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Games most in need of graphical overhaul

MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
It seems that there is always a divide between gameplay and graphics.  Invariably, people seem to want solid gameplay over modern graphics.  What is a game you'd like to see with a fresh coat of pixel goodness?

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I jumped back into Anarchy Online recently.  Yes, its from Funcom.  I can avoid them, though.  The graphics are brutal.  Blocky, with crude animations and very outdated images that hurt my poor eyes.  Still, I think there are some pretty interesting game concepts that I'd like to explore.




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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    i still play AO , such a great game ... But yes it most certainly needs an overhaul .. Im hoping with FCMKFs positive direction the past year+ , that at some point some resources may be directed to AO
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,053
    Funny, my first thought was actually AO too.So +1 to that one. Combined with a new UI I would be settled for life.

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485
    I tried AO recently again as well, it looks so outdated now I couldn't stand to play it. Which is sad because I used to like the game and I think it had some great ideas for it's time. Graphics aren't always a deciding factor for me, but with this game it almost seems they got worse over time. I thought they had a graphical overhaul planned at one time, seems that is long forgotten.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    WoW: Proper graphics not that cartoony stuff.
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  • MadCoderOneMadCoderOne Member UncommonPosts: 220
    EQ with new graphics (Pantheon?)
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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    edited May 2018
    I would love to see EQ2 have both a complete engine swap and graphics overhaul.

    The engine alone was enough for me to not play it although i enjoyed the couple hours i put into the free version, just not enough to endure that horrible engine. A visual overhaul would at least hold more people's attention for some time.

    Never going to happen but oh well.
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    Entropia Universe. 

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  • MardukkMardukk Member RarePosts: 2,222
    I tried AO a couple years ago and couldn't handle the gfx.  I'm not a gfx snob but those are not really functional.
  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,078
    PotBS could use one also better land combat.
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    Dungeon Keeper and Theme Hospital
     
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Tiller said:
    I tried AO recently again as well, it looks so outdated now I couldn't stand to play it. Which is sad because I used to like the game and I think it had some great ideas for it's time. Graphics aren't always a deciding factor for me, but with this game it almost seems they got worse over time. I thought they had a graphical overhaul planned at one time, seems that is long forgotten.
    I think they did.  There's quite a few links to AO 2017 out there.  Haven't had the time to chase the links, tho.


    Scot said:
    WoW: Proper graphics not that cartoony stuff.
    Cow shaman.  They just got to go.


    EQ with new graphics (Pantheon?)
    I don't have a problem with EQ1 graphics.  Several of the initial zones have been redone (Freeport, Commonlands, Ro), but the original Karanas and Qeynos hold up well.  If they're not enough, you can always revisit much of the early game with one of the expansions.


    I would love to see EQ2 have both a complete engine swap and graphics overhaul.

    The engine alone was enough for me to not play it although i enjoyed the couple hours i put into the free version, just not enough to endure that horrible engine. A visual overhaul would at least hold more people's attention for some time.

    Never going to happen but oh well.
    EQ2 has 'adequate' graphics for an older game.  If they put any work into this one, the engine swap is far and away the #1 issue for me.  Loading screens everywhere, and slow ones at that.  Even at launch, EQ1 was smoother in regards to the load screens.  (Not that EQ1 didn't have it's issues -- bouncing off Barbarians in the QHill-to-WKarana zone and zoning back).





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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    UO.

    UO game mechanics and world with a real 3D engine...
      UO was my second choice .. But Dam does Anarchy need it worse imo:)
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I have to say that every single game needs more work on THE GAME than the graphics.

    Sure we can overhaul,update the textures but if the game play is still weak,why bother.
    How the graphics update is done is very important as well.I don't want to just see nicer graphics if the frame rates are struggling.

    BDO has nice graphics,FFXIV has nice graphics,i don't want to play either game because they are not good enough.

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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Wizardry said:
    I have to say that every single game needs more work on THE GAME than the graphics.

    Sure we can overhaul,update the textures but if the game play is still weak,why bother.
    How the graphics update is done is very important as well.I don't want to just see nicer graphics if the frame rates are struggling.

    BDO has nice graphics,FFXIV has nice graphics,i don't want to play either game because they are not good enough.
    Maybe I'll ask about games that need revamped gameplay next, @Wizardry.




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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    edited May 2018
    Yes me too Anarchy Online and in some ways it is worse than how Everquest looked in 1999 because when I was playing on the classic Project 99 servers it does not look as bad as AO does and it could be because of the modern theme the fact that it has a futuristic theme.

  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    UO and all the pixel/voxel games
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    kitarad said:
    Yes me too Anarchy Online and in some ways it is worse than how Everquest looked in 1999 because when I was playing on the classic Project 99 servers it does not look as bad as AO does and it could be because of the modern theme the fact that it has a futuristic theme.
    Too bad they didn't go all out for AO like they did for AoC.
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  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    I would love to see some old games with new graphics.
     
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    edited May 2018
    Rhoklaw said:
    I see a lot of fellow Anarchy Online fans chiming in and yes, there was a time when it was supposed to get an "overhaul" but that never came to fruition. Then again, you have to take a look at Defiance and Defiance 2050. Which basically makes me realize just how little graphics mean compared to gameplay. When you update a game's graphics and it's still just not fun to play, then graphics are obviously not as important. Whereas Anarchy Online is actually a fun game, but definitely shows it's age, so it would be a good choice for a graphics upgrade.

    I would assume that in order for Anarchy Online to get the love it deserves, they would have to completely redesign the entire game from the ground up just to put it on an engine that could handle it. So if Funcom wants to have an easier project than starting from scratch, just make Anarchy Online 2.0 with the main focus being on improved graphics. No need to change combat mechanics and leave it as tab targeting. Keep the world geography, skills, combat forumlas and just update environmental graphics, character creation and skill animations / effects.
    We are now going into a topic that's always fascinated me, is it better once you have an established big name MMO to release a new MMO based on the first, a decade or two down the line or just create the same game with updated graphics?

    Blizzard would say, well WoW is still doing really well; but for AO, UO etc that might be the best idea. Sequels in MMOs have a history of not doing that well, so for me rather than do a AO 2, redo the original game, some new content and gameplay systems and you are more likely to be on a winner.
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  • Jill52Jill52 Member UncommonPosts: 85
    There is definitely a market for such a thing and it *should* be easier to remake an existing game than to design an entirely new one from scratch

    If they did that my choices would be (in no particular order):

    Mabinogi  with graphics like Peria Chronicles and less clunky UI/combat.

    Bring back Shin Megami Tensei: Imagine also with similar cell-shaded graphics to Peria Chronicles

    Bring back pre-CU Star Wars: Galaxies with SW:TOR graphics or better

    Bring back The Matrix Online  (pre-CR 2.0 with live events) with better graphics

    Anarchy Online with any modern graphics that won't look so dreadfully outdated on anything newer than an antique early 2000's era VGA monitor. (I imagine it with graphics similar to the Borderlands series lol)


    These games were all fun back when they still had a healthy population. Now they are either dead or have so few players they may as well be dead. I've tried to get people to join me in some of the games on my list that still exist but not enough of them could get into it because "the graphics look so old" or "the UI is confusing" or "the combat feels clunky" or any combination of those. it is sad to see perfectly good games being shut down or put on life support in favor of the more aesthetically pleasing yet uninspired games that are being made these days. 

  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Jill52 said:
    There is definitely a market for such a thing and it *should* be easier to remake an existing game than to design an entirely new one from scratch

    If they did that my choices would be (in no particular order):

    Mabinogi  with graphics like Peria Chronicles and less clunky UI/combat.

    Bring back Shin Megami Tensei: Imagine also with similar cell-shaded graphics to Peria Chronicles

    Bring back pre-CU Star Wars: Galaxies with SW:TOR graphics or better

    Bring back The Matrix Online  (pre-CR 2.0 with live events) with better graphics

    Anarchy Online with any modern graphics that won't look so dreadfully outdated on anything newer than an antique early 2000's era VGA monitor. (I imagine it with graphics similar to the Borderlands series lol)


    These games were all fun back when they still had a healthy population. Now they are either dead or have so few players they may as well be dead. I've tried to get people to join me in some of the games on my list that still exist but not enough of them could get into it because "the graphics look so old" or "the UI is confusing" or "the combat feels clunky" or any combination of those. it is sad to see perfectly good games being shut down or put on life support in favor of the more aesthetically pleasing yet uninspired games that are being made these days. 

    Mabinogi is another game I'd agree needs a severe graphics update.  It's still nice enough to play.

    I'll add in a couple of single player games -- the Might and Magic series and Darklands.  Darklands was one of the most inventive things to come out of Microprose in 1992.  It would be great to play that again.  Anyone have a PC with floppy drives these days?  I haven't had a floppy drive in 20+ years.




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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,078
    edited May 2018
    Champions of Norrath needs a remaster and a ps4 upgrade or pc port.


    Also Hunter the Reckoning

  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    edited May 2018
    Asheram said:
    Champions of Norrath needs a remaster and a ps4 upgrade or pc port.

    Also Hunter the Reckoning
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    Hunter looks bad.  Champions doesn't nearly as bad.




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