›

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Sign In Register

Quick Links

Black Desert Online Servers Have Been Under DDOS All Day, Kakao Taking Action - MMORPG.com

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited October 2018 in News & Features Discussion

imageBlack Desert Online Servers Have Been Under DDOS All Day, Kakao Taking Action - MMORPG.com

The Black Desert Online forum has a post that contains an ongoing timeline of a DDOS attack on game servers that started in the wee hours of the morning. Approximately 20 minutes ago, BDO staff revealed that measures have been implemented to combat the DDOS, though it remains unknown if the issues are solved at this time.

Read the full story here



¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


«1

Comments

  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    Seems like SE's been getting DDoS for the past week or so as well.
  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Wasn't there a recent ban wave? Somebody is salty perhaps?
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671

    FlyByKnight said:

    Wasn't there a recent ban wave? Somebody is salty perhaps?



    Yeah, it was only like 300 accounts or something though. I guess one of those 300 was p!ssed.
    ceratop001MrMelGibsonvelimiriusScotgastovski1
  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    GeezerGaz82ceh430velimiriusgastovski1

    • Aloha Mr Hand ! 

  • celtwulfceltwulf Member UncommonPosts: 61
    Or maybe it's someone who is tired of all the fishing bots & the little to no action being taken against them & decided to do something themselves. I know someone will scream "they just banned 300+ people" but that is a very small number compared to how many are actually in the game all the time. Granted my first hand knowledge of the situation is dated because I haven't played the game in quite some time but I know people who still do & they say it's far worse than it was just 8 months ago
    Whiskeydustceh430
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    edited October 2018
    Demands $100 in pearls for down time...

    http://anonymous-video.com/ Also this is how all the kids make those DDOS videos.
    ceh430
  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768

    Albatroes said:



    FlyByKnight said:


    Wasn't there a recent ban wave? Somebody is salty perhaps?






    Yeah, it was only like 300 accounts or something though. I guess one of those 300 was p!ssed.



    Maybe because they got banned for hacking, I imagine a hacker ddos ing would be easy for them if they are a pro.
  • HyperpsycrowHyperpsycrow Member RarePosts: 954
    edited October 2018
    HAR HAR! They has ddos attacks
    Corrupt1290




  • koira1koira1 Member UncommonPosts: 264

    vegetableoil said:



    Albatroes said:





    FlyByKnight said:



    Wasn't there a recent ban wave? Somebody is salty perhaps?









    Yeah, it was only like 300 accounts or something though. I guess one of those 300 was p!ssed.






    Maybe because they got banned for hacking, I imagine a hacker ddos ing would be easy for them if they are a pro.



    DDoSing something these days requires 0 programming knowledge. just rent a botnet and point it at right direction.
  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768

    koira1 said:



    vegetableoil said:





    Albatroes said:







    FlyByKnight said:




    Wasn't there a recent ban wave? Somebody is salty perhaps?












    Yeah, it was only like 300 accounts or something though. I guess one of those 300 was p!ssed.









    Maybe because they got banned for hacking, I imagine a hacker ddos ing would be easy for them if they are a pro.






    DDoSing something these days requires 0 programming knowledge. just rent a botnet and point it at right direction.



    they have rent a bot net now? I'm really out of touch lol
    AriesTiger
  • Asch126Asch126 Member RarePosts: 543
    Would be funny if it ends up being revealed somehow that the DDoS was BS and it was all orchestrated by Kakao in order to show they're taking action.
  • AriesTigerAriesTiger Member UncommonPosts: 444

    vegetableoil said:



    koira1 said:





    vegetableoil said:







    Albatroes said:









    FlyByKnight said:





    Wasn't there a recent ban wave? Somebody is salty perhaps?















    Yeah, it was only like 300 accounts or something though. I guess one of those 300 was p!ssed.












    Maybe because they got banned for hacking, I imagine a hacker ddos ing would be easy for them if they are a pro.









    DDoSing something these days requires 0 programming knowledge. just rent a botnet and point it at right direction.






    they have rent a bot net now? I'm really out of touch lol



    Operates through VPN I hear so feds can't touch it. Used to use TOR exits until they started packet logging CIA and DHS agents.
    the xeno door
  • AkulasAkulas Member RarePosts: 3,029
    Anyone can DDoS. I could do it right now if I wanted to. It's just a stupid thing to do. Even if the company is a moron.

    This isn't a signature, you just think it is.

  • WoeToTheVanquishedWoeToTheVanquished Member UncommonPosts: 276
    I am legitimately snowflake triggered at how you people claim to know how a DDoS works and the method it would possibly take to bring down larger companies like Pearl Abyss / BDO. It requires more than "renting" a botnet. It requires a lot of work to gather enough power to bring down big servers or find a specific loophole that can be attacked similar to Mirai botnet memcache.

    Please stop talking as if you people have a clue. Unless you're going to school for security and IT, please just stop now. I'm begging you.

    http://twitch.tv/woetothevanquished

  • AriesTigerAriesTiger Member UncommonPosts: 444

    WoeToTheVanquished said:

    I am legitimately snowflake triggered at how you people claim to know how a DDoS works and the method it would possibly take to bring down larger companies like Pearl Abyss / BDO. It requires more than "renting" a botnet. It requires a lot of work to gather enough power to bring down big servers or find a specific loophole that can be attacked similar to Mirai botnet memcache.



    Please stop talking as if you people have a clue. Unless you're going to school for security and IT, please just stop now. I'm begging you.



    Do you not know they have botnets available that charge for the hits? Every lowlife out there is trying to make money in IT...some are black hats.
    the xeno door
  • WoeToTheVanquishedWoeToTheVanquished Member UncommonPosts: 276
    edited October 2018


    I am legitimately snowflake triggered at how you people claim to know how a DDoS works and the method it would possibly take to bring down larger companies like Pearl Abyss / BDO. It requires more than "renting" a botnet. It requires a lot of work to gather enough power to bring down big servers or find a specific loophole that can be attacked similar to Mirai botnet memcache.



    Please stop talking as if you people have a clue. Unless you're going to school for security and IT, please just stop now. I'm begging you.



    Do you not know they have botnets available that charge for the hits? Every lowlife out there is trying to make money in IT...some are black hats.
    And you realize it would be IMMENSELY expensive to rent an INCREDIBLY powerful botnet with the ability to take down Kakao? Most likely it's an individual with knowledge over a vulnerability that Kakao doesn't know about. They'll most likely end up trying to blackmail Kakao to stop the attack.

    And bless your heart for believing you understand security. If I could pat you on the head, I'd give you a nice comfy one.
    ceratop001

    http://twitch.tv/woetothevanquished

  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    WoeToTheVanquished said:


    I am legitimately snowflake triggered at how you people claim to know how a DDoS works and the method it would possibly take to bring down larger companies like Pearl Abyss / BDO. It requires more than "renting" a botnet. It requires a lot of work to gather enough power to bring down big servers or find a specific loophole that can be attacked similar to Mirai botnet memcache.



    Please stop talking as if you people have a clue. Unless you're going to school for security and IT, please just stop now. I'm begging you.



    Do you not know they have botnets available that charge for the hits? Every lowlife out there is trying to make money in IT...some are black hats.
    And you realize it would be IMMENSELY expensive to rent an INCREDIBLY powerful botnet with the ability to take down Kakao? Most likely it's an individual with knowledge over a vulnerability that Kakao doesn't know about. They'll most likely end up trying to blackmail Kakao to stop the attack.

    And bless your heart for believing you understand security. If I could pat you on the head, I'd give you a nice comfy one.
    Probably only a handful of people who actually know Security in the USA and they just trade jobs when they get bored.
     
  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    DMKano said:


    I am legitimately snowflake triggered at how you people claim to know how a DDoS works and the method it would possibly take to bring down larger companies like Pearl Abyss / BDO. It requires more than "renting" a botnet. It requires a lot of work to gather enough power to bring down big servers or find a specific loophole that can be attacked similar to Mirai botnet memcache.



    Please stop talking as if you people have a clue. Unless you're going to school for security and IT, please just stop now. I'm begging you.



    Do you not know they have botnets available that charge for the hits? Every lowlife out there is trying to make money in IT...some are black hats.
    And you realize it would be IMMENSELY expensive to rent an INCREDIBLY powerful botnet with the ability to take down Kakao? Most likely it's an individual with knowledge over a vulnerability that Kakao doesn't know about. They'll most likely end up trying to blackmail Kakao to stop the attack.

    And bless your heart for believing you understand security. If I could pat you on the head, I'd give you a nice comfy one.


    I honestly dont know if you are kidding or not.

    It is not expensive at all to generate 100Gb+ DDOS today - can be done for a few hundred dollars per hour. Multi hundred Gb attacks are common now.

    There are a handful of companies that are immune to volumetric ddos due to massive connectivity - Google being #1 as well as Facebook and Netflix. Google can absorb a terabit attack no problem.

    But Black Desert NA is small potatoes to take down as they dont have any front-side service that can start advertising their BGP AS and clean the traffic - example Akamai Prolexic was able to mitigate a 1.35Tb attack on github in Feb of this year.

    If you look at BDO client wireshark packet captures right now, you will see that there is no BGP handoff to any ddos mitigation service - which is why even now players are getting disconnected. Heck you dont need to do any packet captures - a simple trace route reveals that there had been no change in how they are advertising their public prefixes - same path as before ddos.

    Finally volumetric or bandwidth DDOS has nothing to do with security - it has to do with BGP routing and and network saturation of provider uplink ports (10Gb in case of Kakao in NA)





    Kyleran
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • SolancerSolancer Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Lol, well if hackers are using bots/hacks why would they care for a few ban or what not, it cost far less to make new accounts than to rent a bot net and jam up the farming? If farmers or gold sellers aim to make money then it just cost effective to make new accounts.

    However, imo I would think this is just more of cheating hack the game for gold/gem/or what have you than a DDoS, I mean the key point is money here. If anything, hackers really should hack the cash shop and make everything -1 pearl I'm sure everyone will enjoy BDO even more.

    If nothing else, this is a PR stunts for Kakao to remain relevant, not like Kakao is a honest company to begin with.
  • SolancerSolancer Member UncommonPosts: 121

    DMKano said:


    Solancer said:

    Lol, well if hackers are using bots/hacks why would they care for a few ban or what not, it cost far less to make new accounts than to rent a bot net and jam up the farming? If farmers or gold sellers aim to make money then it just cost effective to make new accounts.



    However, imo I would think this is just more of cheating hack the game for gold/gem/or what have you than a DDoS, I mean the key point is money here. If anything, hackers really should hack the cash shop and make everything -1 pearl I'm sure everyone will enjoy BDO even more.



    If nothing else, this is a PR stunts for Kakao to remain relevant, not like Kakao is a honest company to begin with.



    Disconnecting your players from the game all day as PR stunt?
    Seriously?

    No. Come on now.



    Why not? Its free to play in Korea and yet they made ppl pay in the West? 30 dollars for fashion items (well more or less)? Not like we really know for sure what that an attack was or it might had been the staff trip over a server cable and call it an attack to avoid being at fault, >_>' well that was just my 3 cents anyway.
  • TensionxTensionx Member UncommonPosts: 14
    edited October 2018
    If you're a whale and started at launch buying max cap and selling costumes you could have spent upwards of 100k+ on the game so far. That'd be a salty whale with enough disposable income to pay for an attack.
    That's an interesting scenario..

    Second would be a competing company who understands that item-mall / f2p games have large player bases that blow like the wind to the 'next best thing' when shit starts to fall apart. Retention in f2p MMO's is only as good as your new content and game experience.

    Lastly it might be a DDOS attack on the service provider that has shared resources across their distributed network, while BDO might be single tenant on hardware it's could be in a cloud foot print that's also being attacked.
    doomexKyleran
  • nfacatriusnfacatrius Member UncommonPosts: 100
    Lets just put it that way. Kakao's/Daum's servers are weak. See the whole dc/lagg issue over on NA and EU in the recent past where they changed the host. They still cheaped out with the next one tho.
    PhryLife2v
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,455

    Solancer said:



    DMKano said:




    Solancer said:


    Lol, well if hackers are using bots/hacks why would they care for a few ban or what not, it cost far less to make new accounts than to rent a bot net and jam up the farming? If farmers or gold sellers aim to make money then it just cost effective to make new accounts.





    However, imo I would think this is just more of cheating hack the game for gold/gem/or what have you than a DDoS, I mean the key point is money here. If anything, hackers really should hack the cash shop and make everything -1 pearl I'm sure everyone will enjoy BDO even more.





    If nothing else, this is a PR stunts for Kakao to remain relevant, not like Kakao is a honest company to begin with.





    Disconnecting your players from the game all day as PR stunt?
    Seriously?

    No. Come on now.






    Why not? Its free to play in Korea and yet they made ppl pay in the West? 30 dollars for fashion items (well more or less)? Not like we really know for sure what that an attack was or it might had been the staff trip over a server cable and call it an attack to avoid being at fault, >_>' well that was just my 3 cents anyway.



    It is hard to say exactly what is going on, but this is not a PR stunt it makes BDO look bad.
  • BananableBananable Member UncommonPosts: 194
    Black Desert Online Servers Have Been Under DDOS All Day!

    While Kakao drinks cocoa...
  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    Of course everyone in this thread is an IT genius and I'm sure can disable NASA if they wished. I'll be honest enough and say I would have no idea where to begin to do any of this so I expect there is some It knowledge that is required despite everyone saying how easy it is.
Sign In or Register to comment.