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How can gamesmakers claim this is revolutionary?

HocheteHochete Member CommonPosts: 1,210
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CRUSADE is a revolutionary fantasy-based MMORPG that allows thousands of people
to play together in a virtual world that features multiple races, powerful weapons and armor,
deadly magic, epic quests, ancient places to discover, the utilization of detailed
tradeskills, and more."

This was taken directly from the official 'Crusade' website. I got there via the news forum while bored at work. The MMO itself looks crap, made by the same guy that did Horizonz (asiff thats something to brag about).

Anyway, what got me was this opening paragraph. How can gamesmakers repeatedly claim their games are 'revolutionary'? When they are clearly not, isn't there some kind of law against it? The number of aweful MMO's being released, each claiming to be revolutionary in some way, none succeeding, is quite scarey! When will gamesmakers realise they are talking absolute bollocks? When will they realise they are basing their games on games that are beginning to fail?

We can send a man to the moon, why can't we create a FUN mmo?!


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  • RattrapRattrap Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,599
    The only revolutionary MMO was Ultima Online , it was only spiraling down since than.

    And really - look at the list of upcoming MMO's they are all trying their best to be as thier predecesors....

    Vanguard = EQ

    WAR = WoW




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  • ForgottenKnightForgottenKnight Member UncommonPosts: 69
    The game makers think they are godlike, we need a martyr to change stuff around here!

  • KarealKareal Member Posts: 17


    Originally posted by Hohbein
    "
    CRUSADE is a revolutionary fantasy-based MMORPG that allows thousands of people
    to play together in a virtual world that features multiple races, powerful weapons and armor,
    deadly magic, epic quests, ancient places to discover, the utilization of detailed
    tradeskills, and more."

    This was taken directly from the official 'Crusade' website. I got there via the news forum while bored at work. The MMO itself looks crap, made by the same guy that did Horizonz (asiff thats something to brag about).

    Anyway, what got me was this opening paragraph. How can gamesmakers repeatedly claim their games are 'revolutionary'? When they are clearly not, isn't there some kind of law against it? The number of aweful MMO's being released, each claiming to be revolutionary in some way, none succeeding, is quite scarey! When will gamesmakers realise they are talking absolute bollocks? When will they realise they are basing their games on games that are beginning to fail?

    We can send a man to the moon, why can't we create a FUN mmo?!




    Its called Marketing and Investors.... nobody would give a shit if they said we're making WoW clone #874

    And yes there is a thing called False Advertising but throw ONE 'revolutionary'(i.e. new) feature into the game and you're completly safe from that one. Despite its major issues Horizons was pretty different from the run of the mill MMO and I'm hoping this one might have an interesting piece somewhere in it too.

    Yes I know false advertising doesn't actually apply here anyway.

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  • VespasianVespasian Member Posts: 125

    Not every game maker :p

    Also some MMO's and new commers/indie groups feel real pressured to say flashy things to make up for areas they lack in or just to draw the crowd of players their way.  Trust me sometime I get tempted to say something flashy but at the end of the day I avoid it.

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  • kmilnerkmilner Member Posts: 35



    Originally posted by Hohbein
    We can send a man to the moon, why can't we create a FUN mmo?!


    I'm not really sure that we can send a man to the moon anymore either... :(

  • LeesusLeesus Member Posts: 183
    Ratttrap I  U.




  • katriellkatriell Member UncommonPosts: 977

    The only truly different MMO was Uru Live...which lives on in a way as Until Uru.

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  • DowieDowie Member Posts: 280


    Originally posted by Rattrap

    WAR = WoW






    And what are you basing that on? the grapics?! have you even read about the game?
  • fredrik1fredrik1 Member Posts: 144

    well, the name is new... ::::20::

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  • NeanderthalNeanderthal Member RarePosts: 1,861

    Of course devs are going to brag about their games.  They want to make money right?  Can you imagine what it would sound like if they were completely honest....

    Welcome to the site of the not so exciting new game Redundancy!  Redundancy is a rehash of everything that came before!  Venture boldy forth into a mediocre 3D world! 

    Seek adventure only to find tedious grinding!

    Play one of 12 races and 14 classes...some of which we renamed to make you think we did something different!

    Enjoy a fully player controlled economy (by which we mean you can trade your virtual trinkets with each other).

    Be an anonymous crafter toiling away in obscurity to make junk items that nobody wants, knowing all the while that your crafting is nothing more than a money sink!

    Aspire to legendary status by enduring horrifically long and boring raids at the endgame!  In Redundancy only the greatest legendary characters can sit on their bed-sore ridden behinds for 10 hours straight while following a herd of like minded players led by a necessarily over-bearing, obsesive, control freak who screams orders at them with his shrill ten year old voice!  Do YOU have what it takes to be a legend?

    Watch as we destroy the few things you do like about the game with each added expansion!

    Yes, in Redundancy you'll do it all again!  And fear not!  Plans are already in place to begin development of Redundancy II.  So when you finally cancel your subscription in frustration and despair we will be ready to try to suck you into another boring, piece of crap game.

  • XpheyelXpheyel Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 704

    Could someone actually link us to this game so we can maybe find out what they think makes it revolutionary?

    Either way, its just a buzz word. The "unique/new" hook in advertising. I don't think there is any point in getting riled up about it.

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  • BissrokBissrok Member Posts: 1,002
    The only original MMOs I've seen have been SWG (until they tried to make it into a FPS version of WoW... and failed horribly) and The Chronicle.

  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253


    Originally posted by Rattrap
    The only revolutionary MMO was Ultima Online , it was only spiraling down since then.



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  • VexinVexin Member Posts: 297


    Originally posted by Neanderthal

    Of course devs are going to brag about their games.  They want to make money right?  Can you imagine what it would sound like if they were completely honest....
    Welcome to the site of the not so exciting new game Redundancy!  Redundancy is a rehash of everything that came before!  Venture boldy forth into a mediocre 3D world! 
    Seek adventure only to find tedious grinding!
    Play one of 12 races and 14 classes...some of which we renamed to make you think we did something different!
    Enjoy a fully player controlled economy (by which we mean you can trade your virtual trinkets with each other).
    Be an anonymous crafter toiling away in obscurity to make junk items that nobody wants, knowing all the while that your crafting is nothing more than a money sink!
    Aspire to legendary status by enduring horrifically long and boring raids at the endgame!  In Redundancy only the greatest legendary characters can sit on their bed-sore ridden behinds for 10 hours straight while following a herd of like minded players led by a necessarily over-bearing, obsesive, control freak who screams orders at them with his shrill ten year old voice!  Do YOU have what it takes to be a legend?
    Watch as we destroy the few things you do like about the game with each added expansion!
    Yes, in Redundancy you'll do it all again!  And fear not!  Plans are already in place to begin development of Redundancy II.  So when you finally cancel your subscription in frustration and despair we will be ready to try to suck you into another boring, piece of crap game.


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  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253

    Nice work Neanderthal !

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  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386


    Originally posted by Rattrap
    The only revolutionary MMO was Ultima Online , it was only spiraling down since than.And really - look at the list of upcoming MMO's they are all trying their best to be as thier predecesors....Vanguard = EQWAR = WoW

    Trade Wars... not really an MMO but it was the game the launched MMOs.

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  • HotcellHotcell Member UncommonPosts: 279


    Originally posted by Neanderthal
    Welcome to the site of the not so exciting new game Redundancy!  Redundancy is a rehash of everything that came before!  Venture boldy forth into a mediocre 3D world! 
    Seek adventure only to find tedious grinding!
    Play one of 12 races and 14 classes...some of which we renamed to make you think we did something different!
    Enjoy a fully player controlled economy (by which we mean you can trade your virtual trinkets with each other).
    Be an anonymous crafter toiling away in obscurity to make junk items that nobody wants, knowing all the while that your crafting is nothing more than a money sink!
    Aspire to legendary status by enduring horrifically long and boring raids at the endgame!  In Redundancy only the greatest legendary characters can sit on their bed-sore ridden behinds for 10 hours straight while following a herd of like minded players led by a necessarily over-bearing, obsesive, control freak who screams orders at them with his shrill ten year old voice!  Do YOU have what it takes to be a legend?
    Watch as we destroy the few things you do like about the game with each added expansion!
    Yes, in Redundancy you'll do it all again!  And fear not!  Plans are already in place to begin development of Redundancy II.  So when you finally cancel your subscription in frustration and despair we will be ready to try to suck you into another boring, piece of crap game.


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  • cornoffcobcornoffcob Member Posts: 860
    wow where can i get this Redundancy game???? sounds like it'll be a blast

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  • katriellkatriell Member UncommonPosts: 977


    Originally posted by papacapjack
    this man speaks the truth, every other game is virtually your run of the mill fantasy
    Except Ryzom. S/he missed Ryzom. ::::02::

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  • HibameHibame Member Posts: 76


    Originally posted by cornoffcob
    wow where can i get this Redundancy game???? sounds like it'll be a blast



    You should check out progress quest its a action packed mmo that has kept me playing I am up to level 61 right now, and play 24/7.

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  • paadepaade Member Posts: 471


    Originally posted by cornoffcob
    wow where can i get this Redundancy game???? sounds like it'll be a blast



    look bit to the left, theres a list. Now pick one.
  • betterWorldbetterWorld Member Posts: 18

    WAR = WoW ?!

    That's new :D

    Rattrap, I suggest u to go to the warhammer site and read about _what_ warhammer was, is and will be. Just 'cause you've seen that orc screenshot, which btw shows an (original) orc, which blizzard copied from games workshop's arts and modells to their pvm fanboi game, don't claim WAR to be WoW. It's in fact totally ... w r o n g.

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  • SimplyMichaeSimplyMichae Member Posts: 86


    Originally posted by Rattrap
    The only revolutionary MMO was Ultima Online , it was only spiraling down since than.And really - look at the list of upcoming MMO's they are all trying their best to be as thier predecesors....Vanguard = EQWAR = WoW

    And I'd almost take a "<insert upcoming MMO> = UO" at this point...

    Revolution be damned.


    Anyway, as far as Crusade's "revolutionary" features go, it's just the same type of self promotion that you would see on any radio and televison commercial, infomercial, or movie trailer. The MMO universe hasn't been exempt from this for a long time.

    The game looks like it's so far from release that all their description says to me is, "We're not entirely sure what this thing's going to be when it hits the ground, but we want to get the word out early. Enjoy some fluffy and nondescript drivel." I didn't go looking very hard for a release date though.

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  • HocheteHochete Member CommonPosts: 1,210

    100% agree that UO was one of the only revolutionary MMO's. however I also think EQ was revolutionary in many ways, so many games have ripped off EQ it's unbeleivable.

    As for WAR = WOW........... wha?! If anything its gonna be like DAoC (as it's made by the same peeps), after reading about it though, it sounds pretty unique. WAR is possibly one of the only MMO's i'm truely looking forward to at the moment, i've got great confidence in it being both unique and exciting!

    And yea, i guess people are right, 'revolutionary' is just a buzz word to catch stupid people off guard. It just pisses me off when every new game, no matter how entirely identical to every other MMO out there, claims it's completely unique and revolutionary......... lies i tell you, LIES!

    I reckon the MMORPG fan base should club together and write our own MMO :( it'd own hard.

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