Blizzard deleting Diablo Immortal YouTube dislikes?

MightyUnclean · November 2018

I checked out the Diablo Blizzard trailer on YouTube a couple of hours ago and it had 410K dislikes. I just looked again, and it has dropped to 370K dislikes. People in the comments are saying that 200K+ dislikes have been deleted. How is this even possible? Is Blizzard reporting "bot dislikes" or something to YouTube and having them deleted? Or does Blizz have the ability to delete them directly?

ConstantineMerus · November 2018

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

MightyUnclean · November 2018

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

ConstantineMerus · November 2018

MightyUnclean said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

Then again, it ain't the first time that YouTube is being incredibly dishonest. Don't get me wrong, it's their company and they should run it however the hell they want. But their charade about their ethics and morals is just ridiculous.

Iselin · November 2018

MightyUnclean said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

According to the @DMKano theory that people are dumb and have short attention spans, it doesn't matter what they do because everyone will forget in 3-4 months.

ConstantineMerus · November 2018

Iselin said:

MightyUnclean said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

According to the @DMKano theory that people are dumb and have short attention spans, it doesn't matter what they do because everyone will forget in 3-4 months.

They might forget, but they'll never forgive. People hate a lot of companies and if you investigate you'd find out most of them can't remember how it started in the first place.

Erinak1 · November 2018

Iselin said:

MightyUnclean said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

According to the @DMKano theory that people are dumb and have short attention spans, it doesn't matter what they do because everyone will forget in 3-4 months.

He talks a lot of crap but he is right about that (Though you can't credit him with the "theory" :P) Though people don't forget, the initial emotions people feel towards a game when its announced fades, good or bad (which is why starting hype too far in advance is bad). By the time the game comes out, most of the people who had no strong feelings one way or the other will have put aside the fact that there was ever an outcry and quite a lot of the people who currently feel negatively towards it will, to be blunt, get over it. Play it or not, if they felt the game wasn't for them, they were not going to be a customer anyway. So, people don't forget but they do, to quote a certain princess, "Let it go".

If you aren't sure how a game will go down, announce it far in advance of when it comes out as any negative feelings towards the game will have taken a backseat to whatever the next big, annoying thing is and so a lot of people coming across the game when its released will probably not associate it with that game.

SBFord · November 2018

From what we've understood, there are a lot of factors going into the "likes / dislikes" comments thing. It is possibly as simple as YT removing multiple comments from individual users combined with the fact that there appears to be more than one version of the video up. It's one of those things that can't be definitively proven one way or the other.

Lowellsanders · November 2018

Hahah I just saw that this video got 148k dislikes and 10k likes. and they are deleting comments, btw comments section is very funny

Bananable · November 2018

Whata surprise another "amazing" company treat their beloved customers like crap.

I dont care that they want to make mobile game, but this is really pissing me off.
"Shut up and give us money." Thats what they all do these days.

Whats the point of these likes/dislikes, comments , reviews. They brag if those positive - "Yay, WE are awesome", but look what they do when they are wrong. They cant even admit it.

P.S. POE announced paid leagues, yay! >.>

moosecatlol · November 2018

My favorite is that Blizzard has learned nothing over the past few years. They pulled another you think you do but you don't at their press conference.

Kyleran · November 2018

ConstantineMerus said:

Iselin said:

MightyUnclean said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

According to the @DMKano theory that people are dumb and have short attention spans, it doesn't matter what they do because everyone will forget in 3-4 months.

They might forget, but they'll never forgive. People hate a lot of companies and if you investigate you'd find out most of them can't remember how it started in the first place.

Yet as EA has proven, people still buy their games by the mega millions.

Few people stick to their principles, if there is a game they really want to play they'll buy it from satan if necessary.

Kyleran · November 2018

moosecatlol said:

My favorite is that Blizzard has learned nothing over the past few years. They pulled another you think you do but you don't at their press conference.

They'll eventually be proven correct in both cases; they know their customers better than their customers know themselves.

Kyleran · November 2018

MightyUnclean said:

I checked out the Diablo Blizzard trailer on YouTube a couple of hours ago and it had 410K dislikes. I just looked again, and it has dropped to 370K dislikes. People in the comments are saying that 200K+ dislikes have been deleted. How is this even possible? Is Blizzard reporting "bot dislikes" or something to YouTube and having them deleted? Or does Blizz have the ability to delete them directly?

510K dislikes, 410K, 370K, still a ton of dislikes, I wouldn't worry too much unless you see the slate wiped clean.

Pretty clear people are downvoting the concept of Diablo on mobile not for its merits but because they are butthurt over the decision not to create a new PC title.

Gamers need to grow up and social media down voting is an idea which needs to DIAF.

Kyleran · November 2018

MightyUnclean said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

If true I would think better of both Blizzard and or YouTube for doing it.

Tired of gamers with their panties in a bunch facetiously slamming something for the wrong reasons.

Yes, its "Man-up" Monday, time to put the big boy pants on folks.

Wellspring · November 2018

I went ahead and added a dislike to the video -- in honor of all the other fallen dislikes.

hallucigenocide · November 2018

don't see the point in going all defensive mode right now after they presented it to the wrong audience.. games not even out yet and by the time it is those will probably gotten over it and moved on so then would probably be a better time to re-upload it.

JeffSpicoli · November 2018

Kyleran said:

MightyUnclean said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

Yes, its "Man-up" Monday, time to put the big boy pants on folks.

Man -Up Monday sounds fun! Its time to INTERNETTT RUMBLEEEEEEEE.......over video games...

Dakeru · November 2018

This outlash against Blizz wouldn't have been so big if they had silently released this game.

But well what happened is that the fans had expectation and Blizzard announces a random mobile game made by a Chinese company which had received a reskin to match the Diablo theme.

I am not really a Diablo fan but if I was, I too would be angry at Blizzard at how little they value one of their previously biggest IPs.

ConstantineMerus · November 2018

Kyleran said:

ConstantineMerus said:

Iselin said:

MightyUnclean said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

According to the @DMKano theory that people are dumb and have short attention spans, it doesn't matter what they do because everyone will forget in 3-4 months.

They might forget, but they'll never forgive. People hate a lot of companies and if you investigate you'd find out most of them can't remember how it started in the first place.

Yet as EA has proven, people still buy their games by the mega millions.

Few people stick to their principles, if there is a game they really want to play they'll buy it from satan if necessary.

There are no evidence supporting a claim that bad PR would get absolutely resolved overtime. This is just how some people feel about it. Bad PR affects buyer's trust and increases buyer decision-making uncertainty. You can find dozens of studies regarding this. The mistake here is how big of a deal you'd make of it. Some people expect a company to get obliterated over a bad PR move or unfair practice--which is extremely rare.

Well, to be precise, EA has proven nothing new. First of all, we don't have access to their assessments and predictions and numbers. We feel it should be doing bad due to some event, then we feel they are not doing all that bad, hence we make the conclusion that people are sheep suffering from memory loss and would buy just about anything.

But even from our own defective perspective, we can't claim that EA would've had the same sales figures if they had a clean sheet when it comes down to bad publicity. Also EA isn't just a series of bad PR, they do a lot good ones as well. That's why they are still here.

A good example is FIFA; some years it sells really good, and some others years, including this one, it tanks.

Xasapis · November 2018

Kyleran said:

MightyUnclean said:

I checked out the Diablo Blizzard trailer on YouTube a couple of hours ago and it had 410K dislikes. I just looked again, and it has dropped to 370K dislikes. People in the comments are saying that 200K+ dislikes have been deleted. How is this even possible? Is Blizzard reporting "bot dislikes" or something to YouTube and having them deleted? Or does Blizz have the ability to delete them directly?

510K dislikes, 410K, 370K, still a ton of dislikes, I wouldn't worry too much unless you see the slate wiped clean.

Pretty clear people are downvoting the concept of Diablo on mobile not for its merits but because they are butthurt over the decision not to create a new PC title.

Gamers need to grow up and social media down voting is an idea which needs to DIAF.

Blizzard did the equivalent of going to a vegan convention to announce their beef jerky lineup. Sure, the beef jerky will probably be very profitable, but don't you see the problem with the audience they picked to announce it?

ConstantineMerus · November 2018

DMKano said:

Iselin said:

MightyUnclean said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

But unless there's something going on that people are missing, that's just incredibly dishonest and will damage Blizzard's reputation. People aren't going to think negatively of YouTube, but of Blizz. This has to make it into the gaming press, right?

According to the @DMKano theory that people are dumb and have short attention spans, it doesn't matter what they do because everyone will forget in 3-4 months.

There is nothing quite as fickle as a video gamer.

Why you say so? How are gamers different than any other type of consumers? I'm asking sincerely.

RPGMASTERGAMER · November 2018

the fact they decided to create a mobile game with netease dont mean they decided to make it over a diablo 4 for pc... netease the one behind this game mostly and they sure would have not made a diablo 4 games, that blizzard.

why you dislike it ? it can be a good mobile game, do you go dislike all new game you dont enjoy in youtube, who you are not the main target too ? i will go dislike hello kitty online !!!

it can only bring them big money... wich maybe, can be used to fund a diablo 4 if they see the hype this mobile game bring.

over all that only good and peoples have loss nothing over it

Panther2103 · November 2018

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

Do you have proof for this? At least proof that it wasn't a video brigaided by bots? Because I'm pretty sure this would be the first instance of them removing dislikes that weren't bot related that I've ever heard of.

ConstantineMerus · November 2018

DMKano said:

ConstantineMerus said:
Why you say so? How are gamers different than any other type of consumers? I'm asking sincerely.

EA - classic example - one of the most hated video game companies, its been voted the worst company for many years in a row - but somehow during all those years they made more and more money.

This is what's happening with Blizzard right now - lots of barking with zero bite - that's what gamers do.

However look at the car industry - look at all the research of consumers following through with what they say - like never buying a car from Company X again or never buying american again etc... it's real

The difference is - people don't see game investments as all that serious so flip flopping on what they say is no big deal - but with actual physical goods of higher importance - people are a lot less fickle

That's how it's different - the very nature of how temporary video games are is what makes the consumers so fickle - as most players know it's something they'll play for a little while and then move on.

Alright, let's go with that. To avoid any unnecessary drama, I am not supporting EA here. I am just stating some facts that comes to mind to support my argument that gamers are not the most fickle.

You have to reach a size and a certain level of fame to be able to land on that list--most of the gaming companies don't even meet that criteria. It means enough people are buying your products so you can generate enough hate to make it on the list. I read 24/7 Wall St. methodology and it's not just about quality but also quantity. So you can definitely compare EA to other companies on the list, but not to all other gaming companies. Because that's like to say a mom and pop store receive less complaints from their customers compared to Walmart so they must be treating their customers better.

Besides a couple of companies the rest on the list are also as big as ever; how does that make gamers the most fickle? Why not anyone else?

I don't know this so I asking; any evidence that suggests that EA has been completely unscathed from bad publicity when it comes down to sales?

Do you claim that EA would've been exactly the same company with the same amount of sale if they had a clean sheet when it comes down to bad publicity?

EA is ranked 5th on the list, the Weinstein company is 20th - does that mean Americans prefer rapists to cash-shops? I am pointing this out as an example to realize how do these types of research work. This is not science nor academic research, this is journalism.

Your car analogy doesn't work here. You can't compare people's spending habits on life's necessities to their hobbies. If you think gamers are the most fickle, you have to compare them to another form of hobby and make a conclusion.

The truth is market is growing every year. Video games has turned from a $40 million industry to a $110 billion industry in my lifetime. It is hard to compare the annual sale numbers in such a rapid growing market. It requires serious studies to understand what really goes on the gaming market and sort of effects these type of PR fiascos had over the brands and the companies. But to claim that it has none whatsoever does seem impossible.

And again I must refer to my comment to Ky; gaming companies haven't discovered the elixir of immortality. Like all other industries they suffer from the same misfortunes and mistakes. The nature of gaming makes their success and recovery in many aspects easier, and in some much harder. FIFA made a huge sale last year, and this year it is direly disappointing and EA wasn't able to fix that. So I'm having a hard time believing that people would their next product whatever they do. Because numbers suggest that they don't.

I also fail to see any evidence for the claims that people who chose gaming as a hobby are the most fickle, and gaming companies are somehow completely immune to PR misfortunes.

ConstantineMerus · November 2018

Panther2103 said:

ConstantineMerus said:

It ain't the first time that YouTube is removing dislikes or comments for a certain video or company.

Do you have proof for this? At least proof that it wasn't a video brigaided by bots? Because I'm pretty sure this would be the first instance of them removing dislikes that weren't bot related that I've ever heard of.

I just pointed out that it isn't the first time that this has happened. The reason being caused by a bot or not, we can never know. Although when you are buying ads from YouTube they assure you that their website is bot-proof.

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