Lol, well if hackers are using bots/hacks why would they care for a few ban or what not, it cost far less to make new accounts than to rent a bot net and jam up the farming? If farmers or gold sellers aim to make money then it just cost effective to make new accounts.
However, imo I would think this is just more of cheating hack the game for gold/gem/or what have you than a DDoS, I mean the key point is money here. If anything, hackers really should hack the cash shop and make everything -1 pearl I'm sure everyone will enjoy BDO even more.
If nothing else, this is a PR stunts for Kakao to remain relevant, not like Kakao is a honest company to begin with.
There's a difference between a PR stunt and a PR catastrophe. The saying that any publicity is good publicity is a bold-faced lie because no publicity is worse then "Our game is not accessible right now because we're being ddosed non-stop," outside of outright developer corruption/etc.
The attack seems to have been limited to just the NA servers, as the EU ones were unaffected, even so it didn't take Kakao long to deal with it, after about an hour i was able to gain access again, looks like that was how long it took for the anti DDOS measures to be enabled, probably had to feed the hamsters, or pay them or something. Lot of speculation as to who was behind it, current scuttlebut is that it was the RU publisher that lost the licence recently, would be hillarious if true
The attack seems to have been limited to just the NA servers, as the EU ones were unaffected, even so it didn't take Kakao long to deal with it, after about an hour i was able to gain access again, looks like that was how long it took for the anti DDOS measures to be enabled, probably had to feed the hamsters, or pay them or something. Lot of speculation as to who was behind it, current scuttlebut is that it was the RU publisher that lost the licence recently, would be hillarious if true
Wasn't there a recent ban wave? Somebody is salty perhaps?
Yeah, it was only like 300 accounts or something though. I guess one of those 300 was p!ssed.
Maybe because they got banned for hacking, I imagine a hacker ddos ing would be easy for them if they are a pro.
There are sites that sell ddos attacks, just pay and designate.
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It seem a lot of people don't ever think a company would do such outrageous thing like a DDoS on themselves would benefit. What benefit can they gain from this act? One possibility might be an excuse to make the super hardcore fans grind much harder to makeup for lose time? That might encourage to spend more boosters sales, who knows what else? While all the merrier to be on the news radar all at the same time.
On a different note; the comments on DDoS atk can be easy or hard and it will depend on how much know how and if they got the tools/apps to do those things. In current time those hacking tools are far easier to get then 20-30 years ago. That and today have far more hackers in the making than 20-30 years ago as well.
As I see the world charges, I also see how crazy those ppl in suit would do/go crazy far to string or con ppl into whatever that makes them money or made ppl in general to spend money. In closing, not like we the masses will really know what really happen on any level, so I'll leave it off here. Good day ~
It seem a lot of people don't ever think a company would do such outrageous thing like a DDoS on themselves would benefit. What benefit can they gain from this act? One possibility might be an excuse to make the super hardcore fans grind much harder to makeup for lose time? That might encourage to spend more boosters sales, who knows what else? While all the merrier to be on the news radar all at the same time.
On a different note; the comments on DDoS atk can be easy or hard and it will depend on how much know how and if they got the tools/apps to do those things. In current time those hacking tools are far easier to get then 20-30 years ago. That and today have far more hackers in the making than 20-30 years ago as well.
As I see the world charges, I also see how crazy those ppl in suit would do/go crazy far to string or con ppl into whatever that makes them money or made ppl in general to spend money. In closing, not like we the masses will really know what really happen on any level, so I'll leave it off here. Good day ~
You need to talk to @Wizardry. He can give you some lessons on building a conspiracy theory.
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Sometimes I wonder if they are really getting DDoS or they implemented a patch to the net code and it's flooding them with packets. Something like they uploaded a test client's code.
Or maybe it's someone who is tired of all the fishing bots & the little to no action being taken against them & decided to do something themselves. I know someone will scream "they just banned 300+ people" but that is a very small number compared to how many are actually in the game all the time. Granted my first hand knowledge of the situation is dated because I haven't played the game in quite some time but I know people who still do & they say it's far worse than it was just 8 months ago
It's not a fishing bot... Are you that simple? The game has built in AFK fishing. It isn't a bot.
Or maybe it's someone who is tired of all the fishing bots & the little to no action being taken against them & decided to do something themselves. I know someone will scream "they just banned 300+ people" but that is a very small number compared to how many are actually in the game all the time. Granted my first hand knowledge of the situation is dated because I haven't played the game in quite some time but I know people who still do & they say it's far worse than it was just 8 months ago
It's not a fishing bot... Are you that simple? The game has built in AFK fishing. It isn't a bot.
Lol, well if hackers are using bots/hacks why would they care for a few ban or what not, it cost far less to make new accounts than to rent a bot net and jam up the farming? If farmers or gold sellers aim to make money then it just cost effective to make new accounts.
However, imo I would think this is just more of cheating hack the game for gold/gem/or what have you than a DDoS, I mean the key point is money here. If anything, hackers really should hack the cash shop and make everything -1 pearl I'm sure everyone will enjoy BDO even more.
If nothing else, this is a PR stunts for Kakao to remain relevant, not like Kakao is a honest company to begin with.
Disconnecting your players from the game all day as PR stunt? Seriously?
No. Come on now.
Why not? Its free to play in Korea and yet they made ppl pay in the West? 30 dollars for fashion items (well more or less)? Not like we really know for sure what that an attack was or it might had been the staff trip over a server cable and call it an attack to avoid being at fault, >_>' well that was just my 3 cents anyway.
Are you retarded? Made people pay for it in the west? People repeatedly requested the game be B2P or P2P in the westt and they purposely picked that business model here because people prefer it in the west because "hurr durr gotta twist p2w to be whatever the hell we want it to mean instead of its real meaning"
Or maybe it's someone who is tired of all the fishing bots & the little to no action being taken against them & decided to do something themselves. I know someone will scream "they just banned 300+ people" but that is a very small number compared to how many are actually in the game all the time. Granted my first hand knowledge of the situation is dated because I haven't played the game in quite some time but I know people who still do & they say it's far worse than it was just 8 months ago
It's not a fishing bot... Are you that simple? The game has built in AFK fishing. It isn't a bot.
Even so that's small apples vs the amount of people auto afk fishing. 647 cheaters isn't all that much vs how many i've sene banned in other games in a months time frame. At least BDO tells. And what would it have to do with anything. If Kakao banned the fishing bots themselves. DDoS won't get rid of bots, they'll just be there when shit starts back up. No these are little twits that have parent's money to spend and just take revenge cuz they are salty from getting banned or what have you or people like you that seem to have some kinda hate rager for BDO or f2p games.
Or maybe it's someone who is tired of all the fishing bots & the little to no action being taken against them & decided to do something themselves. I know someone will scream "they just banned 300+ people" but that is a very small number compared to how many are actually in the game all the time. Granted my first hand knowledge of the situation is dated because I haven't played the game in quite some time but I know people who still do & they say it's far worse than it was just 8 months ago
It's not a fishing bot... Are you that simple? The game has built in AFK fishing. It isn't a bot.
Even so that's small apples vs the amount of people auto afk fishing. 647 cheaters isn't all that much vs how many i've sene banned in other games in a months time frame. At least BDO tells. And what would it have to do with anything. If Kakao banned the fishing bots themselves. DDoS won't get rid of bots, they'll just be there when shit starts back up. No these are little twits that have parent's money to spend and just take revenge cuz they are salty from getting banned or what have you or people like you that seem to have some kinda hate rager for BDO or f2p games.
Hate rager? Like calling someone a simpleton or worse like you did Solancer for just giving their theory or opinion? Ok
I am legitimately snowflake triggered at how you people claim to
know how a DDoS works and the method it would possibly take to bring
down larger companies like Pearl Abyss / BDO. It requires more than
"renting" a botnet. It requires a lot of work to gather enough power to
bring down big servers or find a specific loophole that can be attacked
similar to Mirai botnet memcache.
Please stop talking as if you people have a clue. Unless you're going to
school for security and IT, please just stop now. I'm begging you.
Do you not know they have botnets available that charge for the hits?
Every lowlife out there is trying to make money in IT...some are black
hats.
And you realize it would be IMMENSELY expensive to rent an INCREDIBLY
powerful botnet with the ability to take down Kakao? Most likely it's an
individual with knowledge over a vulnerability that Kakao doesn't know
about. They'll most likely end up trying to blackmail Kakao to stop the
attack.
And bless your heart for believing you understand security. If I could pat you on the head, I'd give you a nice comfy one.
(disgruntled ramblings enuse...I'm getting better though lol.)
I used to help volunteer updates to the PDO libraries before I realized most of the shutins who code nowdays just copy and paste code from all over and glob it all over then add their name to it.
And now with the nextgens "groupthink" is becoming such a thing that it takes 5 coders to do a job that used to take just a normal person. These kids think they can just skim all the info and get the "gist of it" because they'll find the answer online somewhere.
Now apply that thinking to online websites. You best damn believe security is one of my highest priorities when we got kids running the system amuck. Literally if you see a 20-something coder you better get behind their code with a fire extinguisher ready to put the fires out. :P
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Kakao needs to get verizon fios, can confirm as experience with someone who has internet.
There's a difference between a PR stunt and a PR catastrophe. The saying that any publicity is good publicity is a bold-faced lie because no publicity is worse then "Our game is not accessible right now because we're being ddosed non-stop," outside of outright developer corruption/etc.
Lot of speculation as to who was behind it, current scuttlebut is that it was the RU publisher that lost the licence recently, would be hillarious if true
There are sites that sell ddos attacks, just pay and designate.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
On a different note; the comments on DDoS atk can be easy or hard and it will depend on how much know how and if they got the tools/apps to do those things. In current time those hacking tools are far easier to get then 20-30 years ago. That and today have far more hackers in the making than 20-30 years ago as well.
As I see the world charges, I also see how crazy those ppl in suit would do/go crazy far to string or con ppl into whatever that makes them money or made ppl in general to spend money. In closing, not like we the masses will really know what really happen on any level, so I'll leave it off here. Good day ~
It's not a fishing bot... Are you that simple? The game has built in AFK fishing. It isn't a bot.
Yup
Are you retarded? Made people pay for it in the west? People repeatedly requested the game be B2P or P2P in the westt and they purposely picked that business model here because people prefer it in the west because "hurr durr gotta twist p2w to be whatever the hell we want it to mean instead of its real meaning"
Even so that's small apples vs the amount of people auto afk fishing. 647 cheaters isn't all that much vs how many i've sene banned in other games in a months time frame. At least BDO tells. And what would it have to do with anything. If Kakao banned the fishing bots themselves. DDoS won't get rid of bots, they'll just be there when shit starts back up. No these are little twits that have parent's money to spend and just take revenge cuz they are salty from getting banned or what have you or people like you that seem to have some kinda hate rager for BDO or f2p games.
I used to help volunteer updates to the PDO libraries before I realized most of the shutins who code nowdays just copy and paste code from all over and glob it all over then add their name to it.
What could go wrong?
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