent. And...$15/month? I mean...really? You can see ONE movie for that price, buy a pack and a half of cigarettes and get a Big Mac meal --- all of which are one-time deals. For $15 / month, you can play 24x7 if you want. What other entertainment medium offers that type of bargain? LOL

    Honestly, you don't like the sub price, you should neither play nor kvetch about sub prices for a game you're obviously NOT playing while in a thread that has ZERO to do with sub prices because it's about a fan-made video. * eye roll *
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    SBFord said:
    I for one have a ton of subscriptions and so try to always keep my budget under control. Yes, if $15 a month was my only bill it would be no problem but every business that wants me to go on their rental program for services rendered can quickly add up. Compared to games or other services that don't charge a monthly fee there is a clear winner. But each to their own. Especially if it's a deductible business expense.
    Not my only bill, but I don't drink, smoke or go out to dinner much and I go to the movies maybe 1x a month etc. Bills are always first, fun times second. I choose to put my entertainment dollars into WoW most of the time, though, as now, not all the time. Then it's just a question of where to spend that $15 -- one movie ticket or 3 gallons of gas. Such a conundrum. :D
    Yeah, I usually have no problem finding places to spend my money as I play a lot of games.  My problem is often how not to spend that $15.  And of course there's a big difference between necessities and entertainment.  So it's more a problem of WoW expansion vs ESO expansion vs XYZ MMOs founders packages vs RPGs DLC content vs....  and I dropped my Playstation and Xbox a long time ago or it would be what games and how much money to spend on them X3.  :smile:

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    BruceYee said:
    Nepheth said:
    Arskaaa said:
    u can buy least 2 60$ AAA game with 1 year wow sub. 15€ month need to go. they got already cashshop for max lvl boost with 60€ (lul). Think i spend like over 600€ for WoW with all expasions and subs. thats a lot money!
    So you can buy 2 AAA games which takes each of them 12-15 hours to complete. Hmm let me think... 1 year WoW sub which I play constantly and get new content patches every 2 months or 2 AAA games which gives me around 30 hours of fun. Yeah, thanks for proving Suzy's point.

    FF14 is a lot more expensive then WoW with a cash shop but nobody talks about it. Eso is literally a p2p game in b2p disguise with one of the worst cash shops out there and again nobody cares. But when Blizzard sells a couple of reskinned mounts and pets in the shop people in this forum go nuts. 

    Suzy I don't know how did you manage it but I never ever saw another mmorpg forum with this much WoW/Blizzard hate even in mmorpg sub reddit which is supposed to be a very toxic place. It is sad really... 

    WoW is a 12+ year old game that still charges the same sub price it did when it launched along with full game price for expansions. ESO is 4 years old and FFXIV is 5 years old. I'm sure when ESO and FFXIV hit that 12 year mark people will feel the same way they do about WoW so let your heart not be troubled.
    True, but it still actively being developed.  We can all argue about the efficiency of that, but you cannot argue with patch notes.

    A sub fee feels up front to the customer.  It's no frills, no hidden fees, no surprises.  You pay $15, you know exactly what you get in return: the full game experience, with the possibility to partake fully in every gameplay system in the game.

    There's something to be said about that kind of direct offer.  Customers hate hidden fees and surprise costs.
    NephethSBFordSinsaiMrMelGibson

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