Why do ppl say this is worse than AC1??

bozzboy · December 2003

I've neva played either AC1 or AC2, but was just wondering why AC2 has a worse rating than AC1 on the game list?? Why isn't it as good??

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Jape · December 2003

Couple reasons:

1. AC1 players tried AC2 and noticed it is not the same game anymore and didnt like it.
2. AC2 had bad launch. Bugs, No content, etc (that have changed, but its hard (read=impossible) to get customers back if you screw the launch)

AC2 is not worse than AC1, its just different.

I would not listen that much for whiners or scores. Theres 15 day free trial up on AC2 site, so you can try it for free and decide if you like it or not.

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Unknown · December 2003

Originally posted by bozzboy
I've neva played either AC1 or AC2, but was just wondering why AC2 has a worse rating than AC1 on the game list?? Why isn't it as good??

---Rc FrEeK---

1. AC2 held a beta test. A beta test is suppose to be where the game developers invite players to test the game for bugs, bugs, and more bugs. And to listen to suggestions from players.

- NONE of this was done in AC2 beta. If someone treats you like garbage for 6 months in a row, would you give them your $$$$ 4 months later?

2. AC2 has 12,000 or less players. A sucessfull MMORPG must have 100,000 players. A MMORPG can try sliding by with 50,000 players.

3. AC2 is all graphics and eyecandy and nothing else.

4. Would you buy a BRAND NEW car if it had 2 tires, 1 headlight, 1 seat, an AM only radio, no trunk, 1 window? What if the sales man said "how about if we mail you 1 missing part each month?"

All the "new stuff being added to AC2" was suppose to have been there at release. That IS what being a NEW product is suppose to be about.

5. Anyone who plays AC2 is also sending a HORRIBLE message to Turbine, MicroSoft, and the rest of the gaming industry. Players who play AC2 are really saying "Yes, we will give you our hard earned $$$$$ even if you released a 20% finnished NEW product! We really are as gullable as you thought we were!".

If you go into a McDonalds, order 3 large fries, 1 coke, 1 pack of chicken McNuggest. And they just give you 1 coke and say thank you, goodbye. What would you do?

AC2 players need to be smacked for helping Turbine and MicroSoft get away with releasing the most shoddiest "new product" ever released.

6. AC2 has 12,000 or less players. A sucessfull MMORPG must have 100,000 players. A MMORPG can try sliding by with 50,000 players.

Don't waste your $$$ on AC2 unless - you really do enjoy wasting your money and time.

AC1 is far better than AC2. AC1 has 100,000 players. With 50,000 players regularly playing. It meets the definition of a sucessful MMORPG.

Someone once mentioned why doesn't Turbine and MicroSoft simply release more expansions for AC1 the way Variant and SONY keep releasing new expansions for EQ1?

BTW, to this day, no AC2 fanboy will ever tell you how many players play AC2 heheh.

bozzboy · December 2003

Thanks 4 the info guys

I think Im gonna try out Hz neway tho, despite all the bad comments, jus gonna try 4 get bou the 'whiners' lyk jape said

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Lebowski · December 2003

Originally posted by xplororor
Originally posted by bozzboy I've neva played either AC1 or AC2, but was just wondering why AC2 has a worse rating than AC1 on the game list?? Why isn't it as good?? ---Rc FrEeK---1. AC2 held a beta test. A beta test is suppose to be where the game developers invite players to test the game for bugs, bugs, and more bugs. And to listen to suggestions from players.
- NONE of this was done in AC2 beta. If someone treats you like garbage for 6 months in a row, would you give them your $$$$ 4 months later?
2. AC2 has 12,000 or less players. A sucessfull MMORPG must have 100,000 players. A MMORPG can try sliding by with 50,000 players.
3. AC2 is all graphics and eyecandy and nothing else.
4. Would you buy a BRAND NEW car if it had 2 tires, 1 headlight, 1 seat, an AM only radio, no trunk, 1 window? What if the sales man said "how about if we mail you 1 missing part each month?"
All the "new stuff being added to AC2" was suppose to have been there at release. That IS what being a NEW product is suppose to be about.
5. Anyone who plays AC2 is also sending a HORRIBLE message to Turbine, MicroSoft, and the rest of the gaming industry. Players who play AC2 are really saying "Yes, we will give you our hard earned $$$$$ even if you released a 20% finnished NEW product! We really are as gullable as you thought we were!".
If you go into a McDonalds, order 3 large fries, 1 coke, 1 pack of chicken McNuggest. And they just give you 1 coke and say thank you, goodbye. What would you do?
AC2 players need to be smacked for helping Turbine and MicroSoft get away with releasing the most shoddiest "new product" ever released.
6. AC2 has 12,000 or less players. A sucessfull MMORPG must have 100,000 players. A MMORPG can try sliding by with 50,000 players.
Don't waste your $$$ on AC2 unless - you really do enjoy wasting your money and time.
AC1 is far better than AC2. AC1 has 100,000 players. With 50,000 players regularly playing. It meets the definition of a sucessful MMORPG.
Someone once mentioned why doesn't Turbine and MicroSoft simply release more expansions for AC1 the way Variant and SONY keep releasing new expansions for EQ1?
BTW, to this day, no AC2 fanboy will ever tell you how many players play AC2 heheh.

Damn, you're annoying. Are you actually being paid to criticise AC2? If only you were discussing pro-s and contra-s in a sensible way. But instead you just post your same ideas in every possible AC2 topic.

And please answer me one question; Did you actively play AC2 over last 3 months?

When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

Unknown · December 2003

Originally posted by Lebowski

Originally posted by xplororor

Originally posted by bozzboy I've neva played either AC1 or AC2, but was just wondering why AC2 has a worse rating than AC1 on the game list?? Why isn't it as good??
---Rc FrEeK---
1. AC2 held a beta test. A beta test is suppose to be where the game developers invite players to test the game for bugs, bugs, and more bugs. And to listen to suggestions from players.
- NONE of this was done in AC2 beta. If someone treats you like garbage for 6 months in a row, would you give them your $$$$ 4 months later?
2. AC2 has 12,000 or less players. A sucessfull MMORPG must have 100,000 players. A MMORPG can try sliding by with 50,000 players.
3. AC2 is all graphics and eyecandy and nothing else.
4. Would you buy a BRAND NEW car if it had 2 tires, 1 headlight, 1 seat, an AM only radio, no trunk, 1 window? What if the sales man said "how about if we mail you 1 missing part each month?"
All the "new stuff being added to AC2" was suppose to have been there at release. That IS what being a NEW product is suppose to be about.
5. Anyone who plays AC2 is also sending a HORRIBLE message to Turbine, MicroSoft, and the rest of the gaming industry. Players who play AC2 are really saying "Yes, we will give you our hard earned $$$$$ even if you released a 20% finnished NEW product! We really are as gullable as you thought we were!".
If you go into a McDonalds, order 3 large fries, 1 coke, 1 pack of chicken McNuggest. And they just give you 1 coke and say thank you, goodbye. What would you do?
AC2 players need to be smacked for helping Turbine and MicroSoft get away with releasing the most shoddiest "new product" ever released.
6. AC2 has 12,000 or less players. A sucessfull MMORPG must have 100,000 players. A MMORPG can try sliding by with 50,000 players.
Don't waste your $$$ on AC2 unless - you really do enjoy wasting your money and time.
AC1 is far better than AC2. AC1 has 100,000 players. With 50,000 players regularly playing. It meets the definition of a sucessful MMORPG.
Someone once mentioned why doesn't Turbine and MicroSoft simply release more expansions for AC1 the way Variant and SONY keep releasing new expansions for EQ1?
BTW, to this day, no AC2 fanboy will ever tell you how many players play AC2 heheh.

Damn, you're annoying. Are you actually being paid to criticise AC2? If only you were discussing pro-s and contra-s in a sensible way. But instead you just post your same ideas in every possible AC2 topic.

And please answer me one question; Did you actively play AC2 over last 3 months?

When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

I listed 6 points, point by point.

Please tell me which one of my 6 points is not true?

Instead you resort to name calling. If you automatically think anyone is being paid to criticize AC2 if they list bad things about it......... then are you, or anyone else being automatically paid by Turbine and MicroSoft if they list anything good about AC2?

And please answer me one question; Did you actively play AC2 over the last 3 months?

I played AC2 from October 2002 to the end of beta. And from release until May 2003. We are now in December 2003. So no, I have not actively played AC2 over the last 3 months.

Now please answer me one question - as of right now, December 2003, how many accounts does AC2 have?

Jape · December 2003

1. AC2 held a beta test. A beta test is suppose to be where the game developers invite players to test the game for bugs, bugs, and more bugs. And to listen to suggestions from players.
- NONE of this was done in AC2 beta. If someone treats you like garbage for 6 months in a row, would you give them your $$$$ 4 months later?

Its true that MS/T messed up royally with AC2 beta. And because of beta i didnt play AC2 when it went live. But year later i tested the free trial and bought the game.

2. AC2 has 12,000 or less players. A sucessfull MMORPG must have 100,000 players. A MMORPG can try sliding by with 50,000 players.

Number of players do not make great games. EQ has insane amounts of subscribers but game is 100% garbage.. And same pretty much goes with daoc and swg..

In other words: if million flies like dung, i dont have to.

3. AC2 is all graphics and eyecandy and nothing else.

Wrong.

4. Would you buy a BRAND NEW car if it had 2 tires, 1 headlight, 1 seat, an AM only radio, no trunk, 1 window? What if the sales man said "how about if we mail you 1 missing part each month?"
All the "new stuff being added to AC2" was suppose to have been there at release. That IS what being a NEW product is suppose to be about.

Name one MOG that is 100% finished when it goes live. Yes.. You forgot to mention that there is no such thing.

But as i said, AC2 had crappy launch. And that is the reason there still are tons of players whining on boards that AC2 sucks.

AC2 players need to be smacked for helping Turbine and MicroSoft get away with releasing the most shoddiest "new product" ever released.

Yeah. And people like you need to be smacked for being an idiot. If you dont like the product. Dont play. Simple as that.

You propably think you are doing a great favor to MOG players by yelling that "AC2 sucks, dont play!", buy only thing you achieve is label yourself as a whiner.

6. AC2 has 12,000 or less players. A sucessfull MMORPG must have 100,000 players. A MMORPG can try sliding by with 50,000 players.

You posted this 2 times, just in case someone might miss it?

BTW, to this day, no AC2 fanboy will ever tell you how many players play AC2 heheh.

Im not a fanboi, so ill just tell it to everyone. Prime time theres around 800 players per white server (2 servers). And lot less on PvP servers.

But as i said earlier, i dont rate games by number of players they have. If im having fun, game is good. Simple as that.

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bozzboy · December 2003

Sorry guys neva ment 2 start ne arguments was just curious bou why AC2 is ranked worse than AC1, and Im sure a few other ppl would lyk 2 know aswell.

Is there a free trial for either AC or AC2 by ne chance?

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Lebowski · December 2003

Yes, there is 14 day free trial of AC2. You don't need credit card for that. My advise is to try it out.

When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

Lebowski · December 2003

For xploror:

I agree with everything Jape wrote about your post. Btw, thanx Jape, for sparing me a lot of typing

Xploror said that he stopped playing in May 2003. Well I started playing on June 2003 and a lot has changed since then. The most important things: level cap raised from 50 to 150, hero rating for high lvl players, new hero skills, new island with 3 KvK zones, 3 smaller islands with kingdom related monsters, all classes have become balanced, no more class nerfes, many new quests... And many more things are planned for near future. So Xploror's opinion of the game is no longer relevant. There has been simply too many changes from the time he stopped playing.

When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

Unknown · December 2003

Originally posted by Lebowski

For xploror:
I agree with everything Jape wrote about your post. Btw, thanx Jape, for sparing me a lot of typing
Xploror said that he stopped playing in May 2003. Well I started playing on June 2003 and a lot has changed since then. The most important things: level cap raised from 50 to 150, hero rating for high lvl players, new hero skills, new island with 3 KvK zones, 3 smaller islands with kingdom related monsters, all classes have become balanced, no more class nerfes, many new quests... And many more things are planned for near future. So Xploror's opinion of the game is no longer relevant. There has been simply too many changes from the time he stopped playing.
When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

1. The most important thing is AC2 has 12,000 players when I stopped playing.

2. According to one of the above posters, it now has LESS than that amount. You say it has gotten better. The numbers of players has gone down even further? What does Mr. Reality say?

3. BTW, what is going on right now in AC2 had been predicted by me, and loads of other beta testers.

That the game would indeed gradually get better with the passing of time. But by then it would be too late. Other MMORPGs are either released, or about to be -

WoW, EQ2, LotR, Horizons, and many, many, many, more.

Lebowski · December 2003

OK, this is getting pointless. I'm saying that AC2 is good, you're saying it has low population. And we're just messing up the topic. So let's stop.

If anyone has any questions about game I'll be happy to answer them.

When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

Jape · December 2003

1. The most important thing is AC2 has 12,000 players when I stopped playing.

Sorry, but your logic escapes me.

Atleast i dont give a rats ass if game has 1k or 1M subscribers. If im having fun is the only argument i base my decisions on.

2. According to one of the above posters, it now has LESS than that amount. You say it has gotten better. The numbers of players has gone down even further? What does Mr. Reality say?

if AC2 has 2000ish players online at prime time, doesnt mean it has 2000 subscribers. So where did i say ac2 has less players?

If there is 2k players online at prime time. That means there propably is around 20k active accounts.

But as i said, if im having fun, game is good and worth playing. I dont decide if game is good or bad based on number of players.

3. BTW, what is going on right now in AC2 had been predicted by me, and loads of other beta testers.

You dont have to be genius to predict that. As i said earlier, if game has crappy launch, its next to impossible to get customers back.

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Ultium · December 2003

Xpl - your numbers are dated. As of a few weeks ago, ACII had 22,000. Sure, the number is still low, but it is steadily increasing.

bozzboy · December 2003

Originally posted by Lebowski

Yes, there is 14 day free trial of AC2. You don't need credit card for that. My advise is to try it out.

Any idea where I can find this? looked in a couple of places and no sign of it. Also does the game require quite a good comp?

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Jape · December 2003

Offical site:
http://www.microsoftgameinsider.com/AC2/freetrial.htm

It requires use of fileplanet though.

Heres another (prolly better) one:
http://www.ferrago.com/downloads/file/127

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Lebowski · December 2003

Originally posted by bozzboy
Originally posted by Lebowski
Yes, there is 14 day free trial of AC2. You don't need credit card for that. My advise is to try it out. Any idea where I can find this? looked in a couple of places and no sign of it. Also does the game require quite a good comp?---Rc FrEeK---

Jape already gave you links.

About computer requirements: you have many settings to adjust so I think you'll be able to make it run on your computer. Minimum requirements are stated on official homepage.

When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

Unknown · December 2003

Originally posted by Ultium

Xpl - your numbers are dated. As of a few weeks ago, ACII had 22,000. Sure, the number is still low, but it is steadily increasing.

I have to ask, where did you get those numbers from?

This way my numbers won't be dated.

Rleab · December 2003

well i played in june of '03 and had a very good time game was good but not yet meeting the bar.I only quit because A)im one of those people who like to be social and for as big as AC2 world is 800 prime time is kinda low for me and B)The fact that they basicly streamed the whole world together and didnt use zone lines and such (outside of maybe 1-5 dungeons) created lag for me even when back in june they hadnt yet conjoined the servers.That meant that i lagged even when only 70 people were on.

Well if it has gotten beter then go for it and buy. (EDIT: or try it out )

And as for Xpl:You are only PARTLY (keyword) correct higher number attract more players...more players like me who like spending their time talking and hunting.

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Unknown · January 2004

Ultium
you STILL haven't told me where you got your new 'updated' numbers about AC2.

What's the matter? Afraid I'll find out they are false?

Until you can provide me with the source of your numbers, I'm going to have to stick with saying

AC2 has only 12k accounts.

Which I got from the Official AC2 forums, and from the game itself when it listed exactly how many players were playing.

Lebowski · January 2004

Xploror, AC2 has 21 active accounts. Will you stop nagging now?

When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

Unknown · January 2004

Originally posted by Lebowski

Xploror, AC2 has 21 active accounts. Will you stop nagging now?
When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

I want to know the source of your numbers dangnabbit! LOL.

Out of all the AC2 'fans' here, only 2 have now posted what they claim are the amount of accounts AC2 has. The guy on the page before this one who says less than 30k. And now you who says exactly

21 accounts.

But non will tell where they get their numbers from.

So I'm stuck with using 12,000 accounts since that's what the AC2 game itself showed, and the Official AC2 site and forums showed.

(Another item, would ya believe AC2 had trouble filling up its servers to stress test them during beta? Even after giving away thousands of free beta CD's in the back of Computer Gamming Magazine!)

Lebowski · January 2004

Damn, still going on about number of active accounts. My source was stepmother of the daughter whose real mother is 2nd cousin of the wife of the brother of chief developer at Turbine

When life tastes like lemmon, take tequila and salt.

Entico · January 2004

Asheron's Call 2 was very anticipated by most of the original AC players. It turned out to be so very different that AC and most of ACers could not take it. Completely different than AC fighting model, more compact world, different character development.

AC2 have very litle advertisment MS doesnt care much about new title which is a real shame. Start was far from flawless game was ridded with bugs, profesions were not balanced and there was very litle high lvl content. Most of those problems is solved by now and AC2 is a really good game atm.

It's hard to compare AC and AC2, one is 4 years old one is year old. Both are good and both really shine compared to "big" titles like EQ or SWG. They have interesting lore, lots of quests, static content (my biggest grief with SWG, random missions aka fed-ex missions = booooooring), good comunity.

Both are worth trying, if you comp can run it try AC2 if not try AC. AC however is getting old, lots of ppl reached max lvl most of new content is geared towards high lvl players but amount of low and mid lvl comtent is still amazing and can provide hours of fun.

Unknown · January 2004

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Originally posted by Entico

""""Asheron's Call 2 was very anticipated by most of the original AC players. It turned out to be so very different that AC and most of ACers could not take it. Completely different than AC fighting model, more compact world, different character development. """"

Only the AC1 players theirselves know for sure why they didn't like AC2. Base on what they posted in the AC2 beta forms, and later after release, their reasons do not agree with what you think is the reason why they did not like AC2.

"""""AC2 have very litle advertisment MS doesnt care much about new title which is a real shame. """"

LOL, very incorrect.

AC2 got a cover story on one of the most mainstream computer magazines. It also had 2 page ads in every gaming magazine. The Ad itself is proof of how NOT to make an ad aka the marketing agency needs a lesson in how to properly market products.

The 2 page ad showed very little of the game graphics. It was mostly taken up by a picture of a 30 something nerdy looking white guy, with a shaggy mop haircut. He's at work in a cubicle all alone by himself. AKA everyone at his job left work because they have a life and he doesn't want to go home? Because his life sucks that badly? At least play AC2 at home if work is over heheh.

Behind him, looking through the window is a AC2 dragon.

"""Start was far from flawless game was ridded with bugs, profesions were not balanced and there was very litle high lvl content. Most of those problems is solved by now and AC2 is a really good game atm. """"

The start is what matters because all those Thousands of lost players are not coming back. And they will use word of mouth advertising relating their experiences. Also, 1 year after release, AC2 is still no where near having 100k accounts aka becoming a financial success.

""""It's hard to compare AC and AC2, one is 4 years old one is year old. Both are good and both really shine compared to "big" titles like EQ or SWG. They have interesting lore, lots of quests, static content""""

No it is extreemly easy to compare AC to AC2. One is 4 years old and was on track to reaching 100k accounts 1yr after release. It is a bona fid financially sucessfull MMORPG. It has broken even. It has turned a true profit. The 4yr old game STILL has roughly 100k accounts.

The other is 1yrs old and is no where near reaching 100k accounts aka becomeing financially successfull. The other has very little that is different from the first one - except better graphics. At release it was worse than AC.

""""Both are worth trying, if you comp can run it try AC2 if not try AC. AC however is getting old, lots of ppl reached max lvl most of new content is geared towards high lvl players but amount of low and mid lvl comtent is still amazing and can provide hours of fun. """""

I agree AC is worth trying. And even worth paying for. It is more skill based than level based, which is rare in the MMORPG industry. I agree AC2 is worth trying - for the free trial. Then it's up to the player if they really want to continue playing and paying for it - even though it is not a financially successfull game. And at it's current status, not even coming close to ever being financially successfull aka reaching 100k accounts.

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Entico · January 2004

Originally posted by xplororor
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Originally posted by Entico

Asheron's Call 2 was very anticipated by most of the original AC players. It turned out to be so very different that AC and most of ACers could not take it. Completely different than AC fighting model, more compact world, different character development.

Only the AC1 players theirselves know for sure why they didn't like AC2. Base on what they posted in the AC2 beta forms, and later after release, their reasons do not agree with what you think is the reason why they did not like AC2.

As a formal AC player (started feb 2000 and canceled subscription 2 months ago) and active AC2 beta tester I am aware what was the biggest issue for AC player. Biggest issue was fighting, fighting model in AC2 is completely different than AC. Some people at first said its dumbed down, require no skill etc etc. Problem is that in AC2 fighting is skill based, in AC about 30% of fighting was "twitch" based and about 70% was based on char stats and skills. AC2 took different approach, there is no need for "twitch" while fighting, instead player has to use strategy and cooperate with other players when fighting demanding opponents. We still have about 70% fight based on player lvl and his skills remaining 30% depends on decisions player makes during fight.

I personally love fighting model in AC and still think its superior to this one in AC2 but as I said AC2 is a whole new game.

Second most important issue was character development, AC players loved theis char stats and loved showing them off. In AC2 you cant see other char stats skills when you ID him. You can not raise attributes to affect all your skills (or at least a few) at once. All you can do in AC2 is to train and raise skills. While this model seems to be more basic on the first look it gets alot more interesting on higher levels when you get specialized skills (and now hero skills). Every character can be different, every char can be shaped to suite ones gameplpay style.

Third biggest issue was size of the world,AC2 wold is smalled compared to AC!? Why!? I still agree this was a big mistake, smaller world and more portals, add to it mounts and you can get from A to B in 2 mins regardless where A and B are in the world, I think it was a mistake.

AC2 have very litle advertisment MS doesnt care much about new title which is a real shame.

LOL, very incorrect.

AC2 got a cover story on one of the most mainstream computer magazines. It also had 2 page ads in every gaming magazine. The Ad itself is proof of how NOT to make an ad aka the marketing agency needs a lesson in how to properly market products.

AC2 was advertised for ONE month. Thats it, after one month all ads were gone, no banners on popular game sites, no big ads in popular game magazines. You can still find banners of EQ on some game sites, SOE spenting big bucks advertising their products, 2 years ago i signed for one month free trial in EQ, 2 weeks ago i got email that my acc was reinstated lol. Ad campaign was smaller than any other major MMORPG out there.

The 2 page ad showed very little of the game graphics. It was mostly taken up by a picture of a 30 something nerdy looking white guy, with a shaggy mop haircut. He's at work in a cubicle all alone by himself. AKA everyone at his job left work because they have a life and he doesn't want to go home? Because his life sucks that badly? At least play AC2 at home if work is over heheh.

Behind him, looking through the window is a AC2 dragon.

And besides there wasnt much, it was bad campaign as you noticed.

Start was far from flawless game was ridded with bugs, profesions were not balanced and there was very litle high lvl content. Most of those problems is solved by now and AC2 is a really good game atm.

The start is what matters because all those Thousands of lost players are not coming back. And they will use word of mouth advertising relating their experiences. Also, 1 year after release, AC2 is still no where near having 100k accounts aka becoming a financial success.

AC2 is financial success for very different reasons. There is another thread on those forums covering those reasons.

It's hard to compare AC and AC2, one is 4 years old one is year old. Both are good and both really shine compared to "big" titles like EQ or SWG. They have interesting lore, lots of quests, static content

No it is extreemly easy to compare AC to AC2. One is 4 years old and was on track to reaching 100k accounts 1yr after release. It is a bona fid financially sucessfull MMORPG. It has broken even. It has turned a true profit. The 4yr old game STILL has roughly 100k accounts.

The other is 1yrs old and is no where near reaching 100k accounts aka becomeing financially successfull. The other has very little that is different from the first one - except better graphics. At release it was worse than AC.

Its still silly comparing them 2, both are completely different, aimed towards different type of player, relased in different MMORPG "era". AC had 4 years to produce content and polish bugs. So I think you can not compare those 2 products. They arent better or worse, one had better publicity and launch other one had worse publicity and launch. Thats where comparision ends.

Both are worth trying, if you comp can run it try AC2 if not try AC. AC however is getting old, lots of ppl reached max lvl most of new content is geared towards high lvl players but amount of low and mid lvl comtent is still amazing and can provide hours of fun.

I agree AC is worth trying. And even worth paying for. It is more skill based than level based, which is rare in the MMORPG industry. I agree AC2 is worth trying - for the free trial. Then it's up to the player if they really want to continue playing and paying for it - even though it is not a financially successfull game. And at it's current status, not even coming close to ever being financially successfull aka reaching 100k accounts.

I dont really understand the point you trying to make here:

"Then it's up to the player if they really want to continue playing and paying for it - even though it is not a financially successfull game."

Are you trying to say that only games worth playing are those who have huge financial success? Is in your opinion bigger financial success = game is more worth playing? Thats one of dumbest statements I've ever seen.

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And besides, like it or not, people do try to "win" massively multiplayer RPGs. The rules of engagement are something like this:
* If there is a status bar, make it grow bigger
* If there is a number, make it higher
* If it moves, either get a mission from it or kill it

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