I'd have a look for about an hour then wait until it's fully finished even if I get in. I want to play the finished product, not be fed up with the game before it's even finished.
No, you can't have my login if I do.
You should not even ask to be a tester if that is your plan. You basically screw someone else out of a spot if you do get in that might actually you know test the game. I understand you logic behind it but it doesn't help the game or the devs to do that.
I knew someone would say this
If they need more active testers they will invite more. The end.
It's not the end. No they normally don't invite more till the next round of testing, which normally is to look at something different in an alpha. So you basically say that you want to play the game, not test it in what you are saying. So why not wait for it to launch? What if every tester invited had your attitude? Nothing would get tested, then you would complain at launch why isn't this fixed, well you would have contributed to things not getting fixed. That's an issue. Hell I will be honest I miss the old days of testing where the average person didn't stand a chance of getting in and you couldn't buy your way in either. The end!
How many people do you think actually get into alpha and beta games to test? I'm willing to bet it's actually a very small percentage. Most get into them to see what it's like or it's used as a marketing scheme by devs to charge for access to an unfinished game. It's not like it was 8-10 yrs ago when you actually had to fill out an application and then go through an interview to be selected to participate. Those games usually released with far fewer bugs.
I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.
I remember playing the original Torchlight! Fun times were had. I haven't been following the hype for the game, but as long as they stick to the script, I don't see why this won't turn out well.
When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
Did you see Blizzcon? Diablo is now for 9 year olds.
No kidding, and WoW has been going that way for some time now, and what's more surprising is that it blatantly hasn't been working out! Yet they keep pushing their content towards that direction, that to me screams terrible management.
I remember watching my brother playing Diablo 2 a little and that game actually freaked me out lol!
When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
Ill play it but i dont see anything that says wow! yet.
I Hate to agree but you are right, i was kind of hesitant to share that opinion because iv been so dam negative on most new game releases lately and didn't want to be that "joykill forum guy".
Listen, Im a huge TL2 fan, Love ARPG's , salivating for a new one to play, but something about the gameplay vids of this have left me kind of meh.... With that said i have this funny feeling this is the kind of game that is wayyyyy more fun to play then to watch.
"moving fast" well these type of games have literally no content,they are shallow beatem up type games,that is why they are going for this yet again,low risk,low cost and fast to market.
Now in saying this is going to be more same old crap,i see potential and it bothers me a lot that devs won't go that extra mile to make something grand.I see really nice animations,models,i see fun stuff,but i see NO GAME.
I need to see devs take the hard work that they do accomplish and COMPLETE a AAA game,quit trying to sell me single A gaming,ARPG;'s are single A gaming,fun for a week.
I bet you're a really positive and cheerful person in real life and like to roleplay this dark persona online in private.
Personally, I've clocked in about 1000+ hrs in Diablo 3, 1000+ in PoE, 200+ in Torchlight 2, 500+ in Grim Dawn. They might only be fun for a week to you.. but to real fans of the genre they are games that we'll keep playing and going back to over the next 10 years.
I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but... 1000+ hours in D3? How? I finished the game in around 20-25 and uninstalled. (and while I think I got my RoI back, it was just "meh" for me)
"moving fast" well these type of games have literally no content,they are shallow beatem up type games,that is why they are going for this yet again,low risk,low cost and fast to market.
Now in saying this is going to be more same old crap,i see potential and it bothers me a lot that devs won't go that extra mile to make something grand.I see really nice animations,models,i see fun stuff,but i see NO GAME.
I need to see devs take the hard work that they do accomplish and COMPLETE a AAA game,quit trying to sell me single A gaming,ARPG;'s are single A gaming,fun for a week.
I bet you're a really positive and cheerful person in real life and like to roleplay this dark persona online in private.
Personally, I've clocked in about 1000+ hrs in Diablo 3, 1000+ in PoE, 200+ in Torchlight 2, 500+ in Grim Dawn. They might only be fun for a week to you.. but to real fans of the genre they are games that we'll keep playing and going back to over the next 10 years.
I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but... 1000+ hours in D3? How? I finished the game in around 20-25 and uninstalled. (and while I think I got my RoI back, it was just "meh" for me)
This would depend entirely what you think finish means .. If you mean you finished the stroy on Normal mode then you completed what amounts to basically the Easy-Mode tutorial .. Then the game starts
"FUN" the most ambiguous term used in gaming. Obviously if you keep going back to play,it "might" have some fun value,all depends on the true nature of why someone is playing a game.
D3 for example has leader boards,many on the top of those boards were caught cheating.I would bet anything,if you asked any of those cheats WHY they were playing they would say...because it is fun.Well you do NOT cheat if you are playing for the fun factor,you simply DON'T.
Also what happens to a lot of these so called FUN games if there is no bragging platform,like no ranks or ladders etc etc.Well i can tell you what happens using Hearthstone as an example.First of all i would say 99% are two faced,they say one thing but it is all BS.
So here is what happens,everyone player says the game is great fun,THEN as soon as they hit LEGEND status MANY move on to another account or another game and simply wait for the ranking reset.That tells me it is NOT abou the fun,they are simply motivated<<<big difference from FUN,to attain a higher bragging platform...look at me,i am rank 1.
Those same player will NOT talk about the game in a FUN mannerism,instead they will tell you about THEIR skill and their constant high rank.
Then the SIMPLE question,where is the fun factor in your game you claim is FUN?These ARPG's are not about challenging,it is simply your build and that is ALL,YOU as a player are of little factor.So in essence these ARPG's are not even about YOU or fun,simply your build.
I can tell you the fun i had and why it only lasts a week.The maps were interesting,nice to see ..ONCE.The minions,interesting to see different ones,the FIRST time.Interesting..fun to see how the build works.After that it is all repetitive mindless spam.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Well you do NOT cheat if you are playing for the fun factor,you simply DON'T.
If you consistently look at the world solely through your own eyes you are going to be very confused and very wrong "all the time."
Maybe they find cheating and the whole process of setting up bots, people's reactions "fun."
I remember speaking to a guy who found it fun to write software in order to cheat. He said that he enjoyed getting around the system, finding loopholes, with his own abilities. It was less about playing the game for fun and more about "gaming the game" for fun. His playing was in the context of his hacking. That is what he found fun.
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Well you do NOT cheat if you are playing for the fun factor,you simply DON'T.
If you consistently look at the world solely through your own eyes you are going to be very confused and very wrong "all the time."
Maybe they find cheating and the whole process of setting up bots, people's reactions "fun."
I remember speaking to a guy who found it fun to write software in order to cheat. He said that he enjoyed getting around the system, finding loopholes, with his own abilities. It was less about playing the game for fun and more about "gaming the game" for fun. His playing was in the context of his hacking. That is what he found fun.
That makes sense. I always see people on Steam with VAC Bans from shooters and think to myself what fun is it having a program that makes your bullets never miss, whats the point of playing, whats the fun. But the way you just explained it makes sense. I could understand that .
"moving fast" well these type of games have literally no content,they are shallow beatem up type games,that is why they are going for this yet again,low risk,low cost and fast to market.
Now in saying this is going to be more same old crap,i see potential and it bothers me a lot that devs won't go that extra mile to make something grand.I see really nice animations,models,i see fun stuff,but i see NO GAME.
I need to see devs take the hard work that they do accomplish and COMPLETE a AAA game,quit trying to sell me single A gaming,ARPG;'s are single A gaming,fun for a week.
I bet you're a really positive and cheerful person in real life and like to roleplay this dark persona online in private.
Personally, I've clocked in about 1000+ hrs in Diablo 3, 1000+ in PoE, 200+ in Torchlight 2, 500+ in Grim Dawn. They might only be fun for a week to you.. but to real fans of the genre they are games that we'll keep playing and going back to over the next 10 years.
I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but... 1000+ hours in D3? How? I finished the game in around 20-25 and uninstalled. (and while I think I got my RoI back, it was just "meh" for me)
Can't stop until you have every legendary for every character, completed every achievement, completed every challenge and run so many rifts that you end up in a alternate dimension in real life. Then you escape from the alternate dimension just in time for the next season where you get to do it all again.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
"moving fast" well these type of games have literally no content,they are shallow beatem up type games,that is why they are going for this yet again,low risk,low cost and fast to market.
Now in saying this is going to be more same old crap,i see potential and it bothers me a lot that devs won't go that extra mile to make something grand.I see really nice animations,models,i see fun stuff,but i see NO GAME.
I need to see devs take the hard work that they do accomplish and COMPLETE a AAA game,quit trying to sell me single A gaming,ARPG;'s are single A gaming,fun for a week.
I bet you're a really positive and cheerful person in real life and like to roleplay this dark persona online in private.
Personally, I've clocked in about 1000+ hrs in Diablo 3, 1000+ in PoE, 200+ in Torchlight 2, 500+ in Grim Dawn. They might only be fun for a week to you.. but to real fans of the genre they are games that we'll keep playing and going back to over the next 10 years.
I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but... 1000+ hours in D3? How? I finished the game in around 20-25 and uninstalled. (and while I think I got my RoI back, it was just "meh" for me)
Can't stop until you have every legendary for every character, completed every achievement, completed every challenge and run so many rifts that you end up in a alternate dimension in real life. Then you escape from the alternate dimension just in time for the next season where you get to do it all again.
ARPGs are really for two audiences. The people who love the replayability ARPGs provide, different builds, classes, farming the best equipment, and the people who hit max level once or twice and put it down.
One group of people will think the game was meh, or dislike it, and the other group will probably end up loving it. Neither are right or wrong, just kind of depends what you're looking for.
I'm not sure how much time I have in D3 in total, maybe 300-500 hours. I played it on PC at launch, then PS3, then PS4, and a couple times on PC in between. But PoE is the only ARPG I consistently go back to, and have been since 2011.
I think the vast majority of people who dislike current ARPGs are in the wrong genre, they are all heavily geared towards leagues, seasons and everybody starting out fresh with new builds, trying out tweaked skills and all of that, if you are somebody who wants to play the same character for 10 years like my Druid on WoW, then it's probably not gonna be your thing lol.
I found PoE really hard to get into to start, because the hype was about trying out the new leagues when they launch, and I had no interest in starting over I was mostly an MMO player, but something about new mechanics and the fact everybody is starting out fresh on an even playing field, ect, racing is somewhat a thing, really makes it a really cool experience.
When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
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How many people do you think actually get into alpha and beta games to test? I'm willing to bet it's actually a very small percentage. Most get into them to see what it's like or it's used as a marketing scheme by devs to charge for access to an unfinished game. It's not like it was 8-10 yrs ago when you actually had to fill out an application and then go through an interview to be selected to participate. Those games usually released with far fewer bugs.
I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.
No kidding, and WoW has been going that way for some time now, and what's more surprising is that it blatantly hasn't been working out! Yet they keep pushing their content towards that direction, that to me screams terrible management.
I remember watching my brother playing Diablo 2 a little and that game actually freaked me out lol!
Listen, Im a huge TL2 fan, Love ARPG's , salivating for a new one to play, but something about the gameplay vids of this have left me kind of meh.... With that said i have this funny feeling this is the kind of game that is wayyyyy more fun to play then to watch.
Fingers crossed i get into Alpha lol
Aloha Mr Hand !
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I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but... 1000+ hours in D3? How? I finished the game in around 20-25 and uninstalled. (and while I think I got my RoI back, it was just "meh" for me)
**sad trombone**
Gonna watch my inbox like a hawk.
Obviously if you keep going back to play,it "might" have some fun value,all depends on the true nature of why someone is playing a game.
D3 for example has leader boards,many on the top of those boards were caught cheating.I would bet anything,if you asked any of those cheats WHY they were playing they would say...because it is fun.Well you do NOT cheat if you are playing for the fun factor,you simply DON'T.
Also what happens to a lot of these so called FUN games if there is no bragging platform,like no ranks or ladders etc etc.Well i can tell you what happens using Hearthstone as an example.First of all i would say 99% are two faced,they say one thing but it is all BS.
So here is what happens,everyone player says the game is great fun,THEN as soon as they hit LEGEND status MANY move on to another account or another game and simply wait for the ranking reset.That tells me it is NOT abou the fun,they are simply motivated<<<big difference from FUN,to attain a higher bragging platform...look at me,i am rank 1.
Those same player will NOT talk about the game in a FUN mannerism,instead they will tell you about THEIR skill and their constant high rank.
Then the SIMPLE question,where is the fun factor in your game you claim is FUN?These ARPG's are not about challenging,it is simply your build and that is ALL,YOU as a player are of little factor.So in essence these ARPG's are not even about YOU or fun,simply your build.
I can tell you the fun i had and why it only lasts a week.The maps were interesting,nice to see ..ONCE.The minions,interesting to see different ones,the FIRST time.Interesting..fun to see how the build works.After that it is all repetitive mindless spam.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Aloha Mr Hand !
Aloha Mr Hand !
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Aloha Mr Hand !
One group of people will think the game was meh, or dislike it, and the other group will probably end up loving it. Neither are right or wrong, just kind of depends what you're looking for.
I'm not sure how much time I have in D3 in total, maybe 300-500 hours. I played it on PC at launch, then PS3, then PS4, and a couple times on PC in between. But PoE is the only ARPG I consistently go back to, and have been since 2011.
I think the vast majority of people who dislike current ARPGs are in the wrong genre, they are all heavily geared towards leagues, seasons and everybody starting out fresh with new builds, trying out tweaked skills and all of that, if you are somebody who wants to play the same character for 10 years like my Druid on WoW, then it's probably not gonna be your thing lol.
I found PoE really hard to get into to start, because the hype was about trying out the new leagues when they launch, and I had no interest in starting over I was mostly an MMO player, but something about new mechanics and the fact everybody is starting out fresh on an even playing field, ect, racing is somewhat a thing, really makes it a really cool experience.