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What We Know So Far About Borderlands 3

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited April 2019 in News & Features Discussion

imageWhat We Know So Far About Borderlands 3

It’s been a long time, but Gearbox finally took the wraps off Borderlands 3 at this year’s PAX East and boy did it look awesome. And as awesome as it did look, the presentation was unfortunately scant on details. Fast forward a couple of days later and we’ve learned quite a bit more about the newest entry in the series, with details on characters, weapons, platforms and more. Let’s recap.

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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319
    edited April 2019
    Always preferred Maliwan and Jakobs. Of course, finding a Maliwan pistol with a Vladoff (oops, originally said Dahl) barrel? Sweetness!

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    I'll probably play Zane. 
  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319

    Aeander said:

    I'll probably play Zane. 



    Will probably try out Fl4k first. None are jumping out at me like my gunzerker did.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061

    Aeander said:

    I'll probably play Zane. 



    Will probably try out Fl4k first. None are jumping out at me like my gunzerker did.
    I like Fl4k as well. There's usually only one character in these games that I like the design of. (Mordecai in 1. Zero in 2.)
  • foppoteefoppotee Member RarePosts: 537
    Won't be playing till the Epic exclusivity is over. I'm not totally faulting their "distance approach" towards Steam for Steam's previous interactions with developers, but that Epic store has problems & this whole "we're aware & working on it" line has been done too much & not fullfilled. So I'll await & then maybe I'll buy or maybe I won't. No more paying to beta test games.
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  • IlayaIlaya Member UncommonPosts: 661
    I'll jump on that "Coinflip" Train :) Can't say which one first tbh.
  • Spriggen1337Spriggen1337 Member UncommonPosts: 276
    How can hyperion be a item sponser/brand in BL3 if jack was taken down in BL2 and he owned hyperion (plus they junk weapons).
    Vault hunters should have standards jack tried to destroy them utterly destroy them!
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Instanced loot at last. Praise Marcus.
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  • SiveriaSiveria Member UncommonPosts: 1,421
    edited April 2019
    Not a fan of the new siren, looks like a overly butch chick. To be frank I find her kinda fugly compared to the previous sirens.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    Siveria said:
    Not a fan of the new siren, looks like a overly butch chick. To be frank I find her kinda fugly compared to the previous sirens.
    Both of the new chicks are fugly. 
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  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534
    edited April 2019

    Siveria said:

    Not a fan of the new siren, looks like a overly butch chick. To be frank I find her kinda fugly compared to the previous sirens.



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  • blbetablbeta Member UncommonPosts: 144
    Only two concerns with Epic. As far as I have seen there is no cloud saves. That would mean you are responsible to backup your saves.

    Multiplayer joining games. Is it going to work with players on Steam or other places. I really don't want PC players fragmented.
  • SeelinnikoiSeelinnikoi Member RarePosts: 1,360
    It all makes sense now... all that cash grab and cow milking from Battleborn was to fund this.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    blbeta said:
    Only two concerns with Epic. As far as I have seen there is no cloud saves. That would mean you are responsible to backup your saves.

    Multiplayer joining games. Is it going to work with players on Steam or other places. I really don't want PC players fragmented.
    Cloud saves are currently scheduled to he added to Epic Store in May, meaning they'll be there for B3 release even with moderate delays.

    Not sure about cross-launcher compatibility in multiplayer, but I don't think it's ever been an issue between launchers in the past.
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  • Cyber_wastelandCyber_wasteland Member UncommonPosts: 192
    Awesome on the instanced loot! Real shame its going on epics store for a year or more before going on steam. I refuse to use multiple launchers more then I am already so its a REALLY sad, sad pass from me. Just pretend BL3 and Metro Exodus are getting a 2020 release date instead of 2019.
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  • LililuneLililune Member UncommonPosts: 81
    edited April 2019
    I'll buy Rage 2 on Steam and buy Borderlands 3 in 2020 ,no problem ^^
    Epic Store need more polish...
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Rhoklaw said:
    When you're an Epic Store exclusive for 6 months, it's a telltale sign that Epic Store doesn't have it's teeth deep enough into to STEAM to get a killing blow. I think developers are now understanding that customers are done being pushed around and forced to do things they don't want to, for the sake of more greed on the developers / publishers part.

    I'm not supporting Epic at the moment because it's a shell of a gaming platform. STEAM does everything better so I will continue to support that. Epic does literally nothing for the "gamer" but instead leaches on to developers with discounts on royalties in hopes that exclusive titles will force players over with no benefits to them whatsoever.
    If, at the end of the year, Epic hasn't made good on the plans they've very clearly laid out, you'd be right.

    The exclusives are to build an install base.  Nobody, including Sweeney, disputes that.  It's a good business move.  It is in no way an indicator of a struggling Epic Store- it's been the tactic since Epic released the store.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Rhoklaw said:



    My point is. What benefits does Epic Store offer gamers? It only matches what STEAM offers. There is literally no incentive to use it other than the fact they are shelling out big bucks for exclusives in order to draw people away from an already superior platform. IF Epic offered gamers access to all the games they already own on STEAM, then THAT would be a killing blow to STEAM. Having multiple launchers is not something any gamer wants, especially when trying to play with friends. That is the hurdle Epic Store has to overcome. So that is what they should be focused on.
    "Having multiple launchers is not something any gamer wants"

    Good thing I don't consider myself a gamer!

    Look, clearly Steam has things that Epic doesn't as far as functionality. I personally don't care about any of those things. Seriously, it's sort of fun to see how many hours I've played a game but it's not a selling point. I tend not to use their "curated" lists though it's sometimes fun to go through a few.

    I don't have any close friends who "game" regularly and who would be on Steam. So I don't need a friend's list and if I wanted to contact a friend I'd have their contact info.

    What Epic did have was Ashen and Operencia, two games I wanted to play. So I bought them. d

    They update them and I can play them. Done deal.

    All I want from a platform is to find games I want to play them and play them. I'd rather buy a disk and have a hard copy of the game but that's not how things are done anymore so here I am.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited April 2019
    Rhoklaw said:



    Rhoklaw said:

    When you're an Epic Store exclusive for 6 months, it's a telltale sign that Epic Store doesn't have it's teeth deep enough into to STEAM to get a killing blow. I think developers are now understanding that customers are done being pushed around and forced to do things they don't want to, for the sake of more greed on the developers / publishers part.



    I'm not supporting Epic at the moment because it's a shell of a gaming platform. STEAM does everything better so I will continue to support that. Epic does literally nothing for the "gamer" but instead leaches on to developers with discounts on royalties in hopes that exclusive titles will force players over with no benefits to them whatsoever.


    If, at the end of the year, Epic hasn't made good on the plans they've very clearly laid out, you'd be right.

    The exclusives are to build an install base.  Nobody, including Sweeney, disputes that.  It's a good business move.  It is in no way an indicator of a struggling Epic Store- it's been the tactic since Epic released the store.



    My point is. What benefits does Epic Store offer gamers? It only matches what STEAM offers. There is literally no incentive to use it other than the fact they are shelling out big bucks for exclusives in order to draw people away from an already superior platform. IF Epic offered gamers access to all the games they already own on STEAM, then THAT would be a killing blow to STEAM. Having multiple launchers is not something any gamer wants, especially when trying to play with friends. That is the hurdle Epic Store has to overcome. So that is what they should be focused on.
    No, it wouldn't be a killing blow.  What the hell would be the point of downloading another launcher to play games you have on a launcher you already have installed?

    You wouldn't.  You would make jokes about how dumb Epic is for trying to steal Steam's users while providing you with nothing you can't get directly from Steam.  So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam, and folks are pissed about that because in the end: you just wanna use Steam, end of story.
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  • Cyber_wastelandCyber_wasteland Member UncommonPosts: 192
    edited April 2019
    Rhoklaw said:



    Rhoklaw said:

    When you're an Epic Store exclusive for 6 months, it's a telltale sign that Epic Store doesn't have it's teeth deep enough into to STEAM to get a killing blow. I think developers are now understanding that customers are done being pushed around and forced to do things they don't want to, for the sake of more greed on the developers / publishers part.



    I'm not supporting Epic at the moment because it's a shell of a gaming platform. STEAM does everything better so I will continue to support that. Epic does literally nothing for the "gamer" but instead leaches on to developers with discounts on royalties in hopes that exclusive titles will force players over with no benefits to them whatsoever.


    If, at the end of the year, Epic hasn't made good on the plans they've very clearly laid out, you'd be right.

    The exclusives are to build an install base.  Nobody, including Sweeney, disputes that.  It's a good business move.  It is in no way an indicator of a struggling Epic Store- it's been the tactic since Epic released the store.



    My point is. What benefits does Epic Store offer gamers? It only matches what STEAM offers. There is literally no incentive to use it other than the fact they are shelling out big bucks for exclusives in order to draw people away from an already superior platform. IF Epic offered gamers access to all the games they already own on STEAM, then THAT would be a killing blow to STEAM. Having multiple launchers is not something any gamer wants, especially when trying to play with friends. That is the hurdle Epic Store has to overcome. So that is what they should be focused on.
    No, it wouldn't be a killing blow.  What the hell would be the point of downloading another launcher to play games you have on a launcher you already have installed?

    You wouldn't.  You would make jokes about how dumb Epic is for trying to steal Steam's users while providing you with nothing you can't get directly from Steam.  So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam, and folks are pissed about that because in the end: you just wanna use Steam, end of story.
    The people that prefer steam over anything else have already stated why they don't want to leave steam, not sure why this is hard to understand.

    There are good points steam users are making Rhoklaw has made some of these points. "So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam" exactly you are right, people are getting strong armed from Epic's Fortnite money, that is the ONLY thing they had going for them. I have put thousand+ dollars in to my steam account over the 10 years I have owned it, not going to just up and walk away from, and they are trying to steal users by doing what? "So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam"   <-------- Oh that. 

    No one was forcing anyone to use steam, but since they have been around since 2004 and I like many others have put so much time and effort in to there accounts and the community's, the workshop content, the everything that is steam. There are reasons people don't want to leave it. Still not being forced, as I have to use battle.net to play D2 or SC2, Origin for Deadspace 3, Mass Effect 3, Apex, Uplay for there games and the point on that being to many launchers. If people get enjoyment out of the Epic store/ don't care what launcher you use then good I am glad you have the ability and the power to accept why you are using that store, as well as being OK with having multiple launchers installed at once to play said handful of games then I am happy for you.  It's an argument that is now starting to get tiring and has turned PC gaming in to "console wars" 

    So all in all, yes. I do just wanna use Steam, end of story.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited April 2019
    Rhoklaw said:



    Rhoklaw said:

    When you're an Epic Store exclusive for 6 months, it's a telltale sign that Epic Store doesn't have it's teeth deep enough into to STEAM to get a killing blow. I think developers are now understanding that customers are done being pushed around and forced to do things they don't want to, for the sake of more greed on the developers / publishers part.



    I'm not supporting Epic at the moment because it's a shell of a gaming platform. STEAM does everything better so I will continue to support that. Epic does literally nothing for the "gamer" but instead leaches on to developers with discounts on royalties in hopes that exclusive titles will force players over with no benefits to them whatsoever.


    If, at the end of the year, Epic hasn't made good on the plans they've very clearly laid out, you'd be right.

    The exclusives are to build an install base.  Nobody, including Sweeney, disputes that.  It's a good business move.  It is in no way an indicator of a struggling Epic Store- it's been the tactic since Epic released the store.



    My point is. What benefits does Epic Store offer gamers? It only matches what STEAM offers. There is literally no incentive to use it other than the fact they are shelling out big bucks for exclusives in order to draw people away from an already superior platform. IF Epic offered gamers access to all the games they already own on STEAM, then THAT would be a killing blow to STEAM. Having multiple launchers is not something any gamer wants, especially when trying to play with friends. That is the hurdle Epic Store has to overcome. So that is what they should be focused on.
    No, it wouldn't be a killing blow.  What the hell would be the point of downloading another launcher to play games you have on a launcher you already have installed?

    You wouldn't.  You would make jokes about how dumb Epic is for trying to steal Steam's users while providing you with nothing you can't get directly from Steam.  So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam, and folks are pissed about that because in the end: you just wanna use Steam, end of story.
    The people that prefer steam over anything else have already stated why they don't want to leave steam, not sure why this is hard to understand.

    There are good points steam users are making Rhoklaw has made some of these points. "So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam" exactly you are right, people are getting strong armed from Epic's Fortnite money, that is the ONLY thing they had going for them. I have put thousand+ dollars in to my steam account over the 10 years I have owned it, not going to just up and walk away from, and they are trying to steal users by doing what? "So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam"   <-------- Oh that. 

    No one was forcing anyone to use steam, but since they have been around since 2004 and I like many others have put so much time and effort in to there accounts and the community's, the workshop content, the everything that is steam. There are reasons people don't want to leave it. If people get enjoyment out of the Epic store/ don't care what launcher you use then good I am glad you have the ability and the power to accept why you are using that store, as well as being OK with having multiple launchers installed at once to play said handful of games then I am happy for you.  It's an argument that is now starting to get tiring and has turned PC gaming in to "console wars" 

    So all in all, yes. I do just wanna use Steam, end of story.
    Cool story.  It also means you made yourself irrelevant to Epic's business decision.


    "You mean, no matter what choices we make, this group of gamers will refuse to use our store because of an emotional attachment to Steam?"

    "Yes."


    "Then let's move on.   In that case, they're irrelevant to our business plans."


    I'm okay with your emotional attachment, so long as you don't piss and moan about things like temporary exclusives you won't get to experience until months later, all due to your emotional attachment to a digital storefront.  You take the bad with the good, right?

    EDIT- it's also disingenuous to claim this is the equivalent to console wars.  Epic's storefront costs you exactly nothing; you don't pay for the software, and (save for a very small percentage of users who use Linux) it doesn't require you to purchase any other hardware or software.  Not at all the same.
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  • Cyber_wastelandCyber_wasteland Member UncommonPosts: 192
    edited April 2019
    Rhoklaw said:



    Rhoklaw said:

    When you're an Epic Store exclusive for 6 months, it's a telltale sign that Epic Store doesn't have it's teeth deep enough into to STEAM to get a killing blow. I think developers are now understanding that customers are done being pushed around and forced to do things they don't want to, for the sake of more greed on the developers / publishers part.



    I'm not supporting Epic at the moment because it's a shell of a gaming platform. STEAM does everything better so I will continue to support that. Epic does literally nothing for the "gamer" but instead leaches on to developers with discounts on royalties in hopes that exclusive titles will force players over with no benefits to them whatsoever.


    If, at the end of the year, Epic hasn't made good on the plans they've very clearly laid out, you'd be right.

    The exclusives are to build an install base.  Nobody, including Sweeney, disputes that.  It's a good business move.  It is in no way an indicator of a struggling Epic Store- it's been the tactic since Epic released the store.



    My point is. What benefits does Epic Store offer gamers? It only matches what STEAM offers. There is literally no incentive to use it other than the fact they are shelling out big bucks for exclusives in order to draw people away from an already superior platform. IF Epic offered gamers access to all the games they already own on STEAM, then THAT would be a killing blow to STEAM. Having multiple launchers is not something any gamer wants, especially when trying to play with friends. That is the hurdle Epic Store has to overcome. So that is what they should be focused on.
    No, it wouldn't be a killing blow.  What the hell would be the point of downloading another launcher to play games you have on a launcher you already have installed?

    You wouldn't.  You would make jokes about how dumb Epic is for trying to steal Steam's users while providing you with nothing you can't get directly from Steam.  So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam, and folks are pissed about that because in the end: you just wanna use Steam, end of story.
    The people that prefer steam over anything else have already stated why they don't want to leave steam, not sure why this is hard to understand.

    There are good points steam users are making Rhoklaw has made some of these points. "So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam" exactly you are right, people are getting strong armed from Epic's Fortnite money, that is the ONLY thing they had going for them. I have put thousand+ dollars in to my steam account over the 10 years I have owned it, not going to just up and walk away from, and they are trying to steal users by doing what? "So, Epic made sure they have things you can't get directly from Steam"   <-------- Oh that. 

    No one was forcing anyone to use steam, but since they have been around since 2004 and I like many others have put so much time and effort in to there accounts and the community's, the workshop content, the everything that is steam. There are reasons people don't want to leave it. If people get enjoyment out of the Epic store/ don't care what launcher you use then good I am glad you have the ability and the power to accept why you are using that store, as well as being OK with having multiple launchers installed at once to play said handful of games then I am happy for you.  It's an argument that is now starting to get tiring and has turned PC gaming in to "console wars" 

    So all in all, yes. I do just wanna use Steam, end of story.
    Cool story.  It also means you made yourself irrelevant to Epic's business decision.


    "You mean, no matter what choices we make, this group of gamers will refuse to use our store because of an emotional attachment to Steam?"

    "Yes."


    "Then let's move on.   In that case, they're irrelevant to our business plans."


    I'm okay with your emotional attachment, so long as you don't piss and moan about things like temporary exclusives you won't get to experience until months later, all due to your emotional attachment to a digital storefront.  You take the bad with the good, right?

    EDIT- it's also disingenuous to claim this is the equivalent to console wars.  Epic's storefront costs you exactly nothing; you don't pay for the software, and (save for a very small percentage of users who use Linux) it doesn't require you to purchase any other hardware or software.  Not at all the same.






    In terms of arguing over what is used and why it should be used it is one in the same, and as long as it does end up on steam then at the end of the day I will get over it. 

    What annoys me is the business practice, and how its being done. (think to many things are being quoted) 

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited April 2019
    It doesn't annoy me, because I understand why Epic is doing it, they haven't attempted to build a permanent exclusive library, and the company has already clearly stated it's a temporary strategy to build an install base.

    Couple that with the additional revenue the devs get to keep and a more focused selection of titles, and I'm on board.

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  • Cyber_wastelandCyber_wasteland Member UncommonPosts: 192
    It doesn't annoy me, because I understand why Epic is doing it, they haven't attempted to build a permanent exclusive library, and the company has already clearly stated it's a temporary strategy to build an install base.

    Couple that with the additional revenue the devs get to keep, and I'm on board.

    And a good strategy it is, never said it was not. I also understand that Steam is not the victim, they charge to much for things to be on there store and if what is going on changes that then I will be happy. Because the devs that do put there heart and soul in to the game deserve there earned profit. 

    It will still be inconvenience for me that I have to wait for this shit to be over for the games to hit steam. Like I said once before on a different artical I will just pretend these games are getting a 2020 release date instead of a 2019 release date. The only game that is on Epic store that disgusts me is Metro because they ripped it off of steam last minute after people waited for it to be released, for the ones that waited for it to finally come out and don't like to pre order find out they are SOL was slightly unfair. 

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