True story guys, Iv been playing since vanilla, 1 toon, have bought every xpac and leveled to max, Completed close to every major raid in each xpac. Have absolutely no f*^&^ing clue what the story has been all these years. I honestly don't. Just found out in legion the little kid in the throne room of the alliance is grown up now and i think the king is dead.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
I think it's the best it's been in years. Last time I enjoyed WoW this much was WoTLK and this I think is even better. I'm stoked for BfA because I love PvP and it sounds like they're finally fixing that as well.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
I think it's the best it's been in years. Last time I enjoyed WoW this much was WoTLK and this I think is even better. I'm stoked for BfA because I love PvP and it sounds like they're finally fixing that as well.
I'm jealous and i dont mean that in a sarcastic way. I want the WOW magic back
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
WoW is better than it was in 2004 right now. It is not better than the WoTLK era but it is much MUCH better than Vanilla and all other expansions that came after WoTLK. Pve was amazing in Legion. The progression, amount of instanced and world content and consistency of the updates were phenomenal. The only thing bad in Legion was pvp. And thank god they are fixing it in the BfA.
For me it is like WoTLK>TBC>Legion>MoP>Vanilla>Cata>WoD
My favorite expansion was TBC because of the people I played together and the memories I made in that era. Hell I had much more fun in Vanilla than WoTLK. But if I have to be unbiased, WoTLK was the all around best expansion that Blizzard made for WoW. It is ok to say that you love Vanilla more than the other expansions. I like it a lot too. But it doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of flaws name it class balance, simplicity of the fights or unbalanced and grindy pvp.
Even though I enjoyed the hell out of it, I can't say that it is better than Legion. It was an amazing experience because of the community, the feeling of exploring everything for the first time and the lack of knowledge about the game. In 2018 we don't have the same conditions. We already know everything about the game, there are tons of guides and knowledge about the game in the internet and the community is completely different. This is the reason that I know I will never enjoy the new Vanilla servers like I enjoyed the game back then.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
To be fair, it is. More people play it, the systems in place are more welcoming, its not a buggy laggy mess and their is substantial content that isn't locked behind an artificial wall of how long it takes to find a group, do the instance get 1 piece of gear. The game in 2004 was garbage. It was a good game, but it was horrible in almost every technical aspect. The community and the familiarity with the world is why it was as popular as it was. It wasn't until BC and Wrath when they started making QoL changes that really brought the game to life with population. I played all through Classic and personally i have very fond memories of it, but i have more annoying ones than anything. 40 mans were awful, if you loved them you didn't lead one. PvP was a clusterF***, everything was tedious and massively time consuming. So yeah in terms of how the game is now to back then, its not as social for sure, but it is a better video game.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
Large enough paycheck gives you a reason to say and do whatever your employer wants.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
Large enough paycheck gives you a reason to say and do whatever your employer wants.
Or he is genuinely proud of the work him and his team does with the game, and truly sees it being in the best shape it has ever been.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
WoW is better than it was in 2004 right now. It is not better than the WoTLK era but it is much MUCH better than Vanilla and all other expansions that came after WoTLK. Pve was amazing in Legion. The progression, amount of instanced and world content and consistency of the updates were phenomenal. The only thing bad in Legion was pvp. And thank god they are fixing it in the BfA.
For me it is like WoTLK>TBC>Legion>MoP>Vanilla>Cata>WoD
My favorite expansion was TBC because of the people I played together and the memories I made in that era. Hell I had much more fun in Vanilla than WoTLK. But if I have to be unbiased, WoTLK was the all around best expansion that Blizzard made for WoW. It is ok to say that you love Vanilla more than the other expansions. I like it a lot too. But it doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of flaws name it class balance, simplicity of the fights or unbalanced and grindy pvp.
Even though I enjoyed the hell out of it, I can't say that it is better than Legion. It was an amazing experience because of the community, the feeling of exploring everything for the first time and the lack of knowledge about the game. In 2018 we don't have the same conditions. We already know everything about the game, there are tons of guides and knowledge about the game in the internet and the community is completely different. This is the reason that I know I will never enjoy the new Vanilla servers like I enjoyed the game back then.
So being able to kill 10 mobs at the same time without doing much and no challange AT ALL is fun to you? You and I have clearly a very different idea of fun.
And there is no community in legion. Absolutly 0, might as well play a singleplayer game. You don't have to pay 15€ each month for those and they actually have interesting stories. Great example: Speaker of the horde... lol everyone is a freaking speaker of the horde in bfa... Whats the point of giving a title to someone when everyone gets that title. bah, I hate these singleplayer stories in a mmo that make NO SENSE. You can't be THE one when everyone is THE one.
Yea, I found the open world content in Legion to be a little too on the easy mode side, as was leveling. Glad it seems BfA will reverse that trend, but hopefully it holds even at max level.
Great video ... but I do find it interesting that Ion has no problem admitting that the motif of Mists of Pandaria turned off many players but doesn't even hint at what an obvious disaster Worlds of Draenor was.
He can't do that cause WoD was better than Legion, so that would be admitting that they created 2 disasters in a roll...
Jokes aside I still don't understand why people continue to say that WoD was a disaster when it was at the very least a lot better than Legion.
It feels that with all the mythic + grinding people aren't noticing that they aren't doing anything, but simply mythics +... I guess challenge modes weren't as gratifying since there weren't any rewards once you get them.
Class Hall? Sorry but the Order Hall was better.
Mythics +? Sorry but CM's were better. Mythics + are the same except they forced you to grind for AP, so that you can catch up to your buddies/guild mates
Questing? WoD was better I don't think we even have to talk about that.
PvP? LoL
Raids? I guess Legion raids are slightly better. It kinda depends on personal preference.
Playing Alts in Legion? LOOOOOOL
I'm curious if this was such a good expansion why are they scrapping/revamping basically all it's key features? Legendaries and Artifacts and only Mythics + remain. Well I guess the word we are looking for is because they were a "failure". Soo many people were off-put by the grind.
Btw for me TBC>WotLK>MoP>WoD>Vanilla>Cata and that's where it ends. Legion doesn't place even at last place :P
Btw everything I wrote is just my opinion. I know that there will be people who say that all the mythic + farming they've done is awesome content for them, but honestly if I'm going to do the same thing over and over I would choose an ARPG to do it on rather than an MMORPG.
Glad they scrapped the Artifacts, but it still feels like they are limiting people to some extent from playing a lot of alts.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
I stopped watching once they started telling me how great the current game is. I don't want to play BfA and I don't want to watch not so subtle ads for it either.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
WoW is better than it was in 2004 right now. It is not better than the WoTLK era but it is much MUCH better than Vanilla and all other expansions that came after WoTLK. Pve was amazing in Legion. The progression, amount of instanced and world content and consistency of the updates were phenomenal. The only thing bad in Legion was pvp. And thank god they are fixing it in the BfA.
For me it is like WoTLK>TBC>Legion>MoP>Vanilla>Cata>WoD
My favorite expansion was TBC because of the people I played together and the memories I made in that era. Hell I had much more fun in Vanilla than WoTLK. But if I have to be unbiased, WoTLK was the all around best expansion that Blizzard made for WoW. It is ok to say that you love Vanilla more than the other expansions. I like it a lot too. But it doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of flaws name it class balance, simplicity of the fights or unbalanced and grindy pvp.
Even though I enjoyed the hell out of it, I can't say that it is better than Legion. It was an amazing experience because of the community, the feeling of exploring everything for the first time and the lack of knowledge about the game. In 2018 we don't have the same conditions. We already know everything about the game, there are tons of guides and knowledge about the game in the internet and the community is completely different. This is the reason that I know I will never enjoy the new Vanilla servers like I enjoyed the game back then.
So being able to kill 10 mobs at the same time without doing much and no challange AT ALL is fun to you? You and I have clearly a very different idea of fun.
And there is no community in legion. Absolutly 0, might as well play a singleplayer game. You don't have to pay 15€ each month for those and they actually have interesting stories. Great example: Speaker of the horde... lol everyone is a freaking speaker of the horde in bfa... Whats the point of giving a title to someone when everyone gets that title. bah, I hate these singleplayer stories in a mmo that make NO SENSE. You can't be THE one when everyone is THE one.
It is so obvious that you didn't play WoW at all in the last 2 or more years. I can't kill 10 mobs that is around my level at the same time in WoW for a long time now. Not just end game but even while leveling +3 mobs means I have to run or die. Even while I was leveling my new lightbringer dranei paladin which is supposed to be the most durable class in the game I could only pull 4 mobs at the same time which I have to use my bubble to survive it. In the end game I could probably pull 5-6 mobs if I'm playing on the Broken Shore because it is a pretty old content right now but there is no way I can pull more than 3 mobs in the Argus.
You said there is no community in Legion? Hmm let's see I'm playing on Argent Dawn which is a rp realm. I have an amazing guild. We are doing rp events 4 nights every week. We have a weekly transmog contest that we are running every saturday. Every week we have tons of community events on our realm. We are doing mythic+ tournaments, for the alliance runs, server wide rp events, duel tournaments, rpvp events and more.
There is nothing wrong with the game. The problem is your anti-social nature that you are desperate enough to want a game to force you to become social. There are thousents of players in my realm and it is up to ME to socialize with them. Don't baleme others for your own shortcomings.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
WoW is better than it was in 2004 right now. It is not better than the WoTLK era but it is much MUCH better than Vanilla and all other expansions that came after WoTLK. Pve was amazing in Legion. The progression, amount of instanced and world content and consistency of the updates were phenomenal. The only thing bad in Legion was pvp. And thank god they are fixing it in the BfA.
For me it is like WoTLK>TBC>Legion>MoP>Vanilla>Cata>WoD
My favorite expansion was TBC because of the people I played together and the memories I made in that era. Hell I had much more fun in Vanilla than WoTLK. But if I have to be unbiased, WoTLK was the all around best expansion that Blizzard made for WoW. It is ok to say that you love Vanilla more than the other expansions. I like it a lot too. But it doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of flaws name it class balance, simplicity of the fights or unbalanced and grindy pvp.
Even though I enjoyed the hell out of it, I can't say that it is better than Legion. It was an amazing experience because of the community, the feeling of exploring everything for the first time and the lack of knowledge about the game. In 2018 we don't have the same conditions. We already know everything about the game, there are tons of guides and knowledge about the game in the internet and the community is completely different. This is the reason that I know I will never enjoy the new Vanilla servers like I enjoyed the game back then.
So being able to kill 10 mobs at the same time without doing much and no challange AT ALL is fun to you? You and I have clearly a very different idea of fun.
And there is no community in legion. Absolutly 0, might as well play a singleplayer game. You don't have to pay 15€ each month for those and they actually have interesting stories. Great example: Speaker of the horde... lol everyone is a freaking speaker of the horde in bfa... Whats the point of giving a title to someone when everyone gets that title. bah, I hate these singleplayer stories in a mmo that make NO SENSE. You can't be THE one when everyone is THE one.
It is so obvious that you didn't play WoW at all in the last 2 or more years. I can't kill 10 mobs that is around my level at the same time in WoW for a long time now. Not just end game but even while leveling +3 mobs means I have to run or die. Even while I was leveling my new lightbringer dranei paladin which is supposed to be the most durable class in the game I could only pull 4 mobs at the same time which I have to use my bubble to survive it. In the end game I could probably pull 5-6 mobs if I'm playing on the Broken Shore because it is a pretty old content right now but there is no way I can pull more than 3 mobs in the Argus.
You said there is no community in Legion? Hmm let's see I'm playing on Argent Dawn which is a rp realm. I have an amazing guild. We are doing rp events 4 nights every week. We have a weekly transmog contest that we are running every saturday. Every week we have tons of community events on our realm. We are doing mythic+ tournaments, for the alliance runs, server wide rp events, duel tournaments, rpvp events and more.
There is nothing wrong with the game. The problem is your anti-social nature that you are desperate enough to want a game to force you to become social. There are thousents of players in my realm and it is up to ME to socialize with them. Don't baleme others for your own shortcomings.
Couldn t agree more. It so easy to see people who don t play WoW but claim to.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
WoW is better than it was in 2004 right now. It is not better than the WoTLK era but it is much MUCH better than Vanilla and all other expansions that came after WoTLK. Pve was amazing in Legion. The progression, amount of instanced and world content and consistency of the updates were phenomenal. The only thing bad in Legion was pvp. And thank god they are fixing it in the BfA.
For me it is like WoTLK>TBC>Legion>MoP>Vanilla>Cata>WoD
My favorite expansion was TBC because of the people I played together and the memories I made in that era. Hell I had much more fun in Vanilla than WoTLK. But if I have to be unbiased, WoTLK was the all around best expansion that Blizzard made for WoW. It is ok to say that you love Vanilla more than the other expansions. I like it a lot too. But it doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of flaws name it class balance, simplicity of the fights or unbalanced and grindy pvp.
Even though I enjoyed the hell out of it, I can't say that it is better than Legion. It was an amazing experience because of the community, the feeling of exploring everything for the first time and the lack of knowledge about the game. In 2018 we don't have the same conditions. We already know everything about the game, there are tons of guides and knowledge about the game in the internet and the community is completely different. This is the reason that I know I will never enjoy the new Vanilla servers like I enjoyed the game back then.
So being able to kill 10 mobs at the same time without doing much and no challange AT ALL is fun to you? You and I have clearly a very different idea of fun.
And there is no community in legion. Absolutly 0, might as well play a singleplayer game. You don't have to pay 15€ each month for those and they actually have interesting stories. Great example: Speaker of the horde... lol everyone is a freaking speaker of the horde in bfa... Whats the point of giving a title to someone when everyone gets that title. bah, I hate these singleplayer stories in a mmo that make NO SENSE. You can't be THE one when everyone is THE one.
It is so obvious that you didn't play WoW at all in the last 2 or more years. I can't kill 10 mobs that is around my level at the same time in WoW for a long time now. Not just end game but even while leveling +3 mobs means I have to run or die. Even while I was leveling my new lightbringer dranei paladin which is supposed to be the most durable class in the game I could only pull 4 mobs at the same time which I have to use my bubble to survive it. In the end game I could probably pull 5-6 mobs if I'm playing on the Broken Shore because it is a pretty old content right now but there is no way I can pull more than 3 mobs in the Argus.
You said there is no community in Legion? Hmm let's see I'm playing on Argent Dawn which is a rp realm. I have an amazing guild. We are doing rp events 4 nights every week. We have a weekly transmog contest that we are running every saturday. Every week we have tons of community events on our realm. We are doing mythic+ tournaments, for the alliance runs, server wide rp events, duel tournaments, rpvp events and more.
There is nothing wrong with the game. The problem is your anti-social nature that you are desperate enough to want a game to force you to become social. There are thousents of players in my realm and it is up to ME to socialize with them. Don't baleme others for your own shortcomings.
I play on Velen for the most part and I understand what you’re saying but finding a good guild, has been like a nightmare for me. It’s not that all the guild are “bad”, but I have had issues finding a solid group that’s consistent. Is it my fault? I’m sure at least some of it is.
You can’t take your anectodal evidence and say someone else’s experience doesn’t matter only yours does. Doesn’t really work that way.
I really enjoy wow, and basically always have though Legion
Has been pretty hit and miss for me.
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
WoW is better than it was in 2004 right now. It is not better than the WoTLK era but it is much MUCH better than Vanilla and all other expansions that came after WoTLK. Pve was amazing in Legion. The progression, amount of instanced and world content and consistency of the updates were phenomenal. The only thing bad in Legion was pvp. And thank god they are fixing it in the BfA.
For me it is like WoTLK>TBC>Legion>MoP>Vanilla>Cata>WoD
My favorite expansion was TBC because of the people I played together and the memories I made in that era. Hell I had much more fun in Vanilla than WoTLK. But if I have to be unbiased, WoTLK was the all around best expansion that Blizzard made for WoW. It is ok to say that you love Vanilla more than the other expansions. I like it a lot too. But it doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of flaws name it class balance, simplicity of the fights or unbalanced and grindy pvp.
Even though I enjoyed the hell out of it, I can't say that it is better than Legion. It was an amazing experience because of the community, the feeling of exploring everything for the first time and the lack of knowledge about the game. In 2018 we don't have the same conditions. We already know everything about the game, there are tons of guides and knowledge about the game in the internet and the community is completely different. This is the reason that I know I will never enjoy the new Vanilla servers like I enjoyed the game back then.
So being able to kill 10 mobs at the same time without doing much and no challange AT ALL is fun to you? You and I have clearly a very different idea of fun.
And there is no community in legion. Absolutly 0, might as well play a singleplayer game. You don't have to pay 15€ each month for those and they actually have interesting stories. Great example: Speaker of the horde... lol everyone is a freaking speaker of the horde in bfa... Whats the point of giving a title to someone when everyone gets that title. bah, I hate these singleplayer stories in a mmo that make NO SENSE. You can't be THE one when everyone is THE one.
It is so obvious that you didn't play WoW at all in the last 2 or more years. I can't kill 10 mobs that is around my level at the same time in WoW for a long time now. Not just end game but even while leveling +3 mobs means I have to run or die. Even while I was leveling my new lightbringer dranei paladin which is supposed to be the most durable class in the game I could only pull 4 mobs at the same time which I have to use my bubble to survive it. In the end game I could probably pull 5-6 mobs if I'm playing on the Broken Shore because it is a pretty old content right now but there is no way I can pull more than 3 mobs in the Argus.
You said there is no community in Legion? Hmm let's see I'm playing on Argent Dawn which is a rp realm. I have an amazing guild. We are doing rp events 4 nights every week. We have a weekly transmog contest that we are running every saturday. Every week we have tons of community events on our realm. We are doing mythic+ tournaments, for the alliance runs, server wide rp events, duel tournaments, rpvp events and more.
There is nothing wrong with the game. The problem is your anti-social nature that you are desperate enough to want a game to force you to become social. There are thousents of players in my realm and it is up to ME to socialize with them. Don't baleme others for your own shortcomings.
Uhh, you couldn't pull 5-6 mobs on Argus and survive? My Ret Paladin could (EDIT- not just survive, iirc I wouldn't have even been in danger of actually dying). His self-heals and damage shields made it easy. And he wasn't even that high iLevel, I think like 915. I got that high solely from buying equipment on the Vindicaar and emissary chests.
My Arcane Mage 2 or 3 shot scaled mobs leveling up. Talented Mana Shield meant I could keep it up forever to prevent taking damage. Evocation was a full mana bar regen over 5 seconds every 3 minutes, and if that wasn't up, food only cost me like 15 seconds (literally not long enough to even lose an Arcane Charge).
If game director Ian Hazzikutosis has been playing since 2004 he can't honestly sit here and tell me he thinks the game is better now than it was in 04....cmon
WoW is better than it was in 2004 right now. It is not better than the WoTLK era but it is much MUCH better than Vanilla and all other expansions that came after WoTLK. Pve was amazing in Legion. The progression, amount of instanced and world content and consistency of the updates were phenomenal. The only thing bad in Legion was pvp. And thank god they are fixing it in the BfA.
For me it is like WoTLK>TBC>Legion>MoP>Vanilla>Cata>WoD
My favorite expansion was TBC because of the people I played together and the memories I made in that era. Hell I had much more fun in Vanilla than WoTLK. But if I have to be unbiased, WoTLK was the all around best expansion that Blizzard made for WoW. It is ok to say that you love Vanilla more than the other expansions. I like it a lot too. But it doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of flaws name it class balance, simplicity of the fights or unbalanced and grindy pvp.
Even though I enjoyed the hell out of it, I can't say that it is better than Legion. It was an amazing experience because of the community, the feeling of exploring everything for the first time and the lack of knowledge about the game. In 2018 we don't have the same conditions. We already know everything about the game, there are tons of guides and knowledge about the game in the internet and the community is completely different. This is the reason that I know I will never enjoy the new Vanilla servers like I enjoyed the game back then.
So being able to kill 10 mobs at the same time without doing much and no challange AT ALL is fun to you? You and I have clearly a very different idea of fun.
And there is no community in legion. Absolutly 0, might as well play a singleplayer game. You don't have to pay 15€ each month for those and they actually have interesting stories. Great example: Speaker of the horde... lol everyone is a freaking speaker of the horde in bfa... Whats the point of giving a title to someone when everyone gets that title. bah, I hate these singleplayer stories in a mmo that make NO SENSE. You can't be THE one when everyone is THE one.
It is so obvious that you didn't play WoW at all in the last 2 or more years. I can't kill 10 mobs that is around my level at the same time in WoW for a long time now. Not just end game but even while leveling +3 mobs means I have to run or die. Even while I was leveling my new lightbringer dranei paladin which is supposed to be the most durable class in the game I could only pull 4 mobs at the same time which I have to use my bubble to survive it. In the end game I could probably pull 5-6 mobs if I'm playing on the Broken Shore because it is a pretty old content right now but there is no way I can pull more than 3 mobs in the Argus.
You said there is no community in Legion? Hmm let's see I'm playing on Argent Dawn which is a rp realm. I have an amazing guild. We are doing rp events 4 nights every week. We have a weekly transmog contest that we are running every saturday. Every week we have tons of community events on our realm. We are doing mythic+ tournaments, for the alliance runs, server wide rp events, duel tournaments, rpvp events and more.
There is nothing wrong with the game. The problem is your anti-social nature that you are desperate enough to want a game to force you to become social. There are thousents of players in my realm and it is up to ME to socialize with them. Don't baleme others for your own shortcomings.
Uhh, you couldn't pull 5-6 mobs on Argus and survive? My Ret Paladin could (EDIT- not just survive, iirc I wouldn't have even been in danger of actually dying). His self-heals and damage shields made it easy. And he wasn't even that high iLevel, I think like 915. I got that high solely from buying equipment on the Vindicaar and emissary chests.
My Arcane Mage 2 or 3 shot scaled mobs leveling up. Talented Mana Shield meant I could keep it up forever to prevent taking damage. Evocation was a full mana bar regen over 5 seconds every 3 minutes, and if that wasn't up, food only cost me like 15 seconds (literally not long enough to even lose an Arcane Charge).
I'm not talking about my pally there. I just leveled him up so it is pretty low ilevel and sits there wating for BfA to come. My main is an arcane mage and no unfortunatelly I can't survive 5-6 mobs on Argus. Even tho I have 2 shields which one of them comes from my leg neckpiece and 3 blinks I can't even solo most of the normal rare mobs with it.
And for the leveling experience; Different classes have different advantages. I can't talk about arcane mage because I didn't leveled her up after the leveling changes but I leveled up 7 classes after the changes and only 3 classes felt super easy to level up. And they are holy priest, affliction warlock and paladin with any spec. Like I said paladin is probably the most durable class with the blessings, all those defensive cd's and a heal. And even tho with all of them it was not that easy that I was pulling 10 mobs while leveling. I could max pull 5-6 mobs and I had to use my cd's for it. Holy priest is the easiest class that I've played while leveling. I even did all those group quests in shadowmoon valley(tbc) solo while everyone looks for a party to do them. And affliction warlock is easy at every aspect of the game. Just throw your dots and drain life nonstop... It is the most boring spec I've ever played in WoW.
But for example it was very I mean VERY frustrated to play an ench shaman while I was leveling. I couldn't even pull 2 mobs easily. Same thing goes for shadow priest and rogue. Oh god shadow priest... It was a nightmare to play with her till I respeced to holy. I'm not trying to say that WoW is a super hard game or whatever. But it is not as easy as he's trying to say. Before the changes I would agree. But now it is same as every generic mmo out there. Not amazing but not that bad either.
I'm not talking about my pally there. I just leveled him up so it is pretty low ilevel and sits there wating for BfA to come. My main is an arcane mage and no unfortunatelly I can't survive 5-6 mobs on Argus. Even tho I have 2 shields which one of them comes from my leg neckpiece and 3 blinks I can't even solo most of the normal rare mobs with it.
And for the leveling experience; Different classes have different advantages. I can't talk about arcane mage because I didn't leveled her up after the leveling changes but I leveled up 7 classes after the changes and only 3 classes felt super easy to level up. And they are holy priest, affliction warlock and paladin with any spec. Like I said paladin is probably the most durable class with the blessings, all those defensive cd's and a heal. And even tho with all of them it was not that easy that I was pulling 10 mobs while leveling. I could max pull 5-6 mobs and I had to use my cd's for it. Holy priest is the easiest class that I've played while leveling. I even did all those group quests in shadowmoon valley(tbc) solo while everyone looks for a party to do them. And affliction warlock is easy at every aspect of the game. Just throw your dots and drain life nonstop... It is the most boring spec I've ever played in WoW.
But for example it was very I mean VERY frustrated to play an ench shaman while I was leveling. I couldn't even pull 2 mobs easily. Same thing goes for shadow priest and rogue. Oh god shadow priest... It was a nightmare to play with her till I respeced to holy. I'm not trying to say that WoW is a super hard game or whatever. But it is not as easy as he's trying to say. Before the changes I would agree. But now it is same as every generic mmo out there. Not amazing but not that bad either.
I don't disagree at all. My Paladin has a metric shit ton of utility and consistent healing (the main one being an attack that procs a heal). It'll be interesting to see how that changes in BfA.
I also have a max level Enhancement Shaman, and while not as powerful as my Pally (he's also not quite the same iLevel), he does get much better at endgame in my experience. The procs/Stormstrike start hitting hard, and if you can get the Legendary that procs Ascendancy, you can do pretty well solo. Being able to use Maelstrom to insta-heal myself is a large boon. In general, the legendary weapons make both melee DPS classes exponentially more powerful as you level the artifacts.
It doesn't have to feel like vanilla levels 1-10, but I would like to see a little more difficulty in the open world stuff. Both the Shaman and the Paladin also have ways to escape a fight going south, and they're ultra-reliable versus NPCs. My Mage also has invisibility to get out of a fight scot-free if needed. I guess that's okay in a sense, but it does take a lot of the danger feel out of it.
WoW has become a lot of mini-MMOs. Oh, let's play the Panderia MMO. Now let's play the WoD MMO. How about that Legion MMO? The game has no cohesion. Nothing in any expansion translates to any other expansion, either backwards or forwards. Even the story is twisted and made strange with each expansion to its former self.
This has nothing to do with the age of the game. The developers have no over-all plan for the game. Every two years they pull a rabbit out their hat and grin that they found anything in there. Either they don't have faith in their game or they don't have faith in their players, believing that they have to remake the game every two years to stay viable.
While other MMOs get bigger and more involved, WoW just gets more truncated. Soon it'll be the BfA mini-game, invalidating and rendering trite everything that came before, making it the only part of the game that matters.
And no, that's not rose glasses. I've played on numerous private servers (before they collapsed or were C&Ded).
I think the appeal of Vanilla is, each class felt unique. Now, all the tanks feel the same, all most all the healers feel the same (gogo melee holy paladin topping them HPS charts! - LFR, but still. I feel pretty proud to be playing the class in the complete opposite way as intended).
Every hits each other like they got Pool Noodles for weapons. - Back in Vanilla, you heard the "vah-oo" of a stealthed playerd...you pretty much just "/cry" and wait for the death. - Healers are pretty much unkillable unless focused down by no less than 3 DPS.
Questing is so linear. I remember being told to go to Menethil...and having no idea, as a Night Elf, how to get there. I mean...I could see it on the map. But..how dafuq do you get to that other continent...wait...THERE'S ANOTHER CONTINENT!? HOOOLY CRAP! THIS GAME IS HUUUUUGE!
...now you just either get teleported to where you need to go, or there's a portal to the nearby zone (ie this new Silithus Quest chain...just take the Uldum portal in your faction's main city. Done.)
Stuff could actually kill you! Hooly crap, I remember on my NE Hunter trying to do the one quest to kill the elite spider in Teldrassil.
...now..I try to aim to grab as many mobs as I can just to quickly aoe them down and get the job done. - Nope, Argus isn't hard. Not even on my fresh 110s in ~i880 gear. That fel reaver...dude is a nuisance at best; I sat there on my mount looking at the map while he wailed on my paladin, because I was more concerned with trying to navigate that horrible zone.
There use to be a community on the servers.
...now, I've yet to see a familiar name in game or in chat. This CZR crap has ruined any way to build friends just by seeing the same peeps again and again. Now, you HAVE to have them in a guild or on your friends list - Which you then have to 'sync up' with them to see them.
((I'm here in FF14, and people /wave at me because we got into a conversation the day before. They remember me because I'm a permanent fixture on the server...I didn't just 'zone in' because "oh that zone was a lil under populated so we filled in some player slots". Basically, in WoW it feels like when you keep transferring to new schools...you don't make friends or even acquaintances.))
WoW, in general, also feels so much more toxic than, say, FF14. I log in, after being away for several months, and the first thing I see in Trade Chat is "smack talk" about the sexual orientation of one of the other players in the channel. - Not being all "ohnoes! I can't handle eet". I'm just saying the community in FF14 seems to be much more civil. Probably, again, due to CZR. Why behave if you'll never see those people again?
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Aloha Mr Hand !
Aloha Mr Hand !
I think it's the best it's been in years. Last time I enjoyed WoW this much was WoTLK and this I think is even better. I'm stoked for BfA because I love PvP and it sounds like they're finally fixing that as well.
Aloha Mr Hand !
WoW is better than it was in 2004 right now. It is not better than the WoTLK era but it is much MUCH better than Vanilla and all other expansions that came after WoTLK. Pve was amazing in Legion. The progression, amount of instanced and world content and consistency of the updates were phenomenal. The only thing bad in Legion was pvp. And thank god they are fixing it in the BfA.
For me it is like WoTLK>TBC>Legion>MoP>Vanilla>Cata>WoD
My favorite expansion was TBC because of the people I played together and the memories I made in that era. Hell I had much more fun in Vanilla than WoTLK. But if I have to be unbiased, WoTLK was the all around best expansion that Blizzard made for WoW. It is ok to say that you love Vanilla more than the other expansions. I like it a lot too. But it doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of flaws name it class balance, simplicity of the fights or unbalanced and grindy pvp.
Even though I enjoyed the hell out of it, I can't say that it is better than Legion. It was an amazing experience because of the community, the feeling of exploring everything for the first time and the lack of knowledge about the game. In 2018 we don't have the same conditions. We already know everything about the game, there are tons of guides and knowledge about the game in the internet and the community is completely different. This is the reason that I know I will never enjoy the new Vanilla servers like I enjoyed the game back then.
To be fair, it is. More people play it, the systems in place are more welcoming, its not a buggy laggy mess and their is substantial content that isn't locked behind an artificial wall of how long it takes to find a group, do the instance get 1 piece of gear. The game in 2004 was garbage. It was a good game, but it was horrible in almost every technical aspect. The community and the familiarity with the world is why it was as popular as it was. It wasn't until BC and Wrath when they started making QoL changes that really brought the game to life with population. I played all through Classic and personally i have very fond memories of it, but i have more annoying ones than anything. 40 mans were awful, if you loved them you didn't lead one. PvP was a clusterF***, everything was tedious and massively time consuming. So yeah in terms of how the game is now to back then, its not as social for sure, but it is a better video game.
Large enough paycheck gives you a reason to say and do whatever your employer wants.
Or he is genuinely proud of the work him and his team does with the game, and truly sees it being in the best shape it has ever been.
So being able to kill 10 mobs at the same time without doing much and no challange AT ALL is fun to you? You and I have clearly a very different idea of fun.
And there is no community in legion. Absolutly 0, might as well play a singleplayer game. You don't have to pay 15€ each month for those and they actually have interesting stories. Great example: Speaker of the horde... lol everyone is a freaking speaker of the horde in bfa... Whats the point of giving a title to someone when everyone gets that title. bah, I hate these singleplayer stories in a mmo that make NO SENSE. You can't be THE one when everyone is THE one.
He can't do that cause WoD was better than Legion, so that would be admitting that they created 2 disasters in a roll...
Jokes aside I still don't understand why people continue to say that WoD was a disaster when it was at the very least a lot better than Legion.
It feels that with all the mythic + grinding people aren't noticing that they aren't doing anything, but simply mythics +... I guess challenge modes weren't as gratifying since there weren't any rewards once you get them.
Class Hall? Sorry but the Order Hall was better.
Mythics +? Sorry but CM's were better. Mythics + are the same except they forced you to grind for AP, so that you can catch up to your buddies/guild mates
Questing? WoD was better I don't think we even have to talk about that.
PvP? LoL
Raids? I guess Legion raids are slightly better. It kinda depends on personal preference.
Playing Alts in Legion? LOOOOOOL
I'm curious if this was such a good expansion why are they scrapping/revamping basically all it's key features? Legendaries and Artifacts and only Mythics + remain. Well I guess the word we are looking for is because they were a "failure". Soo many people were off-put by the grind.
Btw for me TBC>WotLK>MoP>WoD>Vanilla>Cata and that's where it ends. Legion doesn't place even at last place :P
Btw everything I wrote is just my opinion. I know that there will be people who say that all the mythic + farming they've done is awesome content for them, but honestly if I'm going to do the same thing over and over I would choose an ARPG to do it on rather than an MMORPG.
Glad they scrapped the Artifacts, but it still feels like they are limiting people to some extent from playing a lot of alts.
yeah I have no connection to these guys and they aren't part of my warcraft history
I stopped watching once they started telling me how great the current game is. I don't want to play BfA and I don't want to watch not so subtle ads for it either.
You said there is no community in Legion? Hmm let's see I'm playing on Argent Dawn which is a rp realm. I have an amazing guild. We are doing rp events 4 nights every week. We have a weekly transmog contest that we are running every saturday. Every week we have tons of community events on our realm. We are doing mythic+ tournaments, for the alliance runs, server wide rp events, duel tournaments, rpvp events and more.
There is nothing wrong with the game. The problem is your anti-social nature that you are desperate enough to want a game to force you to become social. There are thousents of players in my realm and it is up to ME to socialize with them. Don't baleme others for your own shortcomings.
Couldn t agree more. It so easy to see people who don t play WoW but claim to.
I play on Velen for the most part and I understand what you’re saying but finding a good guild, has been like a nightmare for me. It’s not that all the guild are “bad”, but I have had issues finding a solid group that’s consistent. Is it my fault? I’m sure at least some of it is.
You can’t take your anectodal evidence and say someone else’s experience doesn’t matter only yours does. Doesn’t really work that way.
I really enjoy wow, and basically always have though Legion
Has been pretty hit and miss for me.
My Arcane Mage 2 or 3 shot scaled mobs leveling up. Talented Mana Shield meant I could keep it up forever to prevent taking damage. Evocation was a full mana bar regen over 5 seconds every 3 minutes, and if that wasn't up, food only cost me like 15 seconds (literally not long enough to even lose an Arcane Charge).
And for the leveling experience; Different classes have different advantages. I can't talk about arcane mage because I didn't leveled her up after the leveling changes but I leveled up 7 classes after the changes and only 3 classes felt super easy to level up. And they are holy priest, affliction warlock and paladin with any spec. Like I said paladin is probably the most durable class with the blessings, all those defensive cd's and a heal. And even tho with all of them it was not that easy that I was pulling 10 mobs while leveling. I could max pull 5-6 mobs and I had to use my cd's for it. Holy priest is the easiest class that I've played while leveling. I even did all those group quests in shadowmoon valley(tbc) solo while everyone looks for a party to do them. And affliction warlock is easy at every aspect of the game. Just throw your dots and drain life nonstop... It is the most boring spec I've ever played in WoW.
But for example it was very I mean VERY frustrated to play an ench shaman while I was leveling. I couldn't even pull 2 mobs easily. Same thing goes for shadow priest and rogue. Oh god shadow priest... It was a nightmare to play with her till I respeced to holy. I'm not trying to say that WoW is a super hard game or whatever. But it is not as easy as he's trying to say. Before the changes I would agree. But now it is same as every generic mmo out there. Not amazing but not that bad either.
I also have a max level Enhancement Shaman, and while not as powerful as my Pally (he's also not quite the same iLevel), he does get much better at endgame in my experience. The procs/Stormstrike start hitting hard, and if you can get the Legendary that procs Ascendancy, you can do pretty well solo. Being able to use Maelstrom to insta-heal myself is a large boon. In general, the legendary weapons make both melee DPS classes exponentially more powerful as you level the artifacts.
It doesn't have to feel like vanilla levels 1-10, but I would like to see a little more difficulty in the open world stuff. Both the Shaman and the Paladin also have ways to escape a fight going south, and they're ultra-reliable versus NPCs. My Mage also has invisibility to get out of a fight scot-free if needed. I guess that's okay in a sense, but it does take a lot of the danger feel out of it.
This has nothing to do with the age of the game. The developers have no over-all plan for the game. Every two years they pull a rabbit out their hat and grin that they found anything in there. Either they don't have faith in their game or they don't have faith in their players, believing that they have to remake the game every two years to stay viable.
While other MMOs get bigger and more involved, WoW just gets more truncated. Soon it'll be the BfA mini-game, invalidating and rendering trite everything that came before, making it the only part of the game that matters.
And no, that's not rose glasses. I've played on numerous private servers (before they collapsed or were C&Ded).
I think the appeal of Vanilla is, each class felt unique. Now, all the tanks feel the same, all most all the healers feel the same (gogo melee holy paladin topping them HPS charts! - LFR, but still. I feel pretty proud to be playing the class in the complete opposite way as intended).
Every hits each other like they got Pool Noodles for weapons. - Back in Vanilla, you heard the "vah-oo" of a stealthed playerd...you pretty much just "/cry" and wait for the death. - Healers are pretty much unkillable unless focused down by no less than 3 DPS.
Questing is so linear. I remember being told to go to Menethil...and having no idea, as a Night Elf, how to get there. I mean...I could see it on the map. But..how dafuq do you get to that other continent...wait...THERE'S ANOTHER CONTINENT!? HOOOLY CRAP! THIS GAME IS HUUUUUGE!
...now you just either get teleported to where you need to go, or there's a portal to the nearby zone (ie this new Silithus Quest chain...just take the Uldum portal in your faction's main city. Done.)
Stuff could actually kill you! Hooly crap, I remember on my NE Hunter trying to do the one quest to kill the elite spider in Teldrassil.
...now..I try to aim to grab as many mobs as I can just to quickly aoe them down and get the job done. - Nope, Argus isn't hard. Not even on my fresh 110s in ~i880 gear. That fel reaver...dude is a nuisance at best; I sat there on my mount looking at the map while he wailed on my paladin, because I was more concerned with trying to navigate that horrible zone.
There use to be a community on the servers.
...now, I've yet to see a familiar name in game or in chat. This CZR crap has ruined any way to build friends just by seeing the same peeps again and again. Now, you HAVE to have them in a guild or on your friends list - Which you then have to 'sync up' with them to see them.
((I'm here in FF14, and people /wave at me because we got into a conversation the day before. They remember me because I'm a permanent fixture on the server...I didn't just 'zone in' because "oh that zone was a lil under populated so we filled in some player slots". Basically, in WoW it feels like when you keep transferring to new schools...you don't make friends or even acquaintances.))
WoW, in general, also feels so much more toxic than, say, FF14. I log in, after being away for several months, and the first thing I see in Trade Chat is "smack talk" about the sexual orientation of one of the other players in the channel. - Not being all "ohnoes! I can't handle eet". I'm just saying the community in FF14 seems to be much more civil. Probably, again, due to CZR. Why behave if you'll never see those people again?
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall.