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Shankbuster
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in Everquest II
I just got done with my last month of WoW ( for a while anyways ) and I am looking for something else to get into. I played Everquest 2 back when it first came out and was pretty dissapointed with the questing ( delivery missions to who knows where in a huge confusing city ). Then I came back to the game in July, still not satisfied. All in all I just felt pretty overwhelmed by the game. Has there been any improvments to make it a little more accessable?
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As long as you keep in mind that WoW and EQ2 are two different games, then the short answer is, yes, it is worth starting up.
There have been significant fixes and changes to the game since launch, here are a few:
- Addition of PvP. I'm not into 14-year olds that like to spawn-gank, so it's not for me. However, many others like it.
- Class revamp. No longer do you start as a "rookie" class, pick a class at level 10, then pick again at 20. Now, you start as the class you will always be. So you can be a level 1 Shadowknight, level 1 Monk, anything. The newbie island has been redone with new NPC's quests, and story-line.
- Solo and group content. I can't seem to take 3 steps without tripping over some solo mob. There is also a ton of group content, and that's not just for full groups. There is a lot to do for smaller groups of 2, 3, and 4.
- Quests. Thousands of quests to do to always keep you busy. Yes, the cities are large with many quests, but that's the Quest part of Everquest. They help you get around the cities, seeing and exploring, all the while getting some benefits from it. Eventually you will have quests that take you into dungeons, overland zones, all for even greater rewards.
I would certainly not like a game where everything is handed to me, or so simple that I figure it all out in 10 minutes. I enjoy the complexity, the depth, immersion. Not all games are for everyone, the important thing is to play what you like and have fun. What is boring to one person can be fun for another.
Kindle - 68 Erudite Conjurer - Najena - Officer and Recruiter, Foundation Guild
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I'm a fiarly new player btw, i've played a little over a week and a half, and yeah it's somewhat player unfriendly, but i'm not having a hard time with it...
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Currently Playing: Eve-Online
On the Backburner: EQ2
Retired: EQ, DAoC, WW2Online
RIP: AC2
Tried: Ryzom, Roma Victor, RoM, KH2, Forsaken World, AO, AoC, APB
Quit: SWG PRE-CU(Radiant/Starsider), WoW
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one big differenc I notice is the PvP imo on EQ2 sucks.
i don't see any fun in losing your money/items and getting xp debt if you get killed in PvP.
so obviously i didn't play on a pvp server like i did in WoW
i hope there is more to do i PvE or i might just go back to farming and waiting the hours for AV in WoW
A BIG NO. lol game still horribly boring, and most of the stuff that was not spoon feed is now been opened up. loke those progression quest to get to new places like enchanted lands and such are gone i took my unflagged toon and even zoned to everfrost, lavastorm and such
. Sooo lame. Crafting still horribly boring. No skill needed to play. press 1 to 0 over and over look i win again blah. still way to easy to lvl. in one full day 11 hours of playing i hit lvl 17 
. i miss games where for the first month before i hit lvl 20. And all the loot you cant retrade after use. this just ruins the games feel in so many ways, removes great gear form the game and floods it with way over priced trader junk. I was all orange gear/ non crafted till they ruined the game this way, then i found for every lvl i gained i had to spend my time faring for hours or hoping for one rare harvest so i can go back to lvling agian. And the gear i was looking forward to buying is now never for sale or when it is it is now 10 to 20x the cost it was before. and the time i wasted farming to pay of greedy tradeskillers i could have gotten 3 or 4 lvl's easy.
Made lvl 50 in 2 months back then. Only good thing bout coming back was to move that toon to the bazaar server and get rid of him to get some money back off this loser.
got talked into restarting one more time and it is just as bad. Biggest waste of money ever. If this was the way the game was at launch i would have never bought it. Then it was nerf after nerf till the game no longer even functioned like the game i beta tested, and like when it was released.
i can always go back to WoW
how would you say the PvE is?
i've seen the crafting system and it looks like it could have alot of potential but right now it appears to suck
the pve is pretty blan imo. Find mob that is 1 lvl lower than you is solo type mob, camp those mobs till next lvl. fighting is pressing 1 to 0 on keyboard while you auto track the mob. I use macros that type 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0, repeat for me so i target hit my macros, and watch my movie, when i hear fight stop i target next repeat.
Crafting is very lame at this point had great ponital but fell short in the long run.
only thing i like is its pretty and i have some great friends that play that i end up missing and go back to say hi, but out of the 60 or so i once new only 12 remain others left for other games.
dont play it.
its a terrible game
its laggy all the time, even with an updated graphics card.
boring quests
to hard of a game, this game you have troubles with monsters 3 levels under you, if you go on pvp server, you will get pked atleast 5 times in 30 minutes of playing.
graphics are bad, only decent if you turn them up to full, than it will lag as fuck
very disapointed in this game.
I just came back to EQ2 after a 6 month leave to try WoW.
Got so bored of WoW after hitting 60, so joined a bunch of friends on the new PvP server. We are all over 30 and not 14 year olds ganking each other!
The new PvP adds a whole new aspect to the game, and makes it alot more fun and challenging. People complain about how drastic the death penalty is, well if you want easy then yes WoW is your game, but if you want adrenaline rush then try one where if you die in PvP you lose xp and some of the stuff your carrying! Makes you think twice before rushing in to gank a bunch of players. In group or guild pvp this game is now superb. Solo it is hard work when you start off as you can be out questing in the lowbie areas and know that at any time an enemy player could appear and destroy what you've worked on. But it adds to the fun.
The new additions in the last few months have really added alot to the game, the new class structure is great and the new crafting methods really speeds up what was a very dull and fustrating area. With 2 expansion packs already out, and another on the way, plus guild houses and a bunch of other additions coming in the next few months, including a new playable faction "the exiles" EQ2 is getting better and better.
BUT if you prefer an easy relaxed game where you dont have to think and enjoy seeing kids spamming shouts at each other, then you should stick with WoW.
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
Most games out now have the same concepts: you fight, die, loot, craft, explore. You can replace a sword with a lightsaber or machine gun and it's pretty much the same thing.
The important thing to remember is, games are different with different styles, mechanics, rules, and methods. Each game was built by itself, even though over time they expand and add ideas from players, from other games, or just new concepts.
The game experience also depends on the player. Anyone can grind there way to the maximum level in a short time, then claim there is nothing to do. All the while they skimmed over quests, content, and other avenues available in the game. If they prefer to play that way, cool. They bought the game and can play it any way they want.
Other players take their time, explore, do quests, craft, interect with other players, help their guild, or other things. And that's cool too.
Instead of asking others if you should start over, why not try it for yourself? You can experience it first hand and make a well-informed decision. There are many people that will provide help, advice, and assistance, answering all your questions.
Bottom line, play what you like, not what others like or dislike.
Kindle - 68 Erudite Conjurer - Najena - Officer and Recruiter, Foundation Guild
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If you have trouble with a mob 3 levels lower than you, sorry to say, but you suck. Unless its like a heroic mob of a ^ ^ ^ mob, it should be easy. As far as pvp goes, there is ganking yes. There is ganking in any game. However, I find most of the time if you actualy be careful you can get away from gankers. Also if you learn to pvp well you can beat a lot of gankers too, even if they are a few levels higher.
This being said, i've played the game for less than 3 weeks now. I have a level 26 wizard toon on the Nagefen pvp server (Other alts too, but keep going to him) and i'm having a blast. What makes it more interesting is that I am on Queynos on that server, and Queynos is outnumbed by freeport like 2 to 1 or even more, so the pvp gets interesting.
I don't do a lot of quests, but some of the quests I found to be fun. A lot of the newbie mission quests for example I found fun, from your race instructor. Some of them are good too, ones that you need to go to a hard place.
Anyways, I guess it realy goes to show that players can have different opinions. A few posts up someone said the game was way too easy, but this guy is griping about it's difficulty. As far as leveling goes, it does get a bit slower when you get up there.
EQ2 is much more casual friendly than it was and much easier to get into. More solo/small group options all the way to upper levels. Infact EQ2 has solo instances (they scale to level) and even WoW doesn't have that.
If ya don't like it ya don't like it but I can say the game has changed a LOT and for the better. Things that WoW did 1-59, EQ2 stole and used. No more corpse recovery, no more group debt, more solo/small group content, more casual options to play, a much larger EXP reward for most quests. I think EQ2 has exceeded WoW in providing a game that casual people can play now. I say thing having 2 level 60s in WoW and knowing that level 60 in WoW is the end unless you raid or want to sit in queue to PVP for hours.
The amount of content in EQ2 is massive and my opinion is that it's much more than games like WoW.
Technical issues are another matter. Bad drivers, poor video cards or systems effect either game. I play on a 3.4GHz w/2GIG of ram and a 6800 ultra and it works fine, I also have a friend that plays on a 3GHz with 1gig of ram and a 5500 FX and it works fine. I've heard that other people using better systems having performance issues and I tend to think thats related to the user not updating drivers and/or having other issues with their PC. WoW is more forgiving in that respect but it also gives up a LOT in the graphics engine department for that.
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it takes the fun out of pvp
I can't even begin to go into enough detail of all the basic flaws that this game has. But for a simple answer just say NO to EQ2. The tier system that they have developed along side their grouping structure sevearly limits the replayability of any old content. With every new expansion they effectively make ALL of the old content obsolete and pointless, thus reducing all playable game content to the new, as a result all the new zones are overcrowded and all of the old zones are empty. I guess from SoE's point of view thats a good thing though, it means that they don't have to go back and fix all of the bugs in the old content because no one is playing in those zones anymore. As a new player you will be limited to these older zones where you will be forced to solo in a game that despite SoE's claims, is not a solo game.
EQ2 is much more casual friendly than it was and much easier to get into. More solo/small group options all the way to upper levels. Infact EQ2 has solo instances (they scale to level) and even WoW doesn't have that.
If ya don't like it ya don't like it but I can say the game has changed a LOT and for the better. Things that WoW did 1-59, EQ2 stole and used. No more corpse recovery, no more group debt, more solo/small group content, more casual options to play, a much larger EXP reward for most quests. I think EQ2 has exceeded WoW in providing a game that casual people can play now. I say thing having 2 level 60s in WoW and knowing that level 60 in WoW is the end unless you raid or want to sit in queue to PVP for hours.
This is good to hear.
I quit back about 1 year ago or more. (I think around the time the first adventure pack came out). I had a 50 inquisitor when i left.
I went to WOW, which is a great and fun game but now I have a toon to 60 and have worked my alts I feel a bit bored with the game.
I was thinking about coming back to eq2 but I remember that stuff was way to hard to solo. I had quests marked as solo that I simply couldnt do. WOW is more/less a single-player MMORPG which is kind of nice. I hated sitting around with my LFG tag on because i can't kill some mob.
Former UO player searching for something even remotely close to what UO was...
People say that EverQuest 2 is nothing like World of Warcraft, this I agree.
People say that EQ2 is more mature then WoW, this I agree.
People say that EQ2 is laggy and slow, buy a new PC I say.
I've been playing EQ2 for some time now and I will admit at first it wasn't that good, but with three expansion packs and two adventure packs and a whole ton of regular updates, they've [SOE] actually made this game pretty good.
I don't understand why people bash SOE so much, just wrote a "ticket" and got a responce the same day, that's a lot better then other major companies. This game really has listened to what the people were saying and gave them what they wanted.
I might not have the best computer, but with 2GB RAM, 6600GT and an AMD 3200+ [Barton], I can run it 1280x1024 @ the middle detail with EAX4. It gets a little choppy, but nothing that will hold me from playing the game. Also there's no lag what-so-ever with me... so if you're looking for something to "hold you over" untill your WoW fix is back, then I'd take another look into EQ2.