Not a big fan of exclusives. Kinda wish they’d just sell it wherever people prefer to purchase. It’s not like I’m asking for a Whopper at McDonalds or some shit.
On that same idea though, it's not really an exclusive. We're talking about a store.. not even much of a platform change.
This is asking for a whopper at mcdonalds. If you want a whopper, you just go there and get it.
In my case, both restaurants are about the same distance. I go where the item is that i want, and in this case, people are splitting hairs.
They aren't asking you to buy a new console, they aren't asking you to pay a monthly fee or subscribe to a service.
From day 1 as a gamer, which started decades ago, my simple philosophy was to play the games I want to play no matter where they are. That meant playing zelda on the NES and it meant going to the arcade to play Children of the Atom, or buying a sega dreamcast because I loved Power Stone.
I feel bad that people (not you pale) would prefer not to play something that interests them because it's on a different platform (or a different STORE in this case)
My wife was asking what I was arguing about online and she got invested and this is how I explained it to her as well. That people are acting like they have to buy a brand new console when in reality they just have to download a free launcher.
However, I do understand why people are angry if all they having is a PC and the Epic Games Store doesn't work on it.
I don't think its because games don't work on the Epic Store, the problem is the dodgy spyware, and what they are doing with the information they are gathering. Personally i wouldn't touch Epic Gamestore with a bargepole until its confirmed that they have stopped doing things like that. I don't have access to Windows Store because i don't have Win10, so it looks to me like i will have to go with option 3, never thought i would ever chose PB to supply a game, but it looks like the only 2 options are not buy the game, or not pay for the game.
Not a big fan of exclusives. Kinda wish they’d just sell it wherever people prefer to purchase. It’s not like I’m asking for a Whopper at McDonalds or some shit.
On that same idea though, it's not really an exclusive. We're talking about a store.. not even much of a platform change.
This is asking for a whopper at mcdonalds. If you want a whopper, you just go there and get it.
In my case, both restaurants are about the same distance. I go where the item is that i want, and in this case, people are splitting hairs.
They aren't asking you to buy a new console, they aren't asking you to pay a monthly fee or subscribe to a service.
From day 1 as a gamer, which started decades ago, my simple philosophy was to play the games I want to play no matter where they are. That meant playing zelda on the NES and it meant going to the arcade to play Children of the Atom, or buying a sega dreamcast because I loved Power Stone.
I feel bad that people (not you pale) would prefer not to play something that interests them because it's on a different platform (or a different STORE in this case)
My wife was asking what I was arguing about online and she got invested and this is how I explained it to her as well. That people are acting like they have to buy a brand new console when in reality they just have to download a free launcher.
However, I do understand why people are angry if all they having is a PC and the Epic Games Store doesn't work on it.
To be fair my issue is less that I have to download a free launcher for the game and more I have to download a free unsecure storefront. Epic had a simple exploit run rampant for months that could've been fixed with something as simple as a confirmation message that required you to reinput credit card details before it allowed a purchase. Instead, people could brute force accounts (since there wasn't an IP restriction on attempts at the time) and charge account upgrades onto a person's credit card without any issue. Several friends of mine ended up with $500 charges on their credit cards because a very simple issue. Then of course there's the scraping issue where they are found with their hand in the cookie jar with accessing files they shouldn't have and their deflection of "Well, everyone does it!" Simply put, I don't feel safe with my information using anything epic makes, and therefore I absolutely will not use anything that Epic makes.
Some people are concerned with having to download a new launcher. Most peoples concerns are along the lines of "Look at all of the unsecure data floating around and shady things Epic is doing on the side, and now we're running into situations where we may have to input our information into it to play major titles." To make a related example to the store: Normal Store has a product from Company A called "AwesomeProduct W". Company A announces that they are going to be releasing "AwesomeProduct X." Normal Store says that it will have it. But then a new store opens in an alleyway with bright neon signs pointing at it, and a security camera looking dead center on the pin pad for the card swiper. Then Company A announces that "AwesomeProduct X is going to be exclusive to Alleyway Store for a year." That's where a good portion of us are at. At least that's how I feel.
As far as the definition of competition in the now twice quoted post... There was competition. Epic won and secured the business by offering the most favorable terms. You're corrected.
But that's competition that favors the gaming industry NOT THE CONSUMER/GAMER. Are you a dev, a shareholder , Are you CEO of a studio ?..... . That's healthy competition for the people that make the game not the one's buying it.
This is why it baffles me when people go around on these message boards saying competition for Steam is good, HOW ? Explain it to me . Give me a bunch of examples how Epic & Orgin and alllll the other platforms out there are going to make my gaming experience better and put more money for games in MY POCKET.
Maybe you aren’t their audience? I can not think of a single company that has JeffSpicoli on their requirements list when creating products. And since they are doing fine they really don’t need to I guess. The larger populace is perfectly fine with all of this.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
It's like expecting every product on the planet to be sold at every store. It's not how it's done in "the real world" so why should it be done on the virtual one?
I can't even... It is like every major release game is sold at every store that sells games. That IS how it's done in the real world...
Maybe SBford lives outside the US? I dunno how it works outside the US
At least here in the US. I can go to walmart, bestbuy, gamestop, target or many other retailers and find the latest game to buy at the store. That doesn't of course include all the indie games that get put on steam, but for major releases can go to any store pretty much to find games. Obviously not grocery stores cause thats just dumb if someone expects to find video games at a grocery store lol, but all the general retailer stores you can find electronics and games.
But if person lives in europe or some place else, maybe it works differently for them.
Its a false comparison though. The store is you PC with an internet connection, the Launcher is the department where to get your game. What you are asking for is that every single department in the store sells everything. Which is rather silly.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Not a big fan of exclusives. Kinda wish they’d just sell it wherever people prefer to purchase. It’s not like I’m asking for a Whopper at McDonalds or some shit.
On that same idea though, it's not really an exclusive. We're talking about a store.. not even much of a platform change.
This is asking for a whopper at mcdonalds. If you want a whopper, you just go there and get it.
In my case, both restaurants are about the same distance. I go where the item is that i want, and in this case, people are splitting hairs.
They aren't asking you to buy a new console, they aren't asking you to pay a monthly fee or subscribe to a service.
From day 1 as a gamer, which started decades ago, my simple philosophy was to play the games I want to play no matter where they are. That meant playing zelda on the NES and it meant going to the arcade to play Children of the Atom, or buying a sega dreamcast because I loved Power Stone.
I feel bad that people (not you pale) would prefer not to play something that interests them because it's on a different platform (or a different STORE in this case)
My wife was asking what I was arguing about online and she got invested and this is how I explained it to her as well. That people are acting like they have to buy a brand new console when in reality they just have to download a free launcher.
However, I do understand why people are angry if all they having is a PC and the Epic Games Store doesn't work on it.
I don't think its because games don't work on the Epic Store, the problem is the dodgy spyware, and what they are doing with the information they are gathering. Personally i wouldn't touch Epic Gamestore with a bargepole until its confirmed that they have stopped doing things like that. I don't have access to Windows Store because i don't have Win10, so it looks to me like i will have to go with option 3, never thought i would ever chose PB to supply a game, but it looks like the only 2 options are not buy the game, or not buy the game.
It's funny because I don't have steam for that reason either. When I first got into gaming I looked into steam and they are just as shady. Plus I can't support anyone who allows hate games on there platform without removing them. My gaming library is very limited because of this because I buy off of GOG. People want to act like steam is the greatest but like someone said earlier in this forum that just a year ago steam was in trouble for credit card info leaking.
Also looking into Tencent they own a lot of things now a days. Including Riot Games.
Steam is way less 'nosey' these days, and more consumer friendly, something that Epic Games Store definitely isn't, the number of things that Epic Games store has been found to be doing is just crazy, they have said that they are going to stop doing it, but i will believe that when i see it, however it would be an acceptable alternative if the game was at least available on GOG, afaik they haven't engaged in anything nearly as dodgy.
This game is using Unreal Engine. Was a deal made so they can only use their engine if they sell exclusive on their shop? Microsoft owns Obsidian so the deal whatever it is was made with them. MS and Epic teaming up against Steam? Funny cause just yesterday there was another thread mentioning Steam being a possible monopoly but look who is starting to look more like it now.
Another thing worth mentioning when discussing Epic's lower price as benefiting developer's is that Epic is only offering the lower fee to try to accomplish their goal of defeating Steam. It may very well be a temporary % fee rate. Remember that these guys straight up stole PUBG's idea to make Fortnite and that guy was PAYING them to use their engine. They are also knowingly screwing developers by getting them to agree to "exclusive" deals knowing very well that by not putting their games on Steam it will lose those developers money but they don't care cause they are only doing this for their own gain. Look at how many possible customers this game and Dauntless and M:Exodus are losing by not being on Steam and who loses in that scenario? Not Epic, but the developer they claim to be looking out for by charging that 18% less sale fee. The developer is losing 70% x thousands to save 18%...
You are right about MS owning Obsidian now, but this game's publishing arrangement was done before they were acquired. It is being published by another company so it has nothing to do with MS. There are a couple other incorrect statements in your post as well. PUBG Corp did not pay Epic to use their engine. They used their engine and Epic collected royalties, like they do any other title. There was no special arrangement made here. You can use the Unreal Engine free, right now. You can make a game and sell it without paying a cent until you hit a certain sales figure. At that point, you have to pay them a royalty fee of 5%. They also didn't steal PUBG's idea. Sure, they used a part of the formula, but stealing would imply illegal action. They did no such thing, as you cannot copyright game mechanics.
Not a big fan of exclusives. Kinda wish they’d just sell it wherever people prefer to purchase. It’s not like I’m asking for a Whopper at McDonalds or some shit.
On that same idea though, it's not really an exclusive. We're talking about a store.. not even much of a platform change.
This is asking for a whopper at mcdonalds. If you want a whopper, you just go there and get it.
In my case, both restaurants are about the same distance. I go where the item is that i want, and in this case, people are splitting hairs.
They aren't asking you to buy a new console, they aren't asking you to pay a monthly fee or subscribe to a service.
From day 1 as a gamer, which started decades ago, my simple philosophy was to play the games I want to play no matter where they are. That meant playing zelda on the NES and it meant going to the arcade to play Children of the Atom, or buying a sega dreamcast because I loved Power Stone.
I feel bad that people (not you pale) would prefer not to play something that interests them because it's on a different platform (or a different STORE in this case)
My wife was asking what I was arguing about online and she got invested and this is how I explained it to her as well. That people are acting like they have to buy a brand new console when in reality they just have to download a free launcher.
However, I do understand why people are angry if all they having is a PC and the Epic Games Store doesn't work on it.
I don't think its because games don't work on the Epic Store, the problem is the dodgy spyware, and what they are doing with the information they are gathering. Personally i wouldn't touch Epic Gamestore with a bargepole until its confirmed that they have stopped doing things like that. I don't have access to Windows Store because i don't have Win10, so it looks to me like i will have to go with option 3, never thought i would ever chose PB to supply a game, but it looks like the only 2 options are not buy the game, or not buy the game.
It's funny because I don't have steam for that reason either. When I first got into gaming I looked into steam and they are just as shady. Plus I can't support anyone who allows hate games on there platform without removing them. My gaming library is very limited because of this because I buy off of GOG. People want to act like steam is the greatest but like someone said earlier in this forum that just a year ago steam was in trouble for credit card info leaking.
Also looking into Tencent they own a lot of things now a days. Including Riot Games.
Steam is way less 'nosey' these days, and more consumer friendly, something that Epic Games Store definitely isn't, the number of things that Epic Games store has been found to be doing is just crazy, they have said that they are going to stop doing it, but i will believe that when i see it, however it would be an acceptable alternative if the game was at least available on GOG, afaik they haven't engaged in anything nearly as dodgy.
That's also because GOG is primarily a passion product. It's hard to knock CDPR for anything just because they are the literal embodiment of what every "gamer" imagines a game development studio. A bunch of people, who just wants to make fun games to play; never heading towards drama, or trying to expand to other companies. Even the lawsuit with the author was quickly settled with just because CDPR didn't want to be on bad terms with him. GOG is less of a store and more of a museum (with their own games being the gift shop), where they just took every game that has been lost to time; found the people involved in them in regards to rights, and then make what would otherwise be abandonware available to people again. The only reason that every major publisher is willing to put their games through GOG, is because CDPR has absolutely no intention of competing with anyone. It's also why GOG is never going to "rise up," and challenge steam or epic. They don't want to.
So far I haven't found Epic's business practices to be trustworthy. Granted Value is worse in some ways but I already have that on my computer. Epic will have to earn my trust before I consider them.
Considering what the social media sites, amazon, and basically everyone else on the internet does with our information, I am surprised this even bothers people anymore.
Privacy is no longer a thing and the expectation of is a dream in the digital age.
Note: I do not agree with it but is the world in which we live.
You can do much to get your privacy back...just accepting things and saying privacy is a thing of the past is rather unintelligent. to put it mildly.
It does not even have to be taken really. People freely give it away on social media sites and then complain. It is the state of things and that is a fact.
wow i got an infraction for my harmless opinion, ppl are very sensitive and thank you for reporting me. lol ppl nowadays.
Plot twist: Fortnite is shutting down because nobody wants to use the Epic Store.
I don't hate the Epic Store itself, i hate the number of stores/launchers i need to install to play different games, and the DRM that comes with them. The only store i can say i despised for all reasons was the Games for Windows Live and a lot of games died with it.
I wish all my PC games were on GoG that doesn't need a launcher to run the games, like it was before Steam existed. I could fill my desktop with game icons and not a single store launcher would open to run a game.
Hard to remember games but my hunch was it seemed like a FO spinoff.I wouldn't trust this to be anything more than FO new skin,a boring empty game with some rifles to shoot.
To sum it up best,i feel like Outerworlds is a marketing video and not much more.This is a common trend in studios now though,sequels and repeated templates with new skins,it is real easy and cheap to do it this way,all you need is new art assets,change some voice overs but it still ends up the same gameplay.
Unless i see something REAL concrete and creative beyond grabbing a shotgun and running through streets/corridors,i will chalk this up as not worth a dime but yeah i can change my mind if i see ANYTHING remotely good.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Hard to remember games but my hunch was it seemed like a FO spinoff.I wouldn't trust this to be anything more than FO new skin,a boring empty game with some rifles to shoot.
To sum it up best,i feel like Outerworlds is a marketing video and not much more.This is a common trend in studios now though,sequels and repeated templates with new skins,it is real easy and cheap to do it this way,all you need is new art assets,change some voice overs but it still ends up the same gameplay.
Unless i see something REAL concrete and creative beyond grabbing a shotgun and running through streets/corridors,i will chalk this up as not worth a dime but yeah i can change my mind if i see ANYTHING remotely good.
You knock it off as a FO with a new skin. IMO, the fact that it's developed by Obsidian makes it better than Bethesda's own super duper amazing FO76.
Just my opinion. When the game launches we will see how good it is, but what little i've seen looks pretty damn good so far.
EDIT: edited some wrong info i had, i thought obsidian was made by interplay devs, the original FO devs.
It's like expecting every product on the planet to be sold at every store. It's not how it's done in "the real world" so why should it be done on the virtual one? It's not like the game isn't available on other platforms including the Windows store. If it's that big a deal, wait a year and play it on Steam.
Epic and other game store platforms are providing competition for Steam that people have become so accustomed to using they can't see anything else.
People hate change. This whole thread epitomizes that.
Totally wrong, as long as change does not effect me I love it.
This should be a good thing,i have a foul taste for Steam.However i can also now understand why the owner of Epic "Tim Sweeney" was shouting fou lat Microsoft for trying to control the market through their windows store. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-05-05-tim-sweeney-is-still-mad-at-microsoft I thought he was just being and honest straight forward person acting out against a monopoly attempt,nope he was simply trying to protect his own ideas that were not yet announced.
I surely hope that NOBODY or at least the majority understand that ALL businesses care about themselves and most don't give a rats ass about anyone else.Sweeney is not doing this to create a better market or for us gamer's,he is doing it for Epic games.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Not a big fan of exclusives. Kinda wish they’d just sell it wherever people prefer to purchase. It’s not like I’m asking for a Whopper at McDonalds or some shit.
On that same idea though, it's not really an exclusive. We're talking about a store.. not even much of a platform change.
This is asking for a whopper at mcdonalds. If you want a whopper, you just go there and get it.
In my case, both restaurants are about the same distance. I go where the item is that i want, and in this case, people are splitting hairs.
They aren't asking you to buy a new console, they aren't asking you to pay a monthly fee or subscribe to a service.
From day 1 as a gamer, which started decades ago, my simple philosophy was to play the games I want to play no matter where they are. That meant playing zelda on the NES and it meant going to the arcade to play Children of the Atom, or buying a sega dreamcast because I loved Power Stone.
I feel bad that people (not you pale) would prefer not to play something that interests them because it's on a different platform (or a different STORE in this case)
My wife was asking what I was arguing about online and she got invested and this is how I explained it to her as well. That people are acting like they have to buy a brand new console when in reality they just have to download a free launcher.
However, I do understand why people are angry if all they having is a PC and the Epic Games Store doesn't work on it.
I don't think its because games don't work on the Epic Store, the problem is the dodgy spyware, and what they are doing with the information they are gathering. Personally i wouldn't touch Epic Gamestore with a bargepole until its confirmed that they have stopped doing things like that. I don't have access to Windows Store because i don't have Win10, so it looks to me like i will have to go with option 3, never thought i would ever chose PB to supply a game, but it looks like the only 2 options are not buy the game, or not pay for the game.
Then don’t play it. Don’t be a piece of shit thief just because your tinfoil hat won’t let you progress.
Not a big fan of exclusives. Kinda wish they’d just sell it wherever people prefer to purchase. It’s not like I’m asking for a Whopper at McDonalds or some shit.
On that same idea though, it's not really an exclusive. We're talking about a store.. not even much of a platform change.
This is asking for a whopper at mcdonalds. If you want a whopper, you just go there and get it.
In my case, both restaurants are about the same distance. I go where the item is that i want, and in this case, people are splitting hairs.
They aren't asking you to buy a new console, they aren't asking you to pay a monthly fee or subscribe to a service.
From day 1 as a gamer, which started decades ago, my simple philosophy was to play the games I want to play no matter where they are. That meant playing zelda on the NES and it meant going to the arcade to play Children of the Atom, or buying a sega dreamcast because I loved Power Stone.
I feel bad that people (not you pale) would prefer not to play something that interests them because it's on a different platform (or a different STORE in this case)
My wife was asking what I was arguing about online and she got invested and this is how I explained it to her as well. That people are acting like they have to buy a brand new console when in reality they just have to download a free launcher.
However, I do understand why people are angry if all they having is a PC and the Epic Games Store doesn't work on it.
I don't think its because games don't work on the Epic Store, the problem is the dodgy spyware, and what they are doing with the information they are gathering. Personally i wouldn't touch Epic Gamestore with a bargepole until its confirmed that they have stopped doing things like that. I don't have access to Windows Store because i don't have Win10, so it looks to me like i will have to go with option 3, never thought i would ever chose PB to supply a game, but it looks like the only 2 options are not buy the game, or not pay for the game.
Then don’t play it. Don’t be a piece of shit thief just because your tinfoil hat won’t let you progress.
If you think being concerned about things that are actually happening means i wear a tinfoil hat, then i really don't know what to say to you, as for the rest, personally i blame Obsidian for creating the situation in the first place, simple cause and effect.
Then don’t play it. Don’t be a piece of shit thief just because your tinfoil hat won’t let you progress.
If you think being concerned about things that are actually happening means i wear a tinfoil hat, then i really don't know what to say to you, as for the rest, personally i blame Obsidian for creating the situation in the first place, simple cause and effect.
I wouldn't really blame Obsidian for wanting 88% of the revenue from their game. Right now the problem lies in two places, Epic for being anti competition, and Steam for not matching the revenue to stay competitive.
Then don’t play it. Don’t be a piece of shit thief just because your tinfoil hat won’t let you progress.
If you think being concerned about things that are actually happening means i wear a tinfoil hat, then i really don't know what to say to you, as for the rest, personally i blame Obsidian for creating the situation in the first place, simple cause and effect.
I wouldn't really blame Obsidian for wanting 88% of the revenue from their game. Right now the problem lies in two places, Epic for being anti competition, and Steam for not matching the revenue to stay competitive.
My thoughts.
If the all about the 88% then Discord store offer 90% a bit longer then Epic Store. One thing Discord is not doing that Epic is, the money giving to games to stay with Epic for a year.
Then don’t play it. Don’t be a piece of shit thief just because your tinfoil hat won’t let you progress.
If you think being concerned about things that are actually happening means i wear a tinfoil hat, then i really don't know what to say to you, as for the rest, personally i blame Obsidian for creating the situation in the first place, simple cause and effect.
I wouldn't really blame Obsidian for wanting 88% of the revenue from their game. Right now the problem lies in two places, Epic for being anti competition, and Steam for not matching the revenue to stay competitive.
My thoughts.
If the all about the 88% then Discord store offer 90% a bit longer then Epic Store. One thing Discord is not doing that Epic is, the money giving to games to stay with Epic for a year.
That's not the complete picture though. If you are paying the 8% licensing fee for Unreal Engine (which many game developers use), the 8% Unreal fee counts toward the 12% Epic fee. Meaning that for these developers, the Epic store fee is actually 4%, which is an absolute steal. It is currently the best distribution deal in the industry for Unreal Engine games, minus self-publishing, which carries risks and infrastructure costs of its own.
Then don’t play it. Don’t be a piece of shit thief just because your tinfoil hat won’t let you progress.
If you think being concerned about things that are actually happening means i wear a tinfoil hat, then i really don't know what to say to you, as for the rest, personally i blame Obsidian for creating the situation in the first place, simple cause and effect.
I wouldn't really blame Obsidian for wanting 88% of the revenue from their game. Right now the problem lies in two places, Epic for being anti competition, and Steam for not matching the revenue to stay competitive.
My thoughts.
If the all about the 88% then Discord store offer 90% a bit longer then Epic Store. One thing Discord is not doing that Epic is, the money giving to games to stay with Epic for a year.
That's not the complete picture though. If you are paying the 8% licensing fee for Unreal Engine (which many game developers use), the 8% Unreal fee counts toward the 12% Epic fee. Meaning that for these developers, the Epic store fee is actually 4%, which is an absolute steal. It is currently the best distribution deal in the industry for Unreal Engine games, minus self-publishing, which carries risks and infrastructure costs of its own.
True about the unreal engine fee not around with the epic store, but some of the games that went with Epic store not all base off the unreal engine it self. I'm not sure the real numbers if they are selling much being Epic store only if the -fee and cut is worth it with out Epic dropping money on the games. Then there been some reports games are selling well on Epic store but the way thats been reported can look like really good news but is more to avoid the real truth.
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Some people are concerned with having to download a new launcher. Most peoples concerns are along the lines of "Look at all of the unsecure data floating around and shady things Epic is doing on the side, and now we're running into situations where we may have to input our information into it to play major titles." To make a related example to the store: Normal Store has a product from Company A called "AwesomeProduct W". Company A announces that they are going to be releasing "AwesomeProduct X." Normal Store says that it will have it. But then a new store opens in an alleyway with bright neon signs pointing at it, and a security camera looking dead center on the pin pad for the card swiper. Then Company A announces that "AwesomeProduct X is going to be exclusive to Alleyway Store for a year." That's where a good portion of us are at. At least that's how I feel.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
You are right about MS owning Obsidian now, but this game's publishing arrangement was done before they were acquired. It is being published by another company so it has nothing to do with MS. There are a couple other incorrect statements in your post as well. PUBG Corp did not pay Epic to use their engine. They used their engine and Epic collected royalties, like they do any other title. There was no special arrangement made here. You can use the Unreal Engine free, right now. You can make a game and sell it without paying a cent until you hit a certain sales figure. At that point, you have to pay them a royalty fee of 5%. They also didn't steal PUBG's idea. Sure, they used a part of the formula, but stealing would imply illegal action. They did no such thing, as you cannot copyright game mechanics.
I don't hate the Epic Store itself, i hate the number of stores/launchers i need to install to play different games, and the DRM that comes with them. The only store i can say i despised for all reasons was the Games for Windows Live and a lot of games died with it.
I wish all my PC games were on GoG that doesn't need a launcher to run the games, like it was before Steam existed. I could fill my desktop with game icons and not a single store launcher would open to run a game.
To sum it up best,i feel like Outerworlds is a marketing video and not much more.This is a common trend in studios now though,sequels and repeated templates with new skins,it is real easy and cheap to do it this way,all you need is new art assets,change some voice overs but it still ends up the same gameplay.
Unless i see something REAL concrete and creative beyond grabbing a shotgun and running through streets/corridors,i will chalk this up as not worth a dime but yeah i can change my mind if i see ANYTHING remotely good.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Just my opinion. When the game launches we will see how good it is, but what little i've seen looks pretty damn good so far.
EDIT: edited some wrong info i had, i thought obsidian was made by interplay devs, the original FO devs.
Totally wrong, as long as change does not effect me I love it.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-05-05-tim-sweeney-is-still-mad-at-microsoft
I thought he was just being and honest straight forward person acting out against a monopoly attempt,nope he was simply trying to protect his own ideas that were not yet announced.
Then fast forward and i see someone other than myself pays attention and wrote several articles in 2019.Tim Sweeney tries to defend himself on twitter.https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1091022275476889605
I surely hope that NOBODY or at least the majority understand that ALL businesses care about themselves and most don't give a rats ass about anyone else.Sweeney is not doing this to create a better market or for us gamer's,he is doing it for Epic games.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
My thoughts.